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RSH
PostPosted: Sat 10 Mar 2012, 08:58    Post subject: LazY Puppy 5.2.8-4 Release 2
Subject description: LazY528-Internet.sfs

LazY Puppy Info Center
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=591223#591223
Quick & Easy Information to BugFixes, Updates & more

This one is:

The LazY528-Internet.sfs and it is actually uploaded.

Idea LazY528-Internet.sfs (Internet & Network Programs, 54mb)

- Firefox-7.0
- FlashPlayer-10.2.159.1.0
- Filezilla-3.5.3
- Opera-11.5

md5sum:
010f101ec7231f91a9ac6cd2635721dd

First Post updated!

Note: It will show the English Menu if the English Keyboard Layout is set.
shinobar
PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2012, 01:29    Post subject: multilingual feature

don570 wrote:
I did an interesting experiment using Lazy
I found a way to automatically switch the 'OpenWith' folder between
German and English at the time of changing $LANG.

Very interesting.

You can place a translating script named 'exralang' at /usr/sbin instead of changing the code of countrywizard.qs. The current code of the firstrun(countrywizard.qs) detects and executes the script if it is found.
Note that the 'exralang' script is called unconditionally for now. It shall be called only if the locale is changed in the future versions of the firstrun.

P.S.: as for the directory name, they are better to be like 'OpenWith-de' and 'OpenWith-en' rather than 'OpenWith-German' and 'OpenWith-English'.
RSH
PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 23:20    Post subject:

minesadorada wrote:
Hi RSH,
Lazy Puppy 5.2.8 Frugal install
Active wired ethernet connection
Default browser is SRWare Iron 14.0.850.0
Internet connectivity fine.
Printer is HP Deskjet 5150

The CUPS administration page 500 error has always been there since installing LazyPup so I cannot install my printer.

I don't get any page 500 error message.

Would you please improve the following:

- try using cups on LazY Puppy without using a save file (so that you have no other applications installed)
- if the error message doesn't return, then one of your installed application seems to be responsible on this issue
- install one by one the applications that you have had installed and try to use cups after every installation (maybe you can find the responsible program that way)

I do not use a printer on my computers. If i do have something to print, i go to a copy-shop and print there. So i just can make suggestions on this issue. Sad

don570 wrote:
I did an interesting experiment using Lazy

I found a way to automatically switch the 'OpenWith' folder between
German and English at the time of changing $LANG.

... ...

After installation you will notice a change in the right click menu items
when switching between various languages.

When switching back to English it will change the right click menu items
back to English automatically.

Yes, this is really interesting. I have installed the .pet and it works! Smile

Unfortunately i can not use it out of the box. Crying or Very sad

But it gives to me a good point where to start at. Exclamation

Nice done and thanks a lot for this. Smile
don570
PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 21:19    Post subject:

I did an interesting experiment using Lazy

I found a way to automatically switch the 'OpenWith' folder between
German and English at the time of changing $LANG.

Instructions : Just install the pet package below and everything
will be done automatically for you. It shouldn't
matter what language you are in while installing.

I used the following script in the pinstall.sh to modify
Shinobar's countrywizard.qs

Code:
#!/bin/sh
rm -rf /root/.config/OpenWith-English
CHECK=`grep "switch right click"  /usr/sbin/countrywizard.qs`
if [ -z "$CHECK" ]; then

sed -e 's/export LANG=\$NEWLANG/export LANG=\$NEWLANG\n# switch right click option menus\nif [ "${LANG:0:2}" != "en" ] \&\& [ -e \/root\/\.config\/OpenWith-German ];then\nmv \/root\/\.config\/rox\.sourceforge\.net\/OpenWith \/root\/\.config\/OpenWith-English\nmv \/root\/\.config\/OpenWith-German \/root\/\.config\/rox\.sourceforge\.net\/OpenWith\nfi\nif [ "${LANG:0:2}" = "en" ] \&\& [ -e \/root\/\.config\/OpenWith-English ];then\nmv \/root\/\.config\/rox\.sourceforge\.net\/OpenWith \/root\/\.config\/OpenWith-German\nmv \/root\/\.config\/OpenWith-English \/root\/\.config\/rox\.sourceforge\.net\/OpenWith\nfi\n/' /usr/sbin/countrywizard.qs > /usr/sbin/countrywizard.qs.copy
mv -T /usr/sbin/countrywizard.qs.copy /usr/sbin/countrywizard.qs
chmod 777 /usr/sbin/countrywizard.qs
else
yaf-splash -deco  "Warning" -bg orange -fontsize x-large -close box -text "
This software can not be installed,
because countrywizard hasn't been installed,
or this software has already been installed.
"
fi
exit 0


After installation you will notice a change in the right click menu items
when switching between various languages.

When switching back to English it will change the right click menu items
back to English automatically.

Warning. Use this pet package on an installation that you can trash!!


This method works on Lazy , Lucid 528 , Akita and Slacko.

When I checked on Exprimo it only partially worked because it
uses a more recent version of Countrywizard.( I had to launch
countrywizard.qs from the terminal or from the start menu)
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minesadorada
PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 15:19    Post subject: Re: Lazy Puppy 5.2.8
Subject description: CUPS

RSH wrote:
minesadorada wrote:
Lazy Puppy 5.2.8

Menu/Setup/CUPS Printer Wizard

If I click the CUPS 'Administration' tab, I get '500 Internal Server Error'

Is this a bug?

I can click on every tab without error messages. Did you try this online or offline. Actually i did try this online and it seems to me like cups does need active online connection.


Hi RSH,
Lazy Puppy 5.2.8 Frugal install
Active wired ethernet connection
Default browser is SRWare Iron 14.0.850.0
Internet connectivity fine.
Printer is HP Deskjet 5150

The CUPS administration page 500 error has always been there since installing LazyPup so I cannot install my printer.
Pete22
PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 14:47    Post subject:  frugal-symlink

Thank you RSH for listening. Very Happy

Frugal-symlink

Confused I only half understand symlinks so I copied this information from the lighthouse documentation:

Frugal-symlink (Move and Link Programs) helps keep the LHPsave from filling up with bulky packages like JavaRE.

All new pets for this release are built with a simple command executed at install and uninstall:

SOURCE_DIR DEST_DIR
frugal-symlink /usr/lib/java java & (in pinstall.sh)

frugal-symlink /usr/lib/java java --remove & (in puninstall.sh)

/usr/sbin/frugal-symlink is just a shell script with a GUI that offers to automatically move and symlink large program directories to a carefully named sub folder of /mnt/home (in a frugal install--where the LHPsave is on a Linux-formatted partition.)

This approach combines the best of both worlds: bulky apps are less apt to fill up the LHPsave--the primary advantage of an SFS, with the ease of click-and-run without rebooting in a Pet package. As with a standard frugal install, the programs moved and linked outside of the LHPsave are stored in a way that still allows sharing the partition with other Puppies / distros.
--

The creator of lighthouse pup is Tazoc. However, he is very ill and not working on his puppy right now. Crying or Very sad If you need more help, maybe a geeky LHP user would help you.

I found a copy of version .05 for you:
http://lhpup.org/source/503/applications/frugal-symlink-0.5.tar.gz

There is a version .9 in lhp 64, but I could not find a copy.
Perhaps if you download the .iso you could find a way to extract it.

http://www.lhpup.org/beta/L64-514/

My suggestion for this script, if it is possible, would be to have the default be to /mnt/home; but on first use offer the user a chance to change the location to a different place if needed.

Have a great day!

Pete
RSH
PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 13:38    Post subject: Re: Lazy Puppy 5.2.8
Subject description: CUPS

minesadorada wrote:
Lazy Puppy 5.2.8

Menu/Setup/CUPS Printer Wizard

If I click the CUPS 'Administration' tab, I get '500 Internal Server Error'

Is this a bug?

I can click on every tab without error messages. Did you try this online or offline. Actually i did try this online and it seems to me like cups does need active online connection.
minesadorada
PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 10:03    Post subject: Lazy Puppy 5.2.8
Subject description: CUPS

Lazy Puppy 5.2.8

Menu/Setup/CUPS Printer Wizard

If I click the CUPS 'Administration' tab, I get '500 Internal Server Error'

Is this a bug?
RSH
PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 02:13    Post subject:

Quote:
but it took me a lot of crashes before I learned that I needed to do this.

Really? Shocked

Ok, i will put clearly information and manual about this issue in the QuickInstall inside the new iso. Smile

Note: the path (edit field) in the lazy direct sfs loader is for extra sfs files on another place/directory.

Try copy some sfs files to /mnt/sda1 and enter /mnt/sda1 into the edit field of lazy direct sfs loader. After clicking OK a GUI comes up where you can select the sfs files at /mnt/sda1. Smile

Should work with every directory.

I did made this in case of not enought space in /mnt/home. Cool

Quote:
Maybe this program will do the trick. Frugal-symlink found in lighthouse pup5.03 It sees stuff that should not be in the savefile and automatically moves them outside the savefile. It's a really cool application.

Can you make an attachment of this program or upload somewhere i can download?
Pete22
PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 01:58    Post subject:

Ok. yes I can. And I do, but it took me a lot of crashes before I learned that I needed to do this.

I am hoping to help others avoid this learning curve. Smile

Idea Maybe this program will do the trick. Frugal-symlink found in lighthouse pup5.03 It sees stuff that should not be in the savefile and automatically moves them outside the savefile. It's a really cool application.


Pete
RSH
PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 01:42    Post subject:

Pete22 wrote:
Wow, You are fast.

You answered my question even before I finished an edit after I posted.

If I understand you correctly, you will change the default location for saving files in the browser.

Great. This also means I need to make my savefile before I start downloading
so they can all be together. Ok. A good suggestion to give to a nongeek.


Embarassed attachment: I saw those boxes down there but my brain could did not process what they were for. Embarassed

see picture attached

Since I downloaded all my sfs to mount/home I edited it to say mount/home.
But puppy still did not see the "treats' there. Crying or Very sad


Pete Very Happy


No, not i will - you can change the directory where to save downloaded files by using the prefences of firefox (menu edit of firefox)

To be able to load the sfs files go to LazY Puppy menu and choose LazY Puppy preferences.

Change the paths inside the GUI from .../sdd1/... to .../home/...

Do save the sfs files inside directory of lazy_528.sfs. Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

Lets say you have lazy_528.sfs in /mnt/home/lazy then /mnt/home/lazy must be the entered path.

sdd1 is my partition of LazY Puppy.

If you do not have sdd1 and the sfs files therefor not saved in sdd1, the sfs-loader searches automatically in /root.
Pete22
PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 01:35    Post subject:

Also see where your files are trying to load from:
Pete22
PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 01:23    Post subject:

Wow, You are fast.

You answered my question even before I finished an edit after I posted.

If I understand you correctly, you will change the default location for saving files in the browser.

Great. This also means I need to make my savefile before I start downloading
so they can all be together. Ok. A good suggestion to give to a nongeek.


Embarassed attachment: I saw those boxes down there but my brain could did not process what they were for. Embarassed

see picture attached

Since I downloaded all my sfs to mount/home I edited it to say mount/home.
But puppy still did not see the "treats' there. Crying or Very sad


Pete Very Happy
RSH
PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 00:55    Post subject:

Pete22 wrote:
Is it possible to reset the default in the default browser to be /mount/home so nongeeks don't make that mistake?

Yes, it is possible, to do so.

Start firefox and open firefox menu-edit-preferences. Choose tab General. Then you can set the path to a new download target directory. You can also set to get asked at every download where to save.

It should be easy.

It would make sense and would end in a good result for easy use of sfs files, to change the download directory to directory of lazy_528.sfs! (only for downloading the LazY Puppy sfs files) Smile

For any other downloads you can choose any other directory.

EDIT: To add a picture to a post, choose "add attachment" while editing a post (it is always below the edit field.

EDIT2:No, i did not change the download directory. Usually the paths are set to /root because it is not obviously, what hardware (hd, usb, flash-card etc) is available at the users computer.

/root is existing in every system. That's the simple reason. Smile
Pete22
PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2012, 00:41    Post subject:

Thank you RSH and musher0.

You both gave me a lot of new information that I needed to know and will study carefully.

My question actually is slightly different than what you thought.

Follow me as I pretend to boot up LazYpup. first time.
Put disk in drive and reboot computer. '
Puppy plays a minute or so and then you get the desktop.
Hopefully I see your welcome message and the personal settings comes up. I answer the settings.
I set up my internet connection.
And then I start looking at all the toys in your quick pet. I want them, so I click on the first one.
Up pops default browser. to the page for me to download it. Great.
I click on the link to start downloading.....

Now here is the problem.... I have not met a puppy yet that has the default browser set to save to anywhere except some where in root.

If I haven't made a save file yet, I save to mount/sda1. If I have made a savefile I save to mount/home.

I told my brother to save there, but he was SO excited to try LazYpup that he forgot to change the default download location. So he downloaded everything to default location [which is always in root] until his Puppy crashed.

So my question: Is it possible to reset the download location in the default browser to be outside of the safefile so nongeeks don't make that mistake?

I suspect you geeky folks change that default setting without even thinking. However, a non geek does not know what will happen if they don't change it.

This also brings up another point. I often run a live cd with a save file. I would do a frugal install, except I mess up grub 80% of the time. When is the best time to do the save file or install? [However, If I am thinking correctly. Question the browser issue will still be a problem unless you do a full install.]

If it can't be changed, can a warning be placed in quick pet?

For the other question, I need to load a picture to this forum so you can see what I am talking about. How do I do this?

Thanks for you good work!

Pete
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