Unclosable Seamonkey Window

[vtpup]

Okay, just had it happen again with Adblock Plus ver 2.9.1 as the ONLY extension present. Trying to duplicate it, to make sure, but it hasn't recurred after 30 tries. Will continue.

ps. Adblock plus is NOT available for Seamonkey any more, so seems a likely candidate. the extension is dated 10/6/2017

[vtpup]

Disabled Adblock Plus.
Enabled NoScript 5

The problem occurred again this morning. I was able to take screenshots of the window itself, and Htop while it was running. I'm not able to upload them, here, apparently.

What they show is, the window is not full screen in size (desktop wallpaper is showing around edges) And the window title bar is missing.

1.) This window cannot be moved by any of the suggested methods I've tried.
2.) This window can be resized by grabbing the lower right corner handle and stretching or shrinking.
3.) The upper tool bar in this window does not work (ie. clicking on View, or Tools does nothing).
4.) Other browser features do work -- tabs work, entered URLs work.
5.) This window is present in all 3 desktops.
6.) This window stays on top of any other programs opened, but TAB +ALT DOES allow changing focus to those other programs.

Next step (since the problem occurred with two different extensions operating separately) is to, per earlier suggestion, replace the present Tahrpup (which was upgraded by service packs) with a new full 6.0.5 Tahrpup version from the ibiblio repository.

[OscarTalks]

You should be able to upload screenshots to this forum.
If they are too big, use mtpaint to reduce them in pixel size (width of 600 should be fine) and also file size if need be.

I am still not clear what is actually displayed in these windows. Some web page? Which one? Always the same or different each time?

Sounds like the browser is trying to display something which is a bit malware-ish with dodgy code.

I am also still not clear if you have fully tried the method described earlier:-
Press and hold the Alt key
Also press and hold the left click mouse button anywhere in the middle of the window (not the edges as you keep talking about) and then drag the whole window so that the top title bar comes into view.

[vtpup]

OscarTalks, thanks.

I do know about reducing pixel sizes, however If I click on "Allowed Extensions and Sizes" immediately below this post while composing, it says:

Images -> Maximum Upload Size: 0 Bytes
gif, jpeg, jpg, png, tga, tif, xpm

I obviously can't upload an image of zero bytes.

re. the issue: The page displayed is whatever the last current URL was displaying when the browser was last closed. That's due to a normal setting in Seamonkey. Sorry, there is no consistency to which page causes it. The last page it happened on was a Wkipedia page -- that's in my screenshot if I can find out how to post it here.

I agree the worry for me was that it seemed possibly malware-ish, or dodgy code but the sites visited on the tabs shown in the screenshot are all legit sites : this forum, mozilla, wikipedia, startpage, and the add-ons manager. Ironically I had just finished researching this very problem last night. Reopening Seamonkey this morning with those tabs active caused the issue.

I'm sorry I was not clearer when I said in an earlier post I had tried all the left and right clicking and Windows key suggestions I received. In answer here, I did specifically test holding down the ALT key, left clicking, and dragging the window. It had no effect. I also did the same later with a "normal" Seamonkey window, and it worked fine.

As a point of interest now, btw, the last time it happened, the window was located lower on the screen. The window title bar was clearly missing. Not just obscured bythe top of the screen. I originally thought the problem was one of being obscured, not missing altogether. Obviously, moving the window would not solve this problem, and the behavior in other ways says this isn't an ordinary window. The appearance across 3 desktops simultaneously is one clear example.

[vtpup]

I have now removed the old Tahrpup 6.0 (upgraded to 6.0.5) files and replaced them with a new set of Tahrpup 6.0.5 files in my frugal installation.

On startup I accepted upgrading the Tahrsave file. The system is now up and being used.

[Makoto]

OscarTalks, thanks.

I do know about reducing pixel sizes, however If I click on "Allowed Extensions and Sizes" immediately below this post while composing, it says:

Images -> Maximum Upload Size: 0 Bytes
gif, jpeg, jpg, png, tga, tif, xpm

I obviously can't upload an image of zero bytes.

I believe that just means there is no maximum upload size, really (but use your better judgment, of course - please don't upload images upward of 10-20MB, for example).

An alternative is to use an image-hosting site and imbed the images into your post. Here's an (old) example from my imgur gallery:

[vtpup]

Well I guess the lesson is, don't believe everything you read.

The zero bytes is incorrect, but unlimited is also incorrect. Apparently 256K is the limit.

No problem (except you guys trying to read it) .....sized to fit.

[vtpup]

One thing I notice in the HTop screenshot is the user "messagebus". Doesn't seem right.

It's not present now that I've replaced the upgraded Tahrpup files with new Tahrpup 6.0.5.

[tallboy]

I have the same messagebus reference in my htop in Lucid 5.2.8.7, and most other items in the htop list are the same. But I have /usr/lib/gconf2-4/gconfd-2, you have /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconf/gconf-2. Is that a default setup, or have you made any modifications?

[vtpup]

tallboy,

It may be the default, I don't know -- I never purposefully changed it. Although a program or Tahr update may have. It remains after the present change.

However, the folder i386-linux-gnu/ is just a symbolic link to ./ so really the reference is to /usr/lib/gconf/gconfd-2

btw, the messagebus user seems to be back now. Though I haven't had a repeat of the rogue window problem, yet.