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Gnuxo
PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun 2012, 00:23    Post subject:

Oh Thank You!!!

RSH, remember I said that I put a request notice up for gst123? Well it was answered.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=78867

This should save you a whole lot of work.

Oh and if you already have gst123.pet and you remove the dev stuff and just have plugins that will keep the iso size pretty small. Because the plugins aren't that big.

Libgstreamer and ffmpeg are the only libraries really needed. And they aren't that big either.

I forgot to include this plugin, it's the gstreamer plugin for alsa.
http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gst-plugins-base0.10/gstreamer0.10-alsa_0.10.36-1_i386.deb

I'm currently testing the gst123.pet myself so I can gauge how it works.
Gnuxo
PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 22:24    Post subject:

No Gstreamer-plugin bad,good and ugly are all nice.

In english there is a movie called the good, the bad and the ugly and that's probably why they are called that.

I know that the ugly plugin is non-free codecs and that's why it's called that.
...And the bad one, I don't know what's bad about it since it handles mpeg streaming.

As for the size, it depends on the functionality. The more plugins you add, the more content gstreamer will be able to handle. So, it really depends on how much functionality you'd want out of gstreamer. It could be worse, totem requires gnome and parole requires xfce libraries.

GST123 doesn't require any of that.
RSH
PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 19:37    Post subject:

Hi.

@oldyeller

Yes, there is a command for the terminal. The command is: ldd and it needs a filename (application or library) as parameter (example: ldd /usr/bin/abiword).

I have made a .pet (Dependencies Checker) that is already in LazY Puppy and can be used in other puppies. It must be somewhere in the Utilities section. Just do a right-click on a library or application. It shows the results in a text editor or in the terminal (option to choose) - the terminal stays open and usable.

Found it, the .pet is here.

What specific help do you need on making sfs files?

@Gnuxo

Thanks a lot for the links you've posted. This will save a lot of time to me (searching files on the web isn't as easy to do for me as it might be for an english user). I do surely need more than doubled time to read and understand and not to download the wrong files. This is so hard... ...i mostly give up.

I have taken a look at the gstreamer plugins yesterday and there is something, that confuses me. How do i take "bad" and "ugly" in the file names? Does this mean bad, ugly - do not download?

After having a look at the downloaded gstreamer plugins to me it looks like adding all these needed/requested files will not make a that lightweight links-browser-gst.sfs as it looks like having a look only on the links browser - this will increase its size surely up to 10mb or even more... (and it might increase the size of the iso as well, if some files needed to be installed).
Gnuxo
PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 14:26    Post subject:

Ok, RSH.
Here's a few packages I found.

Build Essential: http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.5_i386.deb

Libgstreamer0-10-dev:
http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gstreamer0.10/libgstreamer0.10-dev_0.10.36-1_i386.deb

Libgstreamer-plugins-10-base-dev:
http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gst-plugins-base0.10/libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev_0.10.36-1_i386.deb

Libgstreamer-plugins-10-base:
http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gst-plugins-base0.10/libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0_0.10.36-1_i386.deb

libgtk2.0-dev:
http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gtk+2.0/libgtk2.0-dev_2.24.10-1_i386.deb

libncurses-dev:http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/ncurses/libncurses5-dev_5.9-7_i386.deb

I posted gstreamer plugins good,bad and ugly in an earlier post.

Phonon-backend-gstreamer:http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/phonon-backend-gstreamer/phonon-backend-gstreamer_4.6.0.0-2_i386.deb

ffmpeg-gstreamer:http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian-multimedia/pool/main/g/gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg-dmo/gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg_0.10.13-0.2_i386.deb

I think that's it for now.
I hope these are enough.
oldyeller
PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 13:10    Post subject:

Yes I have used that before.

I want to remove any libs that I will not need and have them install as the programs that need them get installed.

oldyeller
Gnuxo
PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 12:54    Post subject:

Also...when you go to remove pre-installed packages there will be a warning of programs that could break because of it's removal.

So, that way you'll know what affects what and if you write down the list, you'll narrow down what you need or don't need.
oldyeller
PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 12:47    Post subject:

Hi Gnuxo,

the one in puppy menu only checks and sees if there are any missing and lets you know.

It first will only check the ones the usr has installed and than the rest that are in puppy.

Thanks

oldyeller
Gnuxo
PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 12:31    Post subject:

I think there's a menu entry that does that.

Menu>setup>check dependencies

Though I don't know if shows all the dependencies. You may have to look up each installed program online.

I recommend pkgs.org because they actually list all the dependencies for each program.

However that's not counting the default puppy apps because they are unique to puppy.
oldyeller
PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 12:18    Post subject:

Hi RSH and Everyone,

Is there a command for the terminal to check and see every dependence of an installed program?

What I want to do is create a Barebones well almost. All but the programs that I will be using. Was thinking to make all other programs SFS not sure though on how to do this.

Any help would be great.


Thanks
oldyeller
Gnuxo
PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 11:15    Post subject:

I forgot to ask if if .debs are sufficient.

Because once you have .debs for those required files,you can easily make them .pet using the deb2pet program.
Gnuxo
PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 00:20    Post subject:

I usually go to pkgs.org for all sorts of .debs

They have everything.

Gst plugins good, bad and ugly as well as ffmpeg and the gstreamer plugin for ffmpeg will all allow for youtube streaming. Phonon plugin is also good.

I'll post a few links here for the direct downloads.

Plugins good: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gst-plugins-good0.10/gstreamer0.10-plugins-good_0.10.21-1ubuntu2_i386.deb

Plugins Base:
http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gst-plugins-base0.10/gstreamer0.10-plugins-base_0.10.36-1_i386.deb

Plugins Bad: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gst-plugins-bad0.10/gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad_0.10.18-1ubuntu1.1_i386.deb

Plugins ugly: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gst-plugins-ugly0.10/gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly_0.10.14-1_i386.deb
RSH
PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 20:48    Post subject:

I have donwloaded links browser 2.6 and converted to LazY Puppy SFS - currently trying to make a post using the SFS. Seems to work fine so far. I hope, it will work also, if i do submit this message to the forum.

I did download the newest gst123 and try to compile - did fail because of missing gstreamer stuff.

It is needed to install the follwong files, before one can compile the gst123.

build-essential
libgstreamer0.10-dev
libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev
libgtk2.0-dev
libncurses-dev

The list is from here

I do currently not have the time to search for this files, but if you would collect them and upload somewhere that i can download, i would like to try to compile the gst123 and then build a links 2.6 sfs containing all files of gst123 - if compiling succeeds.
Gnuxo
PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 16:04    Post subject:

No, unfortunately.

Perhaps someone should make a .pet for the newest VLC, and have codecs as well. Confused

I think for streaming on puppy, gstreamer is the way to go because it offers better compatibility with browsers then mplayer frontends.

Mplayer is good, but it doesn't handle many protocols and Gstreamer plugins are available through the various puppy, ubuntu and/or slacko repos so it's possible to get Gstreamer working on any puppy.

....Also, Gstreamer with all it's plugins is capable of playing anything that vlc can. And many Gstreamer frontends are lighter then Mplayer's.

Parole is a good example. It uses less ram then Gnome mplayer. Also works well with Midori. Gecko-mediaplayer always glitched when I would try to use it with midori. Parole's browser plugin makes midori seem like a more full featured browser.

I haven't tried it yet, but there is Gst123 which is a command line audio/video player based on gstreamer. It supposedly can play anything Gstreamer supports right from the console.

So, I was thinking about using linx2 along with gst123 to handle media playback. It would probably be super lightweight and effective. Linx2 can't do everything that a big browser can, especially logging into some social networks but for casual browsing linx2 is all one would need.

.pet for Links2:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72044

There is no .pet for Gst123 though, I requested on but no one answered.

You can install parole on puppy, however you need .deb files.
There aren't any .pets that I know of. Especially for the browser plugin.

Sad
RSH
PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 13:56    Post subject:

Gnuxo wrote:
The new VLC is already an sfs. It's in the multimedia section of the puppy forum.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76271

Gimp 2.8 I can't find as a pet. Sad

I'm hoping that it's requirements aren't too steep either.

I did test the vlc-2.0.0 sfs, but it is for racy. It runs in LazY Puppy, but plays only audio. Video-Codecs (avi, mpeg) are missing.

I do have a vlc-1.1.10 .pet converted into LazY Puppy sfs file. Runs and works. Do you know of any vlc in between 1.1.10 and 2.0.0?
Gnuxo
PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 02:15    Post subject:

The new VLC is already an sfs. It's in the multimedia section of the puppy forum.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76271

Gimp 2.8 I can't find as a pet. Sad

I'm hoping that it's requirements aren't too steep either.
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