Bionicpup64 8.0 CE

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bigpup · #201 Post by **bigpup** » Tue 23 Oct 2018, 00:57

corvus wrote:
bigpup wrote: On my laptop computer (HP Chromebook 14) the touchpad is working.
However, mouse/keyboard wizard>Touchpad
Get message
couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded
So, I can make no touchpad adjustments.
Some time ago I found the following solution on our forum but I do not remember exactly where. Edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf removing the # symbol from the beginning of the following lines:
Section "Module"
# Load "synaptics" #loadsynaptics
and
Section "ServerLayout"
# InputDevice "Synaptics Mouse" "AlwaysCore" #serverlayoutsynaptics
add the following section:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptics Mouse"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "SHMConfig" "on"
EndSection
Restart.

Thanks for this!
That worked very well.
mouse/keyboard wizard>Touchpad now working!!

666philb · #202 Post by **666philb** » Wed 24 Oct 2018, 20:00

thanks for all the reports, new iso uploaded on first post

changes...

latest woof fixes ...wdlkmpx
kernel updated to 4.18.15
roxfiler updated... woodenshoe-wi
eudev now populates xorg.conf so touchscreens will hopefully work ...Revolverve
modesetting driver now has glamour acceleration (still rubbish though)
drive icons should hopefully now line up properly & also refreshed on reboot
pmcputemp fix ...ozsouth
remaster should now work properly ....fixed in woofce by wdlkmpx
fdisk added ...etp
ubuntus hardinfo added ...etp
mpv starts centered ...etp
removed ninvaders game
added sunfish chess (always wanted a tiny chess game)
added sfrs yahtzeez
added primrose puzzle game
mhwavedit updated
quickpet fixes
clawsmail tray icon on as default
xsane help fixed
Florence removed & xvkbd added .... Revolverve
added Realtek RTL8821CE wifi kernel module ....zigbert

sheldonisaac · #203 Post by **sheldonisaac** » Wed 24 Oct 2018, 22:03

666philb (in part) wrote:thanks for all the reports, new iso uploaded on first post

Many thanks, 666philb!
Boots and saves perfectly. It was easy to make the little changes I like, to the tray, etc.
Thanks again,
Sheldon

ozsouth · #204 Post by **ozsouth** » Wed 24 Oct 2018, 22:50

excellent.

Billtoo · #205 Post by **Billtoo** » Wed 24 Oct 2018, 23:01

I installed to a 32GB SDHC card, pc is an Acer desktop:

Did basic setup and created save file.
Compiled proprietary Nvidia driver, it complained of an incomplete file (forget name) and gave
options to abort or overwrite and continue, I chose overwrite and continue.
Updated PPM and installed some applications.
Installed Chromium Browser with Quickpet, works well.
Compiled MC-4.8.21

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Wed 24 Oct 2018 on bionicpup64 7.9.6 Linux 4.18.15 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v1p1 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.19.6
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (707x392 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.87

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Core 0: @1596 1: @1596 2: @1606 3: @1608 MHz

Haven't got Smplayer working properly yet so using Vlc with Smtube.
Kodi works well.

That's it so far,
Thanks for the new beta.
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EDIT: I got smtube working with mpv.
Also: Using 32" TV as monitor, audio+video via HDMI

bigpup · #206 Post by **bigpup** » Thu 25 Oct 2018, 00:22

This is a problem with Puppy Universal Installer in all Puppy latest versions and probably older ones, too.

I have a USB hard drive that the Universal Installer cannot see.

Pup-sysinfo shows it as a SCSI drive.

Host=scsi4 Channel=00 Id=00 Lun=00
Vendor=Seagate
Model=Expansion+, Rev=0706
Type=Direct-Access

Not listed in USB drives.

However, I have another installer program that has no problem doing installs on this drive.
YaPI
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107601

Just another optional program if you are having the same problem doing installs.

mikeslr · #207 Post by **mikeslr** » Thu 25 Oct 2018, 02:53

Hi All,

After checking that nothing installed into the SaveFile under the prior beta wasn't duplicated or would conflict with changes, I moved the system files and copied the SaveFile into a folder --you never know if you'll have to revert-- mounted the new ISO and copied its system files into the Bionicpup64 folder identified on grub4dos' menu.lst. Booted into it, consenting to upgrade the SaveFile. All went well. The only adjustment I had to make was the default Wallpaper was displayed rather than the one I prefer.

Of special note: Only after moving the prior beta's system files did I realize I was still running the prior beta. I had intended to boot into it only to check for possible conflicts. My practice has been to boot into a different Puppy before making system file replacements, i.e. upgrades. It should be noted that my computer has 8 Gbs of RAM and I had copied rather than moved the SaveFile. In other words, my "operating system in RAM" did not have to access files in storage, other than perhaps those in the SaveFile during the upgrade process.

Terry H · #208 Post by **Terry H** » Thu 25 Oct 2018, 03:23

New frugal install on Dell Core i3-5005U on SanDisk USB Flash Drive.

Battery Percentage is now shown as 100% rather than incorrect 123%.

CPU Temp is now displayed more accurately on this laptop than previous default setting, however on my desktop with AMD FX 6100 CPU, the Temp is shown incorrectly as fluctuating around 10 deg C, the ambient indoor temp is 20 C. The desktop had previously displayed correct CPU temperature on the previous bionicpup64 release. I don't know whether changing from pmcputemp to pcmpucurt, is a positive move at present.

Sound took some extra playing with to get working. I got the Sound card wizard to play the sound after getting the default to be PCH, but still had no sound from deadbeef with local mp3 files or palemoon. Sound worked playing mp3 with mpv. I changed the deadbeef preferences from default audio device to the second entry in the list for HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog Default Audio device. After changing the deadbeef setting, somehow sound decided to also work in palemoon also. The Function Keys F1, F2, F3 which previously worked for sound, no longer work in the current beta release.

ozsouth · #209 Post by **ozsouth** » Thu 25 Oct 2018, 05:01

@Terry H - your AMD cpu probably just a bit old for the k10temp module. If you edit /usr/bin/pmcpucurt.sh, replacing all (3) k10temp with k8temp, then restart window manager, will probably work. Would love you to test that, as I don't have many machines to test with.

bigpup · #210 Post by **bigpup** » Thu 25 Oct 2018, 10:29

Bionicpup64 7.9.6

666philb wrote:added sunfish chess (always wanted a tiny chess game)

That is a little too simple.
In Puppy Package Manager(PPM)
Downloaded and installed Brutalchess
PPM showed it as a 2mb download.

It is 3d and click and point to make a move.
You play the computer.

ESC key will bring up the main menu. From here you can set different options, start a new
game or exit the application. To navigate back from submenus and return to the
game just use ESC.

it is possible to rotate the camera angle with the right mouse
button. When you don't already have a piece selected, press and hold the right
mouse button and move the camera to rotate the view and then release it.

This is what gets installed.
It is not much.

Code: Select all

/usr/games/brutalchess
/usr/share/applications/brutalchess.desktop
/usr/share/doc/brutalchess
/usr/share/games/brutalchess
/usr/share/games/brutalchess/art/brutalchesslogo.png
/usr/share/man/man6/brutalchess.6.gz
/usr/share/menu/brutalchess
/usr/share/pixmaps/brutalchess.xpm
/var/packages/brutalchess_0.5.2+dfsg-7.files

artsown · #211 Post by **artsown** » Thu 25 Oct 2018, 12:55

Fresh frugal on hard drive of 7.9.6
Test computer is a dell desktop Dimension E510. This machine does not
provide cpu temp sensors, yet pmcputemp displays a constant 32 degrees
in the bottom tray.

Psync is working well.

Memory usage is still relatively high compared to Fatdog 721, Xenialpup64
7.5 and Tahrpup64 6.0.6 My tests on this computer using only one gig
ram plus one gig swap suggested that more than 1 gig ram is required,
especially with "heavy" browsers instead of "light".

Art

zigbert · #212 Post by **zigbert** » Thu 25 Oct 2018, 16:03

Test 7.9.6 on Lenovo yoga 530
AMD Ryzen 5 2500u
Pristine frugal install

Thanks for the included Realtek RTL8821CE wifi kernel module. Sorry to say, the device was not detected. Is there anything I can test/do?

I thought the newer kernel would have positive effect on the graphical experience... But it hasn't... It sometimes loads into X, sometimes not. When reaching X, the system freezes after minutes (sometimes seconds).
It uses the ati driver, and I wonder if I should try the AMD proprietary driver? The problem is that I can't connect to the web, so I have to somehow include it into my usb-pendrive that I boot from. Secondly, I have to force Puppy to use it during boot. Can I do that in xorgwizard?

Neither the touchpad nor the touchscreen works.

Thanks for any help

Terry H · #213 Post by **Terry H** » Thu 25 Oct 2018, 17:30

ozsouth wrote:@Terry H - your AMD cpu probably just a bit old for the k10temp module. If you edit /usr/bin/pmcpucurt.sh, replacing all (3) k10temp with k8temp, then restart window manager, will probably work. Would love you to test that, as I don't have many machines to test with.

Changed as requested. Initially it appeared OK when checked against PupSysInfo it was displaying what was the same as pmcputemp.sh had previously shown, which was temp1 it8772 reading, however over time the reading in PupsysInfo increased and fluctuates when checked, but the CPU Temp in the Tray has remained static at the initial value of 32.

torgo · #214 Post by **torgo** » Thu 25 Oct 2018, 17:37

bigpup wrote:
I had done some testing of Ubuntu Mate 18.4.1, so I had it installed all by itself on a SSD drive. With no other hard drives on the system, I tried a frugal install of 7.9.5 on this same drive.
The screen shows:

wee 0> find --set-root /grldr
(0x80,0)
wee 0> /grldr
wee 13>
This is a bug in Grub4dos not being able to handle ext4 64bit format.
Ubuntu Mate 18.4.1 probably formatted the SSD drive partition ext4 64bit.
Ext4 64bit is used now by a lot of newer Linux OS's.

Here is more info and some info on ways to get around this:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=111376
If you change the format of the drive partition to ext4 32bit, Grub4dos should work.
The Gparted in Puppy only makes ext4 32bit format.

Thanks, bigpup!

I guess the easiest approach is just to go with the GRUB2 used by Ubuntu and add various Frugal Pups to the 40_custom file in the grub.d folder. Probably also best to make a separate partition for Pups and other stuff, keeping them out of the Ubuntu partition.

znekk · #215 Post by **znekk** » Thu 25 Oct 2018, 20:15

Hello all,

This is just a quick report to say that everything works as expected basically on a frugal install to a usb drive.
I noticed some sound distortions with the first iso, but now this seems to be resolved for me, it might have been the kernel?
I also updated palemoon to the latest, no problems with that. Running with an I3-2140 and 8GB of ram the pup is flying!

Thank you very much for the hard work, to all the Puppy community.

zigbert · #216 Post by **zigbert** » Thu 25 Oct 2018, 20:45

7.9.6
It seems the charset is limited in cli.
Can't remember this from earlier versions.

ozsouth · #217 Post by **ozsouth** » Thu 25 Oct 2018, 22:17

@Terry H - thankyou for testing cpu temperature. No k8temp in the output. Just running sensors in a terminal should give the same output. Need to determine which sensor is actively monitoring temp & use it. Mick's original didn't do that either. Could read it, apply a burst to CPU & read again, to pick up changes, but don't like to do that to folks CPU's. That means several different possibilities. I've worked on 2 angles - sensor & path. There are 2 main paths so a changed pmcpucurt.sh, checking those paths would do for now.
Here's a pet to test. For other folk, ONLY try this if current pmcpucurt NOT working.

bigpup · #218 Post by **bigpup** » Fri 26 Oct 2018, 00:47

artsown wrote:Memory usage is still relatively high compared to Fatdog 721, Xenialpup64
7.5 and Tahrpup64 6.0.6 My tests on this computer using only one gig
ram plus one gig swap suggested that more than 1 gig ram is required,
especially with "heavy" browsers instead of "light".

Art

What are you using to measure ram usage?
Pup-Sysinfo>Devices>Memory gives the best information.
Actual Used RAM:
Actual Free RAM:

RAM set aside for buffers and cached is not actually in use, until something needs it.

Terry H · #219 Post by **Terry H** » Fri 26 Oct 2018, 01:20

ozsouth wrote:@Terry H - thankyou for testing cpu temperature. No k8temp in the output. Just running sensors in a terminal should give the same output. Need to determine which sensor is actively monitoring temp & use it. Mick's original didn't do that either. Could read it, apply a burst to CPU & read again, to pick up changes, but don't like to do that to folks CPU's. That means several different possibilities. I've worked on 2 angles - sensor & path. There are 2 main paths so a changed pmcpucurt.sh, checking those paths would do for now.
Here's a pet to test. For other folk, ONLY try this if current pmcpucurt NOT working.

At present I'll have to wait to run this tomorrow.

ozsouth · #220 Post by **ozsouth** » Fri 26 Oct 2018, 02:09

Update 1 for pmcpucurt - not essential, but expands options & simplifies amendments. Some still may need 2path pet instead.
See: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 96#1008196

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