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ntamas

Joined: 17 Aug 2018
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PostPosted: Fri 17 Aug 2018, 05:51    Post subject:  

The Linux installer shown on the image is an old version.
Last actual linux installer version: (Latest version): 0.2.4.
But this is also unavailable, see the original but error message link now.
https://linux.palemoon.org/installer-release-notes/

Install the new v28 version manually, before you retrieve the old version's profile directory, then install the new version with a completely clean installation.
Sorry, bad englis ..
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norgo


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PostPosted: Fri 17 Aug 2018, 08:50    Post subject:  

ntamas from skami linux forum ?

welcome Wink
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jss83

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Aug 2018, 08:57    Post subject:  

You mean manually like shown here? http://linux.palemoon.org/help/installation/

I am pretty sure I'd mess up the whole thing, this is why I always used the installer. I am just going to use the current version which I have installed as long as I can without any problems. Looking for alternatives already.

I don't know why would they remove the installer when it was working perfectly, even if the new version would update itself. At-least let the installer be used to install/update to latest version.
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a_salty_dogg


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PostPosted: Fri 17 Aug 2018, 10:45    Post subject:  

jss83 wrote:

I am pretty sure I'd mess up the whole thing


There's nothing to it (even I can do it! Wink ).

Just download the tarball from here, making sure you choose the correct version for your OS (32 bit or 64 bit), then extract it over your existing Palemoon directory, normally to be found in "/opt".

If you're replacing the directory with another one of identical name, it shouldn't affect any existing menus, desktop links, or launch buttons you have set up.

Though in this one case it sounds like, before updating to version 28.0.0, you firstly need to copy your existing config directory, to be found at "~/.moonchild productions", to a different safe location (possibly also do the same with the Palemoon directory to avoid having to find and download it again if needed). Otherwise you'd never be able to revert to a 27.x.x version with all your personal settings intact if you ever wanted or needed to.

Note that the browser needs to be closed while performing any of the above copying operations.

Whole process only takes a couple of minutes!

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rockedge


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PostPosted: Fri 17 Aug 2018, 11:10    Post subject:  

yes it is easy......I renamed /opt/palemoon to /opt/palemoon-27

then downloaded the tarball extracted to /opt and that's it.

all the menu and defaultbrowser icon work still.

I didn't even save/copy the /root/.moonchild productions

the installer program will not work anymore and is deprecated
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jss83

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Aug 2018, 11:26    Post subject:    

That worked ! Very Happy Backed up the profile but it didn't need restoring. And it now has an update button in the about palemoon window. So will it update using that in the future or would I need to download and extract the tarball whenever a new update gets released?
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ntamas

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Aug 2018, 12:01    Post subject:  

jss83 wrote:
I am pretty sure I'd mess up the whole thing, this is why I always used the installer. I am just going to use the current version which I have installed as long as I can without any problems. Looking for alternatives already.

The problem is I can see that the new version uses a slightly different profile library - fewer the number of files - so I think the intaller script for the old version is no longer good for the newer version.
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ntamas

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Aug 2018, 12:19    Post subject:  

norgo wrote:
ntamas from skami linux forum ?

welcome Wink


Yes, norgo, I'm from the skamilinux site.
Greetings to everyone.
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rockedge


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PostPosted: Fri 17 Aug 2018, 12:50    Post subject:  

jss83 wrote:
And it now has an update button in the about palemoon window.


Yes! use that button...you will not need to download the next tarball ....


ntamas wrote:
so I think the intaller script for the old version is no longer good for the newer version.


Yes, the separate updater program is now obsolete for the new palemoon
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a_salty_dogg


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PostPosted: Fri 17 Aug 2018, 13:36    Post subject:  

jss83 wrote:
Backed up the profile but it didn't need restoring.


No, you'd only ever need to restore that backed up profile if you ever decided, for any reason, to revert to version 27, since from version 28 onwards, as I understand it, the "profile format" has been changed.
That was just a one-off, peace of mind, measure, in case you come across any bugs or sites the new version doesn't want to play nicely with, sadly not unheard of in the world of browser updates!
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Fri 17 Aug 2018, 14:22    Post subject:  

The newest version of Palemoon seems to require some high demands for hardware.
I hope they are not going down the same hardware road as Firefox.

Quote:
Latest release: 28.0.0
Pale Moon is specifically optimized for current-day processors and as such requires a reasonably modern system to run properly.

A modern Linux distribution. The browser may not work well on old or LTS releases of Linux.
A modern processor (must have SSE2 support as the absolute minimum).
1GB of RAM (2GB or more recommended for heavy use).
GTK+ v2.24
GLib 2.22 or higher
Pango 1.14 or higher
libstdc++ 4.6.1 or higher

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watchdog

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Aug 2018, 14:42    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
The newest version of Palemoon seems to require some high demands for hardware.
I hope they are not going down the same hardware road as Firefox.


I usually open 40-50 tabs at once: palemoon 28.0.0 is much slower than 27.9.4. I have an old celeron cpu with 1,5 Gb of RAM. However palemoon is faster than current firefox.
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greengeek


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PostPosted: Sat 18 Aug 2018, 03:25    Post subject:  

watchdog wrote:
However palemoon is faster than current firefox.
Firefox users would benefit from reading in detail the following link:
https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-08-15-mozilla-firefox-goes-all-in-for-evil-pushes-corporate-news-collusion-to-silence-independent-media.html
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ntamas

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Aug 2018, 05:36    Post subject:  

greengeek wrote:
Firefox users ...


You could argue, but it is unnecessary because the article does not give any concrete details. The more unnecessary imaginations and vague references to Firefox being played by the big brother and searching for it in your private life.
We do not ask for imagination, but only actual, concrete things, mistakes and their exact description of articles.
You should know the virtues of each browser and its possible mistakes, and having this in mind, you should use them properly.
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jss83

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Aug 2018, 11:10    Post subject:  

Been using it since yesterday and everything seems to be working fine, except the downthemall extension.

Thanks to @ntamas, @a_salty_dogg, @rockedge
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