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RSH
PostPosted: Sat 07 Jan 2012, 12:30    Post subject: LazY Puppy 5.2.8-4 - released
Subject description: Experiences in putting this together.

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Lobster wrote:
Do tell us about your experiences in putting this together. Few people realize the work involved until told . . .

At first i have to say: i have loved the .pup (Muppy 08.3F). The .pup always gave me Information about existing files before it continues to install. The .pet overwrites every existing file and keeps the action "classified". So to me the .pup is LINUX and the .pet is WINDOWS. Windows doesn't take care of the mbr. It overwrites everything that is in the mbr. And so is the .pet. Linux takes care of the mbr. You will always get your windows system (if installed), no matter how much Puppies/Linux's you have installed (did never ever hear of another case). And similar is the .pup.

This took me to the following way to work out and put together .pet and .sfs files.

1. Step/Rule
------------
1.a Boot always clean system
1.b Only install .pet files without using a save file (Live, CD or USB)
1.c Only install .pet files to check out the program (it runs? it works?)

2. Step/Rule
------------
2.a Boot always clean System
2.b Extract the .pet (extract to Linux partition, to keep the links)
2.c Copy the extracted .pet manually into the linux system

2.d Do not allow to replace existing files

- 2.d.a Create a directory containing exactly the structure of the files that want to overwrite existing ones
- 2.d.b Move the files that want to overwrite existing files into that created directory
- (do this step by step, and always before clicking OK, until all files are copied, maybe lots of directories and subdirs have to be created)
- 2.d.c Create a .pet out of the directory of the extracted .pet, that now should miss those files that have wanted to overwrite existing files
- 2.d.d Create a .pet out of the directory that contains the moved files
- 2.d.e Rename the .pet's (familiar to another but different to the original)
- 2.d.f Backup the .pet's (and the directories, they maybe needed later)

2.e Refresh the menu to get the desktop entry (openbox refresh menu refreshes fbpanel also and calls fixmenus (afaik))
2.f Run the program and use it as it should be used for

3. Step/Rule
------------
3.a If everything has been fine, decide if you want to use/install the program (keep the .pet's!)

Otherwise

- 3.b Program crashes or some functions doesn't work? Install the created .pet containing the moved files
- 3.b.a Do exactly (exactly as you can) what you have done as the program crashes
- 3.b.b If the program doesn't crash and all functions seem to work i usually open my window and JUMP (just kidding)
- (This is always the point where hard and long during work has its start)
- 3.b.c Boot always clean system
- 3.b.d Check file differences manually file by file (existed and moved)
- 3.b.e If moved file is a link and existed file has a "double" (same size, familiar name f.e. =.so to =.so.0 then maybe everything will be ok
- If moved file and existed file have the same size and just different date and/or time then maybe everything will be ok

Otherwise = QUIT (maybe put this one in a sfs but not installing this one using save file and/or remastering cd)

4. Step/Rule
------------
4.a Next .pet
4.b Go back to 1.

nooby wrote:
That is another thing I love about Smokey.
Very generous of him to share that fast server.

Yes!

I have been really surprised about getting this offer! Very Happy

Did you read my post, where i have answered your questions?

RSH
nooby
PostPosted: Sat 07 Jan 2012, 06:38    Post subject:

That is another thing I love about Smokey.
Very generous of him to share that fast server.
RSH
PostPosted: Sat 07 Jan 2012, 01:31    Post subject: LazY Puppy 5.2.8-4 - released
Subject description: New Server to download the files!

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@nooby again:

Thanks to smokey01 it is now possible to me to move the files to the server of smokey01.

He has created an ftp account and sent me the details. So, I am working on it.

RSH
James C
PostPosted: Fri 06 Jan 2012, 21:58    Post subject:

Ray MK wrote:

JFYI - the very high CPU activity on startup and at other times - is largely caused by Pwidgets.
when Pwidgets is removed or disabled - CPU is mostly ok.


Haven't subjected this to a lot of testing but when I turned off the "cpu graph" and left the rest running my cpu activity returned to normal.YMMV.
RSH
PostPosted: Fri 06 Jan 2012, 20:44    Post subject: LazY Puppy 5.2.8-4 - released
Subject description: Do i get money from mediafire? NO!

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nooby wrote:
RSH hope it is okay to ask why I get taken to a page with
extremely many ads on when I click on quick.

I am a poor reader of text? Did you warn about this being a choice
you had to do? Do you get money from them or what?

I would have preferred to have been warned first.
Maybe you did and I failed to read that part on page one of this thread?


Hi nooby.

Please feel free, to ask, whatever you want to ask me!

In the Post to Lazarus i have told that my files are hosted at mediafire, i should have better done this in the main post.

I don't have own webspace, so i deceide mediafire. I have tried some other filehosters, but most of them just want to get my email adress. They never returned a message to me so that i could activate the webspace. Mediafire does.

I do not get money from mediafire or any other person/organization etc.pp.

I did this all:

1. I just wanted to have a system like LazY Puppy 5.2.8-4
2. I want to give back something to the users of puppy linux (especially the users of this forum) because they gave me a lot of help (as you can see, i have joined the forum in September 2011, so i am quite new to linux as well).

I did not want to make anybody angry.

I have tried to download some files. What is wrong with that site? (Attachment)

Quote:
@sternenstaub
Quote:
Download all files inside the directory into the same location and click the .sh file to build the sfs.


You might also need to make the script executable (right click, Properties)


Thank you emil for adding this information. I sometimes forget a downloaded shellscript file can be in-executable after download.

RSH
nooby
PostPosted: Thu 05 Jan 2012, 21:36    Post subject:

RSH hope it is okay to ask why I get taken to a page with
extremely many ads on when I click on quick.

I am a poor reader of text? Did you warn about this being a choice
you had to do? Do you get money from them or what?

I would have preferred to have been warned first.
Maybe you did and I failed to read that part on page one of this thread?
emil
PostPosted: Thu 05 Jan 2012, 16:56    Post subject:

@sternenstaub
Quote:
Download all files inside the directory into the same location and click the .sh file to build the sfs.


You might also need to make the script executable (right click, Properties)
RSH
PostPosted: Thu 05 Jan 2012, 14:07    Post subject: LazY Puppy 5.2.8-4 - released

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Hello,

Lobster wrote:
Are you coding and compiling some of your code in Pascal? That is new.


Actually there is nothing in LazY Puppy 5.2.8-4 that has been compiled in Pascal. I am trying to "re-invent" a DTP Score Editor that i have programmed in ST Pascal + (Atari ST Series), in the middle of the 1990's. It has more than 75000 Lines of Code and it seems to be a lifetime job. Actually i am learning on Lazarus because Free Pascal is different to the Pascal, that i have learned.

Everything i have coded inside LazY Puppy 5.2.8-4 is been made using ShellScript (Bash, actually i like this very much) and most of this can be found in /usr/sbin/ceelab/.

Quote:
Do tell us about your experiences in putting this together. Few people realize the work involved until told . . .


I will do this in a few days. I have copied the thread and do write the story offline, at home.

RSH
RSH
PostPosted: Wed 04 Jan 2012, 16:28    Post subject:

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sternenstaub wrote:
Where can i download the 3 sfs Lazarus files?
Not found in quick install.

Thank you - great work!


Thank you very much.

QuickInstall > Menu LazY Puppy > LazY Puppy 5.2.8-4 Lazarus & Free Pascal

Download all files inside the directory into the same location and click the .sh file to build the sfs.
sternenstaub
PostPosted: Wed 04 Jan 2012, 16:21    Post subject:

Where can i download the 3 sfs Lazarus files?
Not found in quick install.

Thank you - great work!
RSH
PostPosted: Wed 04 Jan 2012, 16:12    Post subject: LazY Puppy 5.2.8-4 - released
Subject description: Bugfix for LazY Puppy Preferences - not needed for german keyboard layout

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Hello,

i am online outside my home. I will use that way to get here for a few days.

Unfortunately (nobody is perfect) i have to inform you about a small bug in the LazY Puppy preferences GUI. The changes made are not being saved, if you are using english keyboard layout. I attached a pet to fix it. Please download this pet if you are using endlish keyboard layout.

It is not needed if you are using german keyboard layout.

nooby wrote:
Now I only have to learn the SFS thing.


Just copy the downloaded sfs files into the directory of lazy_528.sfs (f.e. /mnt/sdb1/LazY/)

After that got to "Menu>SFS Applications>LazY SFS Direkt Load" and run the wanted sfs by menu entry or run the "LazY528 Application sfs-load".

Ray MK wrote:
JFYI - the very high CPU activity on startup and at other times - is largely caused by Pwidgets.
when Pwidgets is removed or disabled - CPU is mostly ok.


Another reason could be the NewFBPanel with plugs by stu90.

As you can see there are several plugs active in the fbpanel. You can disable them in the desktop menu (fbpanel preferences or configuration)
nooby
PostPosted: Wed 04 Jan 2012, 15:12    Post subject:

Ray I tested to edit which widget to keep?
I have widgets now on Snow Puppy 5 that Pemasu made
and they don't take so much cpu.

Maybe it is a subjective thing. I am not good at knowing how to
measure such things. I am happy it all works now.

Now I only have to learn the SFS thing.
Ray MK
PostPosted: Wed 04 Jan 2012, 09:45    Post subject:

Hi RSH

JFYI - the very high CPU activity on startup and at other times - is largely caused by Pwidgets.
when Pwidgets is removed or disabled - CPU is mostly ok.

However - have seen similar excess CPU activity caused by flash.

Have only ran Lazy528 on my old Acer Laptop so far - must try on EeePC and newer laptop.

Many thanks for all you have done with Lazy - fantastic puppy - much appreciated.

Very bets regards - Ray
nooby
PostPosted: Wed 04 Jan 2012, 08:10    Post subject:

Thanks for giving all the details instructions such is appreciated.
Okay about the expensive ISP Yes GPRS can be expensive in Sweden too.
RSH
PostPosted: Tue 03 Jan 2012, 18:57    Post subject: LazY Puppy 5.2.8-4 - released

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Hello to all of you and thank you very much!

I am really very much surprised of your kind words and especially the downloads (by now: 117 iso and 26 exe downloaded) Surprised Shocked

Thank you again for that.

Lobster wrote:
As I understand it the SFS can be used in the latest standard Lucid?


Yes, but as you can see in the images posted to the sfs files: you will not get any menu entry in lucid. I don't want to get disordered my basic menu structure and so i have chosen to put everything that is in a sfs into its own sfs menu. This has to do with several reasons like my age (fourty-eight), my bad eys (need glasses to work on my computer/puppy but not while drumming), my uusing of several computers and OS's and not everytime to know, "where is what?".

I think this is a good solution.

SFR wrote:
And I'm sure these additional .sfs files will be extremely useful for many (certainly for me), even if some of them won't be using LazY itself.


I found out that some of the sfs or similar included programs do not work with every other puppy. Just to prevent users from downloading of files that won't work for them i have chosen to post no links to the sfs files.

That's why i have created the QuickInstall, to make sure, you can download the sfs only from inside LazY Puppy 528-4.

-----

Unfortunately i have to go offline for a few days, because of my expensive internet provider. Normally i am a "fulltime-offliner" because i don't like the internet very much. I fact of using several computers in several locations i use a mobile gprs modem to get onto the internet. It has been a good solution to me until now. I did just use it to update some software from time to time.

Since i have joined the forum i have been more often online than the last three years ago. That's why i have to change the contract and/or the provider.

But i will be back for sure, because: i am caught in puppy!

Thank you all again.

RSH
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