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Cu Chulinux


Joined: 28 Jan 2018
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Aug 2018, 19:29    Post subject:  

@rufwoof

I just checked and I have the same issue with mc.

In a terminal in X the keys all work fine. In a console the first five Fn keys do nothing. Well F1 in terminal calls up an error about missing help file but that is common.

I think it's a keymapping error. When I type F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 at the console commandline I get ABCDE. That doesn't match the terminal.

No time or energy to dig deeper at the moment.
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rufwoof

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Aug 2018, 20:55    Post subject:  

Hi Cu Chulinux

Unable to re-dd the MMC card I've been using for EasyOS, looks like its reach end of life.

Suspect the F1 .. F5 mc issue may be due to TERM=xterm. Wild guess but perhaps if you set it to something else such as export TERM=linux that might fix it.

In OpenBSD I set TERM to pccon0 and set
Code:
PS1="\[\e[34;1m\]Pwd: \[\e[36m\]\w\n\[\e[31;1m\]\u@\h> \[\e[32m\]"
for nice console colours.

Looks very much like the attached, but that's a X based snapshot as you can't take a snapshot of a console
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2018, 01:01    Post subject:  

@ Antipodal
@DanielSong39

I believe LibreOffice is in Easy/Quirky. That has calc and writer.
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2018, 08:18    Post subject:  

rufwoof wrote:
Suspect the F1 .. F5 mc issue may be due to TERM=xterm. Wild guess but perhaps if you set it to something else such as export TERM=gnome that might fix it.

export TERM=linux
seems to do the trick
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2018, 10:20    Post subject:  

Tweaked the default console container in a similar manner to this post
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=991278#991278
added rover to the audio group (addgroup rover audio) inside that container, and adjusted the capsh line near the bottom to not set (drop) any capsh values. I also set it to run seamonkey instead of /bin/sh and its running well.

If I press r in a couple of seconds of clicking the container console it drops me into root within the container, otherwise it starts seamonkey in a highly restricted manner (running as rover, highly restricted in what rover can do, but still runs seamonkey and plays youtubes (along with sound) OK. Posting this using that seamonkey. Next stop is to see how well it works or not if I change it from xorg to xephyr ...

EDIT: yay! xephyr works. Does go black screen with just the terminal window showing (X as a cursor)... and then up pops seamonkey. No tray etc. shown, however alt-tab (or alt-F6) takes me to the 'normal' desktop (I'm OK as alt/tab pinky/thumb is pretty much my everyday navigation method around different windows anyway i.e. OpenBSD cwm where I have all windows maximised and just flip between them). Like it (xephyr), additional X isolation on top of heavy restrictions raises the bar that little bit higher.

Under xephyr closing the window is the same as with closing the desk container, close the window, but then you have to alt-F6 and then right click the tray entry for sh0 and select the close option.

Next stop ... another day ... is to set it so the container automatically rolls back after its closed so ready with a clean version again the next time seamonkey (rover/container) is started.
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2018, 11:43    Post subject:  

BTW my SD/MMC just decided to work again. Removed the micro card from the caddy and sharply blew things - so may have just been dust or perhaps the lock/unlock slider as that wasn't fully slid up (but may have just been me knocking it out of position).

Was going to download the devX and have a go at compiling tmux for EasyOS, however there's insufficient space on the 2GB SD/MMC that I'm using to do that.

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Cu Chulinux


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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2018, 19:04    Post subject:  

rufwoof that worked, thanks. Saved me having to figure it out myself.
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Aug 2018, 02:20    Post subject:  

foxpup wrote:
@ Antipodal
@DanielSong39

I believe LibreOffice is in Easy/Quirky. That has calc and writer.

Thanks foxpup, I'm sorry but I think I wasn't clear enough in my post and you didn't get me.

When I wrote it, I knew that with EasyOS I could count on using LibreOffice Calc spreadsheet editor. But I could'nt manage to use it to read and edit a great amount of gnumeric spreadsheets I must process.

I then tried to see if I could find gnumeric listed in the packages that can be downloaded by EasyOS. But I didn't find it there either.

So, without some help I won't be able to use EasyOS to read or write a great number of .gnumeric files that are currently being built by operating systems who still do use gnumeric as a spreadsheet.

DanielSong39 wrote:
Is it possible to install abiword or gnumeric?
I noticed that Quirky dropped support for these two programs past version 8.0, and I was wondering whether it was the same story for EasyOS.
Thank you for the tip.

Thank you both for your time.
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Aug 2018, 03:23    Post subject: gnumeric
Subject description: libre office
 

Hi Antipodal,

why do you not transform your Gnumeric-spreadsheets into *.ods files via the option 'save as'. This way you easily could use your spreadsheets in EasyOs. To transform the files, almost any Puppy does.

I'm aware that I do not propose a very elegant method, but it's a simple workaround.

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Aug 2018, 07:49    Post subject:  

Hello Antipodal

Yes, I did not quite understand the problem you have.

Have you tried to install Gnumeric on your Easy, as DanielSong39 suggested?
What version of Easy are you using? I may try it myself and report.

OTOH, why do you not use a regular Puppy (tahr, xenial, stretch, slacko ... )?
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Aug 2018, 09:35    Post subject: Re: gnumeric
Subject description: libre office
 

lp-dolittle wrote:
Hi Antipodal,

why do you not transform your Gnumeric-spreadsheets into *.ods files via the option 'save as'.


Thank you for your time and idea but...

Before my first post I had already tried to do that.
It doesn't work because the 'save as' option in the *.gnumeric files are not accessible because I can't open the files without .gnumeric.

And a simple change of the extension in the file manager (from *.gnumeric to *.ods) doesn't work because the file with the new extension won't open directly with LibreOffice.

Instead of opening it, it calls (opens) a "Text Import Configuration" window that ends freezing the computer when i try to manage it.

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Aug 2018, 11:02    Post subject: gnumeric
Subject description: EasyOS
 

Hi Antipodal,

you should transform the Gnumeric-files into the *.odf-format in the OS which you used so far, and which obviously was able to run Gnumeric.

Just open the files with Gnumeric, save them via the 'save as'-option, and - as a result - you will have your files available in both formats. You can work with these files in Libre Office, and - if need be - later re-use them with Gnumeric. I'm sure, sooner or later, Gnumeric will also be available in EasyOS

In case you have no longer access to your previous OS, transform your files using a conventional Puppy.

kind regards

again

Hi Antipodal,

meanwhile. I had a look at LibreOffice.Calc in the recent EasyOS, just to discover that Gnumeric-spreadsheets can be directly opened/imported.

Start LibreOffice.Calc, go to 'File' > 'open' > 'All files', and then scroll down until you reach the Gnumeric-option. Everything seems to work fine. I had no problems when I tested this procedure after I had copied a Gnumeric-file onto a flash-stick.

I hope this information helps to resolve your 'problem'!

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Aug 2018, 12:35    Post subject:  

Hi Antipodal,

Gnumeric is still part of Xenialpup 7.5. There is a gnumeric coomandline utility ssconvert that will convert spreadsheet files to different formats. I copied the following to Easy 0.9.5 and it runs.I believe it will convert .gnumeric to .xls or .ods but I haven't tried yet.

/usr/bin/ssconvert
/usr/lib/libspreadsheet.1.10.17.so
/usr/lib/libgoffice-0.8.so.8.0.17

You need a symlink /usr/lib/libgoffice-0.8.so.8 ->
/usr/lib/libgoffice-0.8.so.8.0.17

I had a quick look but don't see an easy way to compile ssconvert separately from gnumeric.
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Aug 2018, 00:44    Post subject:  

Many posts above that I have not yet read, as have been working on improving EasyShare. Will get onto them soon.

The latest EasyShare deserves a new release, 0.9.6, plus there are some bug fixes here and there.

Blog announcement:

http://bkhome.org/news/201808/easyos-version-096-released.html

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Aug 2018, 04:37    Post subject: gnumeric
Subject description: Antipodal's problem
 

Hi Cu Chulinux,

as it seems, you do not need to compile 'ssconvert' in order to resolve Antipodal's problem.

The LibreOffice Calc in EasyOS Pyro 0.9.5 is able to deal with Gnumeric-files.

Yesterday, I successfully tested this option and reported about, but Antipodal, so far, did not respond to the last post.

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