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AndyOpie150
PostPosted: Thu 30 May 2013, 23:44    Post subject:

I'll double check the CD first chance I get. It should be right there with Pdisk. I sure didn't see it before.

I need the JDK (Java Development Kit), not just the JRE (Java Runtime Environment). This I downloaded straight from Oracle's web site and need to convert to a Squashfs file.
It's path to the java.exe I need to set up in the bash/bashrc file?
I just used the Windows speak to try the best I could to communicate what I needed to acomplish.

From there the Android SDK and APK-Multi-Tool (which is placed in a folder in the SDK) are sort of stand alone programs.
Setting up the adb.exe globally just makes things easier on me later on.
R-S-H
PostPosted: Thu 30 May 2013, 20:20    Post subject:

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I want to try this version running from USB so I downloaded the distro, burned a CD and booted up using the CD.
I did the install to a USB drive and upon rebooting it goes into an endless loop with :


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Hetejas: I had the same problem.

Ok, you are the only two users who posted this issue. I will check this, burning a CD, booting from CD and trying to install from CD. I don't have a CD drive at my home computer, so I could only test this by booting/installing from USB. Must do this on another location, which might take some days.

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It doesn't have Gparted so I went to the repo/single files and downloaded from there.


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You might be using a different version than mine.
I have GPARTED and no FAVORITES folder.

Yes, GParted should be installed, since it is in the original Lucid and I didn't remove this. It should be somewhere in a sub-menu of menu workstation. Everything from Desktop, Setup and System in other puppies you'll find in menu workstation and its sub-menus in LazY Puppy.

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This is the best Puppy out there, once you get used to the concept.

Yes, it is different to other puppies.

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with 3.9GB total size for the save file being the most.

Yes, this is because of the FAT32 filesystem used on USB flash.

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I noticed you forgot to post the Java jdk_6u45 in an sfs form?

No, I did not forget. I did just give this a go but did not upload a file. Usually I do use the JAVA files from forum system to make LazY Puppy SFS files from.

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I have the Java jdk_6u45 downloaded put haven't figured out the best way to convert a Squashfs file, to many different tutorials out there.

You downloaded the jre-1.6u45-i586.sfs?

Just rename it to LP2_jre-1.6u45-i586.sfs, do a right-click onto it and choose Convert to LazY Puppy. The rest is self-explaining while doing. No need to add SFS dependencies.

You downloaded the jre-1.6u45-i586.pet?

Do a right click onto it (don't rename) and choose SFS-Installer.

You can use this SFS file as dependency on other SFS files that might need JAVA by doing a right-click onto such SFS file and choosing Add Dependencies. When running the Program from such SFS by a created RunScript, the JAVA will load automatically. RunScript? Do a right-click onto SFS ... ... ...

Forget the tutorials out there. Just do a right-click on a file and/or directory and look for its offered options. Will mostly do the job - except for some of your very special needs.

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And how to set the "Class Path" to the java.exe in LazyPuppy. I would still like to at least get the Android SDK and APK-Multi-Tool up and running.

Sorry, but I don't know this. The JAVA developer should know this. I think this is equal or similar in puppies.

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Yet another reason to like LazY Puppy.

Thanks. I think you'll find some more - from time to time.
AndyOpie150
PostPosted: Mon 27 May 2013, 20:51    Post subject:

No. I'm using my phone as a hotspot.
I'm using 2.0.2 Final which only has Pdisk.
Favorites is a desktop page. On the bar in the upper part of the desktop you will see a Star. That's for the favorite page. I'm sure Quick-SFS is in the menu as well.
I loaded all the SFS from there and then unloaded. This gave me a huge selection of programs in the menu.
Hetejas
PostPosted: Mon 27 May 2013, 08:20    Post subject:

Thanks Andy.
You might be using a different version than mine.
I have GPARTED and no FAVORITES folder.

Did I read you correctly in that you are using Lazy Puppy as a hotspot ?
AndyOpie150
PostPosted: Sun 26 May 2013, 21:02    Post subject:

Hetejas: I had the same problem. Use the Universal Installer found in the PET Install program. The Icon is in the favorites page on the desktop.
This is the best Puppy out there, once you get used to the concept. I just have 6 of the most important SFS files loaded (you can add more just read all post from where I start asking R-S-H questions, he mentions a script to use). I have all of the SFS files from the "Quick-SFS" program in the same directory of my Flash Drive where the StArtLPx2.202.sfs is. Which is where you put the other files.
It doesn't have Gparted so I went to the repo/single files and downloaded from there.
In the Utility section there is a program called "Resize personal storage file". When your save file starts to get full you can add more space. 2048MB being the most at one time, with 3.9GB total size for the save file being the most.


R-S-H: I did find an FBReader 0.12.10 that works, here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=32056
Still hoping for some indication on the best Calibre as FBReader sucks.

I noticed you forgot to post the Java jdk_6u45 in an sfs form? I have the Java jdk_6u45 downloaded put haven't figured out the best way to convert a Squashfs file, to many different tutorials out there. Could you post a link to a decent one? And how to set the "Class Path" to the java.exe in LazyPuppy. I would still like to at least get the Android SDK and APK-Multi-Tool up and running.

EDIT: Wow! I just noticed my phone is still at 100% charge will using the hotspot feature for over 2 hours. I've been using LazY Puppy the whole time.

I usually use the power from the computer via the USB cord (with it draped around the front of the computer) because this setup seem to help pull in the week signal from the tower better, but it usually means the battery will drain slowly as the power from the computer is not sufficient to keep it fully charged when using my Xubuntu distro.
Yet another reason to like LazY Puppy.
Hetejas
PostPosted: Sun 26 May 2013, 14:15    Post subject: Lazy puppy problem or

Operator error ?

I want to try this version running from USB so I downloaded the distro, burned a CD and booted up using the CD.
I did the install to a USB drive and upon rebooting it goes into an endless loop with :
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boot:
Could not find kernel image: vmlinuz

etc
etc

Oh yeah, I also copied the .ISO file to the USB drive hoping for miracles.
What do I do now ?

thanks

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It seems that I have solved my problem. After some reading I copied these files from the CD to the USB drive and now it boots.
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boot.cat
boot.msg
help1.msg
help2.msg
help3.msg
help4.msg
help5.msg
initrd.gz
isolinux.bin
isolinux.cfg
logo.16
StArtLPx2_202.sfs
vmlinuz
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That seems somewhat cumbersome for a new user.
I will continue to poke around and see what turns up.
FWIW, it is very handsome Very Happy
R-S-H
PostPosted: Sat 25 May 2013, 19:57    Post subject:

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Thanks. Sometimes I have a tendency to over think things.

Never mind. We all do have our limitations. Hopefully we will not enter new ones each and every day for the rest of our lives! Laughing

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That did the job.
Now all I have to do is search thru the files of the program to find the icon so I can make a shortcut/run script and have the proper icon to represent it.
Thanks again.

Good luck and have fun using LazY Puppy. Smile
AndyOpie150
PostPosted: Sat 25 May 2013, 19:50    Post subject:

That did the job.
Now all I have to do is search thru the files of the program to find the icon so I can make a shortcut/run script and have the proper icon to represent it.
Thanks again.
AndyOpie150
PostPosted: Sat 25 May 2013, 14:43    Post subject:

Thanks. Sometimes I have a tendency to over think things.
R-S-H
PostPosted: Fri 24 May 2013, 22:21    Post subject:

Hi.

If you have the LP2_Wine.sfs already loaded usually a single left click onto a .exe file will install the Program in Wine.

No need to use a right-click option.

When wine is loaded there is a mime-type definition set (loaded) that will send .exe files automatically to be executed with a command like: wine XourExeToInstall.

The same way it works with PortableApps applications in wine. There is a prepared PortableApplications.tar.gz file at my repository at smokey 01.com/RSH/. You can run portable applications frokm the PortableApps Starter or directly from its directory.
AndyOpie150
PostPosted: Thu 23 May 2013, 09:57    Post subject:

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I'll send a PM to you later and attach a prepared 'initrd.gz'. This will reduce the work for you to do manually.
Thanks. I seem to be a little slower at catching on to things than I did when I was younger.


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Try to download, load and use applications from SFS files by using the menu entries. It's not needed to load SFS files manually by sfs_load application.
Gotcha. At first I needed to use phone to download the SFS files then transfer to SD card so I thought I had to do it for those. Now my network is doing better so I can download from computer via 3G from phone.

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There are some SFS files on the repository at smokey01.com/RSH/, that are still installed in LazY Puppy 2.0.2-005. These SFS files (like GParted, Abiword, Gnumeric, and lots of others) are extracted from LazY Puppy to make users able to build out these applications from their LazY Puppy. So, if you would load f.e. the LP2_GParted-0.8.0.sfs, then it would have no effect, except unnecessary using RAM, because it is (I think Laughing ) still in the OS.
Gotcha

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If you want to know how to build out applications in a more or less secure way, let me know. But please, get familiar with LazY Puppy and its concept first.
Absolutely. Using every day, so getting used to it shouldn't take long (I've quit using my Xubuntu distro).

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Ok, have fun.
Been having fun since I first downloaded and burned the LazY Puppy .iso to a CD. I love mental challenges and learning new things.



One last question I need to ask (at least for a little while): How do you install a program from a CD in this version of Wine (newest version in Xubuntu I just right clicked the CD drive Icon when it appeared and selected to install with Wine)?





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Currently working on my V.S.P.-LazY-Puppy Builder. Did made a LazY Precise based on Precise 5.6 and my private Version 3.0.0 of LazY Puppy. Build in 17 Minutes, fine adjustment in around 2 hours (because there are lots of new definitions for menu categories in precise). GIMP 2.8.4 executed by SFS P.L.U.S. RunScript, SFS build from .pet files using the SFS P.L.U.S. tools. But: currently everything only in German language!
I'm very interested indeed.


4 years ago I bought my first computer (surfed the web and watched old shows and movies). Two years ago I bought my first smart phone, which is when I started to mess around with rooting it and installing a custom recovery and ROM.
Now I can take any ROM from any phone with the same screen density and get it to work on my phone (working on developing kernels and apps from an OS installed onto my SD card which is how I got here in the first place).

Last August I installed my first Linux Distro. Puppy Slacko was installed to a micro SD card not long after.

The only thing that slows me down is the lack of any technical training or experience in the computer field.

Edit: Got the save file up to 3.9GB with a utility program thats already installed. Tried opening up the CD disc and right clicking on the .exe, but no option to install with Wine. Tried the install program from CD in the Wine menu, still no install.
R-S-H
PostPosted: Thu 23 May 2013, 02:15    Post subject:

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I've really started to get it! Cool! I like it!

Cool, I'm glad to read so!

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This is the only puppy for me.

Yes, for me too!

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Now if i can just wrap my brain around getting more persistence/user storage in the manner you mentioned. I just have to read it a few more times till it soaks in then give it a try (brain still a little foggy).

I'll send a PM to you later and attach a prepared 'initrd.gz'. This will reduce the work for you to do manually.

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After I loaded all the large/multi app sfs's and then unloaded I now have a ton of options. I loaded a few internet apps, Audacious, Gparted, and Geany (6 total) i realized I didn't need all the others installed at boot, just when i need them ( I really appreciate this concept). Will keep in mind your advice on how to workaround the: only loading 6 sfs files at boot, if I actually get stupid again and feel I need more to load at boot.

Try to download, load and use applications from SFS files by using the menu entries. It's not needed to load SFS files manually by sfs_load application.

There are some SFS files on the repository at smokey01.com/RSH/, that are still installed in LazY Puppy 2.0.2-005. These SFS files (like GParted, Abiword, Gnumeric, and lots of others) are extracted from LazY Puppy to make users able to build out these applications from their LazY Puppy. So, if you would load f.e. the LP2_GParted-0.8.0.sfs, then it would have no effect, except unnecessary using RAM, because it is (I think Laughing ) still in the OS.

If you want to know how to build out applications in a more or less secure way, let me know. But please, get familiar with LazY Puppy and its concept first.

Ok, have fun.

RSH

P.S.

Currently working on my V.S.P.-LazY-Puppy Builder. Did made a LazY Precise based on Precise 5.6 and my private Version 3.0.0 of LazY Puppy. Build in 17 Minutes, fine adjustment in around 2 hours (because there are lots of new definitions for menu categories in precise). GIMP 2.8.4 executed by SFS P.L.U.S. RunScript, SFS build from .pet files using the SFS P.L.U.S. tools. But: currently everything only in German language!
AndyOpie150
PostPosted: Wed 22 May 2013, 23:13    Post subject:

I've really started to get it! Cool! I like it!
This is the only puppy for me.

Now if i can just wrap my brain around getting more persistence/user storage in the manner you mentioned. I just have to read it a few more times till it soaks in then give it a try (brain still a little foggy).

Thanks for all the help so far.

After I loaded all the large/multi app sfs's and then unloaded I now have a ton of options. I loaded a few internet apps, Audacious, Gparted, and Geany (6 total) i realized I didn't need all the others installed at boot, just when i need them ( I really appreciate this concept). Will keep in mind your advice on how to workaround the: only loading 6 sfs files at boot, if I actually get stupid again and feel I need more to load at boot.
AndyOpie150
PostPosted: Mon 20 May 2013, 21:34    Post subject:

Need to take a break for a couple of days. Sjogren Syndrome is bad today. Brain not working to good.
Here is a screen shot though:
R-S-H
PostPosted: Sat 18 May 2013, 23:54    Post subject:

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Did you mention how to extract the contents of the save file?

Just Drag'n'Drop the files from save file to ext partition

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Create an empty file at save file location (f.e. StartLPx2_Empty.2fs (or.3fs) by right-click into the rox filer window. After rebooting LazY Puppy will present option to choose which save file to use (because it now thinks there are two save files).

Enter '0' to not to use a save file.

When booted to desktop open directory of save file and do a left click onto the save file (a rox filer window will open). Now you should be able to copy your wanted files and directories to the ext3 partition.
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