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RSH
PostPosted: Tue 08 May 2012, 17:17    Post subject:

LazY Puppy Info Center

Hi.

Introducing LazY Puppy 2.0.1 LazY Remaster, no Smart Remaster, no Quick Remaster. Very Happy

Currently i am doing the last programming steps and some localisations (German) on LazY Puppy 2.0.1. My last big work has been a shell to the puppy remaster function, which gives some comfortably options to remaster the LazY Puppy 2.0.1.

Here some options:

- specify ISO-Name before remastering starts
- specify des ISO-Label before remastering starts

- Option to remaster without possibility to edit /tmp/root and/or /tmp/etc (remaster likely in one step)
- Option to remaster standard (shows all OK- & Cancel-GUIs)
- Option to remaster standard customize (like customizing automatically /tmp/etc)
- Option to remaster full customize (removes /tmp/root and /tmp/etc and copies /root and /etc completely to /tmp (might work only in this (your used) remaster pc)

- Option to choose creating ISO and/or burn CD/DVD

All of these options can be set before the remaster starts.

Tomorrow hopefully finished the programming work and then need one more day to create and test the new LazY Puppy 2.0.1 sfs files (some new programs inside the sfs suites and also available as single apps (sfs)).

So, hopefully i can upload all files on Friday, 11th of Mai 2012.

RSH
RSH
PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 07:50    Post subject:

LazY Puppy Info Center

Thanks for posting your files, sunburnt.

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Introducing the LazY Puppy Run-Scripts:

- LazY Puppy 2.0.1 does not need to load any SFS in front of starting any application inside the sfs
- Just click the menu entry or the run-script of the application and if the SFS is not loaded, it will be loaded automatically
- Does the SFS need any other SFS, it loads the dependent SFS automatically (Lazarus loads autom. the devx)
- Is the sfs not available at LazY Puppy install-directory it will be downloaded automatically (no browser needed)
- After all needed SFS files are loaded, the program runs

This is made using run-scripts. These run-scripts can be created by right-click action on any unmounted/unloaded SFS (converted to LazY Puppy Format) - no matter if in /mnt/home or /mnt/sda3 and it is all really quick and easy to handle.

Here is a video: http://www.mediafire.com/?fyr7qmhfl853ccn it shows: the menu (no wine loaded), removing of wine from usb, trying to start foobar using the run-script, trying to load wine, downloading wine and then loading the sfs and running foobar - all after a single left-click on the run-script. LazY Puppy 2.0.1 will have all the menu entries of all LazYY Puppy SFS programs and these entries do call the related run-script (also all built in).

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Note: do not download the currently available LP2_Wine.sfs at smokey01.com - this is not the original file. It is just for my testings. You must not use this with LazY Puppy 2.0.1.
sunburnt
PostPosted: Sun 29 Apr 2012, 22:27    Post subject:

Okay... My Sunday of effort here.
A GtkDialog auto. menu of Tiny Core`s SCM app. files.

This is a link to my scm_kit post:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=624016#624016[/url]
sunburnt
PostPosted: Sun 29 Apr 2012, 14:55    Post subject:

RHS; And everyone. I have looked into Tiny Core Linux`s SCM files.
These are TC`s version of SqApp files, and there are a lot of them.

They seem to work fine in Puppy, I think this has been done already.
I`m not very good at compiling apps, so this is an easy way to go.

SCM files seem to be single app. only, SqApp files can have many apps.
Groups of like apps. go well in one Sq. file, media, server, office, etc.
SCM files can have more than one app., but how to tell what`s in it?
The /bin dir. in some scm files is cluttered with files, making it hard to
find the real run files. So then a sort of manifest file is needed to fix it.

SCM files also seem to have no dynamic "mount/umount" at run time.

I`m going to rewrite my auto. menu to use them, I`ll let you know...
Quote:
Make the dirs. "/apps" and "/mnt/(Partition for Files)/SCM"
Download SCMs and move to "/mnt/(Partition for Files)/SCM"
Make dir. "/apps/(SCM file name, NO extention)
Do: mount -o loop /(Path)/(SCM File) /apps/(SCM mnt. dir.)
Exec. the app`s run script in /bin.

Here`s a link to TC`s repository of SCM files:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/4.x/x86/scm/
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RSH
PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 14:29    Post subject:

LazY Puppy Info Center

sunburnt wrote:
I only have built Mahjongg and Dead Meat music player Sq.Apps.

I can post my files for you to examine if you like...

Sorry for late reply - i am just so busy. Yes, please do post your files.

I plan to upload all files of the new LazY Puppy 2.0.1 within the next week.

After release of LazY Puppy 2.0.1 i do plan a break of active develpoment for several weeks (except needed bug fixing).

More Information here


RSH
sunburnt
PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2012, 15:53    Post subject:

That`s great! I`ve been wanting a boot setup for Weeners.
I don`t use it myself but many friends and family still do.

I think there`s a simple way to have code setup a Grub4dos menu with found Puppies.
Then as you say, a change to the PC`s hardware wont break the boot setup.
I`ve changed drives as we all have and had the PC be unbootable. USB time...
At least a default search profile at the bottom to find one Puppy would be good.
minesadorada
PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2012, 05:20    Post subject:

sunburnt wrote:
minesadorada`s "find" for making boot menus sounds great!
Does it make a menu of all found bootable O.Ss.?


It doesn't make a menu. It just searches all available hard disk partitions for the frugal subdirectory. I have 7 hard disks on my system some with multiple partitions, and it's easy to forget which (hdn,n) each installaton is on. Besides, I don't want menu.lst to break if I change my system disk setup.

This Grub4DOS code can find Windows if it exists on a bootable partition:
Code:

# Windows
# this entry searches Windows on the HDD and boot it up
 title Windows
   errorcheck off
   find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /bootmgr
   chainloader /bootmgr
   find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /ntldr
   chainloader /ntldr
   find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd   /io.sys
   chainloader /io.sys
   errorcheck on
sunburnt
PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr 2012, 15:25    Post subject:

Sorry about the delayed reply, my main PC just died crippling me.

Sq.Apps are configured with: --prefix ( Path to Mount Point )
This sets the path where the app. is installed to, and also
where the app. expects to find it`s dependencies at.
App. C code has RPATH and CPATH that is set by this.
Anyone experienced in compiling should have no trouble with it.

Static built packages are more robust and run on more Linuxes.
Sure they`re bigger but media apps. are really library picky.
So the more that`s compiled in the greater chance it`ll work.

I only have built Mahjongg and Dead Meat music player Sq.Apps.

I can post my files for you to examine if you like...


minesadorada`s "find" for booting Puppy sounds great!
Does it make a menu of all found bootable O.Ss.?
minesadorada
PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr 2012, 02:33    Post subject:

RSH wrote:

Yes, this is almost exactly what i plan to do. But i want to go one step beyond that point. Currently i am able to do some work on this for the use with my own syslinux bootloader and also for Grub4DOS. I would like to make this also for Grub and/or Grub2 but i do not know how these boot menu entries have to look.

What do you use for booting LazY Puppy or other Puppies? Can you give an example for Grub and/or Grub2?


I use Grub4Dos, with its simple menu.lst. I don't specify the partition, but use the 'find --setroot' command, which searches the available partitions:
Code:
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /lazypuppy528/initrd.gz
kernel /lazypuppy528/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=lazypuppy528 pfix=fsck acpi=off
initrd /lazypuppy528/initrd.gz


I have used grub(2) and it is more powerful, but as I recall, you have to edit a copy of the menu.lst (or the custom40 list), then run the update facility which copies the changes to the real menu.lst.

For Puppy installs, grub(2) seems like overkill.

I like your boot wallpaper. I never managed to get graphics to work in my grub4dos setup.
RSH
PostPosted: Sat 21 Apr 2012, 23:56    Post subject:

sunburnt wrote:
Hi RSH; Have you considered using Squash Apps. instead of SFS files?
They are mounted but not unioned, so less complexity and cpu overhead.
They`ve been used in Puppy before, and Tiny Core Linux uses them too.
The Sq.App. package build and compile is almost the same as normal.

Pets and other legacy loose file packages take up Save file space.
They can get viruses and be corrupted, Squash file packages can`t.
If all app. packages are Squash file types then no union FS is needed.

I have a Sq.App. menu written in BaCon that mounts and runs the Sq.App.
when it`s clicked, and unmounts it when the Sq.App. is exited.
I need to write a menu right-click to remove the Sq.app. and it`s config. files.

I did never hear of Squash Apps and my experience to compile sources is less than less (and unfortunately almost unsuccessful). Do you have a link to a working .pet of Squash Apps and/or some information, where to find, how to use, how to make own squash apps etc.pp.?
RSH
PostPosted: Sat 21 Apr 2012, 23:46    Post subject:

minesadorada wrote:
When you release Lazy Puppy 2.1, can you include a sample menu.lst as a textfile (perhaps in the 'guides' section)?

This will make it easy for a user to copy/paste all the sfs load options into a frugal install menu.lst rather than having to (mis)type them.

Looking forward to Lazy Puppy 2.1 Smile

Yes, this is almost exactly what i plan to do. But i want to go one step beyond that point. Currently i am able to do some work on this for the use with my own syslinux bootloader and also for Grub4DOS. I would like to make this also for Grub and/or Grub2 but i do not know how these boot menu entries have to look.

What do you use for booting LazY Puppy or other Puppies? Can you give an example for Grub and/or Grub2?
sunburnt
PostPosted: Sat 21 Apr 2012, 02:27    Post subject:

Hi RSH; Have you considered using Squash Apps. instead of SFS files?
They are mounted but not unioned, so less complexity and cpu overhead.
They`ve been used in Puppy before, and Tiny Core Linux uses them too.
The Sq.App. package build and compile is almost the same as normal.

Pets and other legacy loose file packages take up Save file space.
They can get viruses and be corrupted, Squash file packages can`t.
If all app. packages are Squash file types then no union FS is needed.

I have a Sq.App. menu written in BaCon that mounts and runs the Sq.App.
when it`s clicked, and unmounts it when the Sq.App. is exited.
I need to write a menu right-click to remove the Sq.app. and it`s config. files.
minesadorada
PostPosted: Fri 20 Apr 2012, 13:10    Post subject:

When you release Lazy Puppy 2.1, can you include a sample menu.lst as a textfile (perhaps in the 'guides' section)?

This will make it easy for a user to copy/paste all the sfs load options into a frugal install menu.lst rather than having to (mis)type them.

Looking forward to Lazy Puppy 2.1 Smile
RSH
PostPosted: Fri 20 Apr 2012, 10:59    Post subject: LazY Puppy 2.0.1 - Multiboot DVD
Subject description: Any interest?

Hello to all who are interested on LazY Puppy 2.0.1 (coming really soooooon!),

i have build (just for fun and testing) a LazY Puppy 2.0.1-rc1 Multiboot DVD that contains all sfs files plus a LazY Puppy Win Installer which contains also all sfs files and installs LazY Puppy frugal with all sfs files in windows.

First screenshot shows dvd main menu (only LazY Puppy 2.0.1-rc1 n.y.p.)
Second screenshot shows dvd sub menu (boot as LazY Puppy Audio Studio, RAM only)
Third screenshot shows boot sequence of loading LazY Puppy Audio Studio SFS

All running from DVD using LazY Puppy Tools (VirtualBox) SFS...







I think this is really interesting and i might want to build such dvd to download - when LazY Puppy 2.0.1 is released.

But this ISO is a huge one - it's about 4,2 GB and it will surely take a lot of time to upload/download such huge file.

So if there would be any interest on such LazY Puppy Multiboot DVD to download, let me know.

RSH
RSH
PostPosted: Wed 11 Apr 2012, 07:49    Post subject: Re: Lazy Puppy for begunners

minesadorada wrote:
Can I suggest that when mode=beginner:

1 ) The WBar should not have links to Console or PFind, but should have a link to sylpheed (or other email program), GnomePlayer and Zine.

2 ) It might also be an idea to disable the menu tree altogether/make it invisible as it's not needed in beginner mode. (WBar does everything they need)

3 ) The bootup splash dialog is disabled

4 ) Frisbee is the default network connector

5 ) Desktop drive icons are enabled (at least the USB stick/card reader one anyway, since users like to transfer and/or view photos easily)

6 ) All drives are automounted on bootup

I had to make these changes recently when setting up Lazy 2 for a laptop where the elderly user (like many people) only used their computer for:
a ) Surfing the net
b ) Reading emails
c ) Looking at photos
d ) Playing DVDs

From a 10-minute bootup in Vista to a 45 second bootup in Lazy - my laptop friend is pretty impressed with his 'new' laptop!

I also symlinked the 'My Documents' and 'Downloads' directories to the hard disk, but I realise this cannot be automated (or can it?)


1. Should be possible and released when i upload the new iso.

2. Should be possible too. The FbPanel has option to disable the menu, so i will set this as default in beginner mode.

3. I want to have the bootup splash dialog when booting without using a save file. I will try to find a solution to disable this when a save file is used - but can't make promises on that fact. If it fails, i think it should be easy to a beginner, to move file /root/Startup/zz_run_lazyinfo into /root/Startup/off.

4. This needs to install frisbee?!?!?! Will it make the iso much bigger?

5. Also easy to do and i will set this as default in beginner mode.

6. I don't know if it is possible to set this as default without using a save file. Usually you can't run automount/startmount (or whatever it is named) without using a savefile - got to improve this

Quote:
I also symlinked the 'My Documents' and 'Downloads' directories to the hard disk, but I realise this cannot be automated (or can it?)

I don't know, where the LazY Puppy is installed on the users computer and i don't know actually that much on bash. I could made this default on sda1 (f.e) but i think it would be better to do so on the boot hd/directory. I don't know how to get the boot hd/directory by bash functions. Sad Surely someone in the programming section (sunburnt, bruce b, jpeps, scOttman etc.pp) does know this. If you could find out, maybe getting some code from there, would be fine - i am busy, busy, busy... Very Happy

Quote:
Changing the name from 'beginner mode' to 'surfer mode' would make it seem more cool

This would be a lot of work to do - but you can edit the menu entry - oh, no that's also a lot of work. Needs to edit 4 .desktop files in 4 different directories. It isn't really that un- Cool
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