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keniv
PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec 2012, 18:09    Post subject:

Hi RHS

Good news. I installed you pet to Lazy on my flash drive and shutdown is now working. I have done a little bit of testing. I get the gui whether I select shutdown from wbar, tray or menu. All options shut the machine down. I have also tried the 10 sec count down and "now" and both work. I get the save and don't save options. Obviously after installing the pet I chose save and shutdown occurred with save. I have tried with no save and this works as well. I have now done a number of boots and shutdowns and it has worked every time. In trying to get shutdown to work I made a number of save files of different sizes and both ext2 and ext3. Your pet also works on these. I have also tried the timed shutdown. This always worked and still works. If you want me to try anything else please let me know. I should have said earlier that I had already installed your update pet. Thanks again for your time, help and the pet.

Regards,

Ken.
RSH
PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec 2012, 16:00    Post subject:

Hi, Ken.

Thanks for the last post. Did help a lot to locate the bug.

Installing the attached .pet should fix this. Please, report the result.

Thanks

RSH
keniv
PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:53    Post subject:

Hi RHS

I looked at wbar config. This gave me the path to the file executed when the wbar shutdown button is clicked on. The path is /usr/sbin/ceelab/shutdown-pc/shutdown-pc. If I run shutdown-pc in a terminal it brings up the shutdown gui on the version of lazy on my hd (shutdown works properly on this one). However if I do the same on the version of lazy on the flash drive booting with grub4dos the shutdown gui does not appear and I get the attached error. I hope this helps.

Regards,

Ken.
keniv
PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec 2012, 16:20    Post subject:

Hi RHS

Thanks for taking all this trouble. I have attached two images of the desktop as I thought the information panel might count as a "program opened" and so one image shows this and the other does not. Hope this helps.

Regards,

Ken.
Jasper
PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec 2012, 15:46    Post subject:

Hi 8-bit,

Try loading your games using seaside's SFStray and Libre-
Office by right clicking using shinobar's SFS loader. Then,
as I wrote before, right click again to unload it, though with
4GB of RAM you may never need or wish to do that.

My regards

PS How does your poll recommendation look?
8-bit
PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec 2012, 15:15    Post subject:

Your poll is not covering all options!
If for instance I was loading the libreoffice sfs, I would want it unloaded on exiting. Although with it being a multipart application, the initial menu calling one of the parts might close that menu and and as a result, unload the SFS.
For a game, the auto-unload on exiting the game would be nice.
So to be safe, I would say no auto-unload of the SFS.
I did not take the Poll because it does not clarify enough.
RSH
PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec 2012, 11:36    Post subject:

Quote:
I do not get the shutdown GUI by clicking on the wbar button, tray button or the menu shutdown. Nothing happens when I click on any of the above. The timed shutdown does work and during shutdown with this I am given the option to shutdown with saving to save file or to shutdown without saving to save file.

OK. I can not see any reason for this, because it seems to work from hd and I do use generally USB Stick, which works for me each and every time.

But I do not use grub4dos to boot from USB Stick. I do remember of some issues using grub4dos to boot from USB Stick, in the German forum, some weeks ago.

I will search for this post and checking everything using LazY Puppy and English Desktop. Must do this at home, because I do not have LazY Puppy 2.0.2 Build 0.0.3 here. It's an older version.

I'll be back for this maybe later tonight or tomorrow.

RSH

Edit:

Would you please post a clean desktop (no program opened) screenshot?
keniv
PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec 2012, 11:18    Post subject:

Hi RSH

I do not get the shutdown GUI by clicking on the wbar button, tray button or the menu shutdown. Nothing happens when I click on any of the above. The timed shutdown does work and during shutdown with this I am given the option to shutdown with saving to save file or to shutdown without saving to save file. I had checked the md5sum and it was correct. However I thought it was possible it had become corrupted so I have rechecked and it is still correct. The iso I downloaded is called LazyPuppy-202-EN-003.iso. I am beginning to wonder if it could be something to do with the manual frugal install. However, I installed it to my hd in the same way the only difference being that I am booting a frugal install on an ntfs file system from grub on a small ext3 partition on the hd whereas with the flashdrive I am using grub4dos to boot a frugal install on a fat32 file system. I can't see how this could affect shutdown. I have thought of trying an install to a fresh flashdrive using the installer to see if this works. Thanks for your help with this.

Regards,

Ken.
RSH
PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec 2012, 08:14    Post subject:

Look also to the above post.

Quote:
Please let me know how to set midi to run in both studio. I can play midi only with TiMidity.

To play MIDI files I do use only TiMidity. Did not found another solution yet.

What I've done in my private Version to listen MIDI with TiMidity:

Rightclicked a .mid file and set a new default action for this file type. I choose the RunScript of TiMidity. So, if I click a .mid file, TiMidity sfs will load and after loaded and TiMidity is executed, it plays the file.

I did set a symbolic link in /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/OpenWith/.audio_midi to the RunScript for the use of TiMidity to play .mid files in background. But I've had to edit the TiMidity for this action.

I can upload the edited TiMidity sfs and post the files tomorrow or maybe in few days (I'm not at home currently), if wanted. Let me know.



For remastering:

earlier the last saviour wrote:
I'm glad to be the first who downlod LaZy Puppy from Mediafire, which is very fast.

also earlier the last saviour wrote:
The remaster function is OK

What did happen? Please tell me the exactly name of the downloaded ISO file. Did you install this Update?

RSH
RSH
PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec 2012, 07:43    Post subject:

Hi.

Quote:
I think DeadBeef 4.1-1 should be DeadBeef 0.4.1.


Thanks for the info. I will check this.

Quote:
After Lash audio & Jack audio sfs. are installed, some applications need to be installed whereas some applications need not. And Lash audio recording studio.sfs can't be unloaded.

You can't use the LashAudiostudio and the JackAudioStudio together.

LazY Puppy Guides wrote:
LazY Puppy 2.0.2 Final - Lash Audiostudio
All programs of Lash Audiostudio, there are 18, are stored in a single SFS File, LP2_LashStudio431.sfs. These programs are in menu Multimedia - Lash Audio Recording Studio.

All programs of Lash Audiostudio are only tested if they would run. I did never use any program of Lash Audiostudio, so i can't tell if they would work in general. It is therefor recommended to use Lash Audiostudio only in so-called Live-User-Mode and/or only on the use of a specific personal storage file (save file).


I did choose to add the LashAudiostudio to LazY Puppy after I found it mentioned in a post by "nancy reagan". I think I will remove this in the future.

Quote:
I also found TiMidity wouldn't work after Lash audio is loaded.

Would you please post every information on any SFS files you've found that did not work together, please, in this here forum?

The reason why I did choose to use SFS files instead of installing is: I can use programs from SFS that would not work if installed, because of conflicting libs etc.pp. But they work from SFS if NOT trying to load and use them together.

LazY Puppy has option to add such information to any LazY Puppy SFS. The so-called "nogo-dependencies. If an SFS "knows" its "nogo-dependencies" the RunScript usually offers information gui and option to unload conflicting SFS before loading the new one. But these information must be "known" by the SFS files.

If you do a right-click on a SFS you can "Add dependencies". Within this action one can also add the "nogo-dependencies". After adding the nogo-dependencies and (needed) creating a new RunScript this should work.

Please post such found conflicting SFS files, so, I can prepare them with this info for a later upload and therefor more comfortable use for any user.

I can't check each and every SFS file against each and every SFS file - Time, you know.

Thanks for the info.

RSH
the last saviour
PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec 2012, 06:33    Post subject:

Hi all;
If you got any problem with Pwidget, just delete Space_Puppy_filesystem. Then it will be a good Pwidget.

Lieber Herr RSH;
Thanks for your advices.
I will download those files and test SciPlore again.
I think DeadBeef 4.1-1 should be DeadBeef 0.4.1.
I am very confused with Lash audio & Jack audio recording studio. There're Jack Rack in both studio, but different version.
After Lash audio & Jack audio sfs. are installed, some applications need to be installed whereas some applications need not. And Lash audio recording studio.sfs can't be unloaded.
Please let me know how to set midi to run in both studio. I can play midi only with TiMidity.
I also found TiMidity wouldn't work after Lash audio is loaded.
With Osiris I can't remaster LazyPuppy. It will boot until ../root/.xint.... and cannot find xorg library!!!!
Viele dank.
RSH
PostPosted: Sun 09 Dec 2012, 06:32    Post subject:

Hi Ken.

Sorry for misunderstanding you the first time.

So, if your are booting from USB Flash and using a save file, the shutdown GUI offers a menu, wherein one can select to shutdown with saving to save file or to shutdown without saving to save file.

Would you please try this, and tell me the results.

I do use LazY Puppy generally from USB flash (FAT32). At home to 100% without the use of a save file, in my drumming room I do use a 512 MB save file. And it shuts down each and every time very well.

I'm currently not at home, so I can't make any tests on this. But will try on tomorrow. Would you please also check md5sum of downloaded ISO?

md5sum of LazY Puppy 2.0.2 Final Build 0.0.3: ffedb40dabea61f25cb461fb47fed626

RSH
keniv
PostPosted: Sat 08 Dec 2012, 19:31    Post subject:

Hello RSH

Thanks for your reply. I do not have a problem with the shutdown on the ntfs partition on my hd. The shutdown works flawlessly. I have defraged this hd but as I rarely use the copy of XP on it does not get fragmented quickly and as I said Lazy shuts down with no problems. The problem occurs when booting from a flash drive formated as fat32. This drive has only the four versions of Puppy previously mentioned plus grub4dos. All other versions of puppy shutdown as normal. With Lazy after first boot the shutdown works (I used the wbar icon). On pressing the button the dialog box appears and if I press the shutdown button the shutdown procedure starts and I am given the option to make a savefile. I have tried both ext2 and ext3 and various sizes of savefiles. However on next boot all seems well. My personal settings have been saved etc. However when I try to shutdown and press the wbar icon nothing happens. This is also the case with the icon in the tray and the menu. If I choose timed shutdown and set it to a minute this appears to work as after a short time a dialog box appears which counts down 30 seconds and the system shuts down as normal. I thought that this had something to do with the savefile on the flash drive. However I have also tried a copy of the working savefile from the hd but when this is transferred to the flashdrive shutdown still does not work. I have also tried booting a number of different machines from the flashdrive. All seemed to boot up as normal but again shutdown does not work. I hope this better explains the problem.

Regards,

Ken.
RSH
PostPosted: Sat 08 Dec 2012, 17:07    Post subject:

Hello Ken.

If you do install on ntfs partition and do use a save file this can cause problems if the ntfs partition is fragmented. To install on ntfs and create a save file on ntfs it is recommended to use windows "defrag" application at first (don't know its name). I do use generally USB Stick formatted to FAT32.

No one has ever posted shutdown problems on LazY Puppy build 002 or even build 003 - except a user who has installed a shutdown gui and did crush the LazY Puppy shutdown gui from that install.

Sorry to hear that.

What did you use for shutdown? Menu, Wbar Icon?

Would you please tell me the results after the recommnded work on the ntfs is done and LazY Puppy is installed again?

Thanks.
keniv
PostPosted: Sat 08 Dec 2012, 15:58    Post subject:

Hello All

I did a manual frugal install of Lazy 202-en-003 to an ntfs partition on the hd of my old Toshiba laptop (800MHz 320MB). I have XP and a number of Puppys including 528-005, Slacko 54, and Precise 541 nop on this drive. I boot these using grub which is on a small ext3 partition. This works well. I also have the same Puppys on a usb flash drive with one fat32 partition and I boot them with grub4dos. After booting Lazy for the first time and making a save file I get a problem on the second boot. The shutdown buttons don't work. I can shutdown with ctrl-alt-bksp then poweroff. I have also found the timed shutdown works. Have tried with ext2 and ext3 save files. This is only a problem with the the usb drive. I wonder if you have any ideas as to what could cause this and perhaps a solution?

Regards,

Ken.
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