X-Slacko Slim 4.4r49 (unique, stable, and flexible)

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Sage · #881 Post by **Sage** » Mon 03 Sep 2018, 08:54

There may be another possibility. Reading today's DWW, Jesse remarks in relation to his Redcore review: "When attempting to run Redcore on my desktop computer, the distribution was unable to boot at all in Legacy BIOS mode." He also had a few problems with UEFI, but did get a screen show. UEFI was originally (yet another) M$ ploy in combo with manufacturers to (i) deal another blow to Linux (ii) eliminate the remaining rotating machinery in favour of all-ss. Some of these aspirations may well be laudable, but the impetus was $$$-driven by casting off perfectly reliable and adequate HW to landfill. Bit like the modern motor car - stuffed full of electronics, {kiddie with a powerful electromagnet could destroy the lot!} when all one needs is a steering wheel, accelerator, gearstick and a brake. Excuse the diversion but the question for misty is: are you working from an UEFI machine? Best testbed for your magnum opus has to be something you picked out of a skip/dumpster, at least 10-15yrs of age (the old ones are always the best!).

johnywhy · #882 Post by **johnywhy** » Mon 03 Sep 2018, 18:33

Sage wrote:Best testbed for your magnum opus has to be something you picked out of a skip/dumpster, at least 10-15yrs of age (the old ones are always the best!).

Awesome comment!

mistfire · #883 Post by **mistfire** » Tue 04 Sep 2018, 22:45

Hello I found out some flaws on sns and I fixed it. I noticed that it uses mac address matching. That process was pointless for me so I removed that rountine. sns was lack of setting static ip and DNS and Im thinking on how to implement it on sns.

mistfire · #884 Post by **mistfire** » Fri 14 Sep 2018, 01:48

New X-Slacko Slim iteration released

Changes:
* Improved Simple Network Setup. The selected network interfaces has now the option to use DHCP or Set static IP.
* PPM can translate tazpkg install and remove scripts
* Some bugfixes

Download:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cvq0fF ... sp=sharing

MD5 Checksum: d35201c2c61dc82291c80320934d7fa2

Sage · #885 Post by **Sage** » Sun 16 Sep 2018, 11:28

Afraid it's another dud, misty. On three out of four machines, it will boot to the ISOLINUX header, sometimes the disc light still flashes, but mostly it just stops, although my trusty 32bit machine did the courtesy of cyclic hard resets. Like I said, if you really want to get some traction for your excellently conceived project, it'd be best to get some different machinery and stick to CD .iso with BIOS booting because the choice with modern UEFI, SD & USB HW have so much choice of distros and diagnosis systems, there may not be a useful market for your present offerings?

clerk_gabel · #886 Post by **clerk_gabel** » Sun 16 Sep 2018, 21:08

With the sept. 13 slacko-slim-4.4r22.iso burned to CD there was fast boot up on Intel Celeron single core 1,5Ghz and Win7 Asus F7L dual core 2008 laptops, on a Toshiba Satellite L360 dual core laptop boot up halts after "not found "puppy_....sfs". A menu with option for saving error log then pop up (

).The Satellite is equipped with -SCSI Disks- ATA WDC WD3200BEVT-0 PIONEER DVD-RW DVRTD08A. A frugal install on the Celeron works with OK Wi-Fi / browser / Puppy Package Manager etc.

Billtoo · #887 Post by **Billtoo** » Sun 16 Sep 2018, 22:14

I installed to a 16gb SDHC card, computer is an Acer Revo nettop:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sun 16 Sep 2018 on X-Slacko Slim 4.4 Linux 4.17.6-slim32 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation ION VGA (rev b1)

X Server: Xorg Driver: nouveau
X.Org version: 1.14.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.1.7

Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz
Core 0: @1599 1: @1599 2: @1599 3: @1599 MHz

Haven't tested much yet, computer is connected to a 32" TV via hdmi
cable, don't have sound via hdmi yet so using external speakers.

That's it so far,
Thanks.

mistfire · #888 Post by **mistfire** » Mon 17 Sep 2018, 08:58

@clark_gabel I check the debug file that you submitted. It looks that the optical drive on your machine that you booted from does not find what kind filesystem is. Thats why it does not boot from CD drive. I make some tweaks on probepart to fix that error.

mistfire · #889 Post by **mistfire** » Tue 25 Sep 2018, 04:11

New X-Slacko Slim iteration released

Changes
* bugfixes on probepart command (both initrd and main sfs)

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/12qsxaQ ... sp=sharing

MD5 Checksum: f81b065643df945102eb51b185f13aa6

clerk_gabel · #890 Post by **clerk_gabel** » Wed 26 Sep 2018, 15:22

When burned to CD and not finalised the latest iteration of X-Slacko works fine on a Dell dual core intel laptop, but again no boot and instead splash screen for saving logfile on the Toshiba Satellite. To me it seems as if similar problems are general to many Puppy flavours, not only X-Slacko. As operating system Puppy works great (browser, thunderbird, wordprocessor etc.) but the unreliable boot up from CD / USB of Puppy unfortunately spoils (no secure way for restoring backup).

mistfire · #891 Post by **mistfire** » Thu 27 Sep 2018, 06:35

@clerk_gabel it seems that base from your log. The filesystem on your cd drive in toshiba computer cannot determine. Can you please try to boot the pristine X-Slacko to check if will work on your toshiba computer?

clerk_gabel · #892 Post by **clerk_gabel** » Thu 27 Sep 2018, 08:24

mistfire - when burned and booted from CD the original X-Slacko 4.4 downloaded from

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88846

will not boot on the Toshiba - no boot from CD - a blinking cursor until my usual blue HDD boot manager takes over (installed on HDD is Slacko 6.3.2). My best guess is that some entrances in kernel .config has to be modified (fifo options etc).

mistfire · #893 Post by **mistfire** » Thu 27 Sep 2018, 10:14

@clerk_gabel may I know what puplets that works on your toshiba laptop using CD?

clerk_gabel · #894 Post by **clerk_gabel** » Fri 28 Sep 2018, 02:06

The Toshiba is a former Vista laptop where Slacko 6.3.2 has been installed to HDD via CD. Slackware and Salix has formerly been installed and the computer boots up Linux Format Magazine DVD and a Linux rescue CD from www.system-rescue-cd.org. The boot manager works with a menu from where 3 different kernels can be booted.
Recently the Slacko 6.3.2 CD has stopped to boot and using USB the error "cannot find ...sfs" is thrown. Slacko 5.7.1. and X-Slacko has never worked. The Linux rescue CD include a partition imaging tool for backup so I stick to otherwise nice Puppy on this secondary laptop, where I for work will prefer my win7 machine.
But Slackware, Salix, rescue CD and everything else except Puppy works on the Toshiba Satellite.

mistfire · #895 Post by **mistfire** » Fri 28 Sep 2018, 04:07

@clerk_gabel I think the problem lies on your CD drive device in your toshiba laptop. Can you tell me the name and model of the CD drive installed in your toshiba laptop?

clerk_gabel · #896 Post by **clerk_gabel** » Fri 28 Sep 2018, 09:54

mistfire - here specifications:

-SCSI Disks-
ATA WDC WD3200BEVT-0
PIONEER DVD-RW DVRTD08A
CD/DVD: sr0
===========
/dev/sr0: ATAPI CD-ROM, with removable media Model Number: DVD-RW DVRTD08A Standards: Likely used CD-ROM ATAPI-1

I burned tahr 6.0.6 to my last CD and no-boot of this puppy neither.The Toshiba Satellite is apparently a Puppy no go / Windows go-go machine. I will in a few days be off for job for several months in remote areas and must take with me the Win7 machine. From the magazine DVD two live systems (Kali and Bunsenlab) starts. Respect for your long standing efforts - sincerely -cg.

Sage · #897 Post by **Sage** » Sat 29 Sep 2018, 07:02

With respect, misty, I think we need to know what equipment you are using (possibly what you were using a couple of years back, too?), not least because I certainly cannot get any of your last half-dozen releases to boot on around a dozen different machines.

mistfire · #898 Post by **mistfire** » Sun 30 Sep 2018, 15:12

@Sage

Here is the hardwares that I used to make and test X-Slacko Slim
IBM/Lenovo Thinkcentre desktop (2016-2017)
Neo Basic Netbook (2016-present)
Acer Laptop (present)
Virtual Box (for testing iso images)
Samsung USB CD Drive (for testing physical cd boot and multisession mode)

Right now Im expermenting on an initrd with multiple init scripts. It means the user can choose what init is used to boot puppy whether pre woof, early woof, or woof-ce boot init.

Sage · #899 Post by **Sage** » Wed 03 Oct 2018, 07:28

Ah ha! That explains it all. Nothing there that merits a slim Slacko! Suggest (again) that you pick some ancient kit, maybe starting with a 585, from your nearest skip/dumpster. Friends and neighbours will gladly unload their elderly kit gratis, possibly even pay you to take it away. Certainly, nothing with more than a single core, BIOS and =/< 1Gb mem, rotating HD. That's where the real value of this project accrues - RoW with too many £££/EEE/$$$ burning holes in their pockets having nothing to worry about - there's a plethora of bang up-to-date mega distros for them to choose, and, if they're not working for them, just pop out and buy another of the latest incarnations. And don't forget to cast yesterday's machine in the landfill to poison your grandchildren...

mistfire · #900 Post by **mistfire** » Fri 05 Oct 2018, 23:37

@Sage the hardware support was really depend on the linux kernel. Linux OS is just a software collection or bundle using linux kernel to run them. So I try to configure the kernel to support old hardwares as wide as possible as well as the modern ones which stands in the middle to improve flexibility

@clark_gabel I got an idea to boot X-Slacko Slim to boot from cd. Try to copy the sfs files at the root folder of your hard drive then boot X-Slacko Slim from CD. If does not work try to use pmedia=atahd boot parameter but dont delete the sfs files in your hard drive. If Im not mistaken, the init script of X-Slacko Slim searches for sfs files in every partition of the drive and try to load it. I wonder if it will works on other puppy's.

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