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How to adjust Acer Travelmate touchpad in Xenialpup?(Solved)
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number77

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Nov 2018, 14:07    Post subject:  

With clickpad=0, functionality was lost everywhere.
No hurry for me here.
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number77

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Nov 2018, 10:31    Post subject:  

Update on touchpad problems:
I have given the Acer to my partner and she uses windows. Win 10 still has some problems with the touchpad, its a rotten idea realy, no dedicated mouse buttons.
Thank you greengeek for all your effort on this problem, as a spin off I have learnt alot about the control of the touchpad for future use. I am sorry to hear of your family problems and hope they are resolving.
All the best number77
P.S.
Thanks Mike Walsh and Mikeslr also.
I know this is the easy way out.
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greengeek


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Nov 2018, 13:54    Post subject:  

Sorry to be late back - I did find some info that I think could be useful for anyone having this same issue of mouse jumping around when making mouseclicks or tapping on clickpads.

See this thread:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/128023/how-do-i-configure-the-touchpad-so-that-the-cursor-doesnt-move-when-i-click

It suggests a couple of changes you could try within the synclient settings:

Quote:
If you are using synclient, you might try to increase the FingerLow value.
here is how I did with my computer:

Code:
synclient | grep FingerLow
    FingerLow      = 30
synclient FingerLow=35

Note that FingerLow cannot be higher than FingerHigh. So change this value as well if needed.

And also:
Quote:
After digging through the available options to synclient it would seem that
Code:
Option "HorizHysteresis" "40"
Option "VertHysteresis" "40"

effectively prevents the pointer from "skipping" when I click.


And from this other thread:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/127829/synaptics-touchpad-cursor-moves-around-when-just-tapped-after-ubuntu-12-04-u

One poster said use:
Code:
synclient FingerLow=35
synclient FingerHigh=40

and another:
Quote:
You may want to try entering "synclient" in the terminal to see what your FingerHigh & FingerLow values are. In my case, the movement was occurring with taps being recognized as released too early. You can see explanations of the different synclient values here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/synaptics.4.html Note that FingerLow can't be set higher than FingerHigh, so both will have to be changed as you adjust FingerLow. I used
FingerLow=55
&
FingerHigh=60
which eliminated the issue for me. If this fixes the malfunction, you will need to create an executable script to run at startup and resume


but also:
Quote:
had a similar problem on my Toshiba Satellite and followed the above instructions. However, 35-40 didn't help and 55-60 was too much and the touch pad wasn't responsive at all. I figured out the following works best for me.

FingerLow = 45
FingerHigh = 50
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number77

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Nov 2018, 04:32    Post subject:  

I haven not given up but there a few things I need to sort out before I try your suggestions.
Win 10 installed itself to the whole partition so no room for xenial until I partition the hdd and as its the first uefi hdd I have used I am working on that. Also none of my boot usb keys work so I am working on that too. Another also is I do not have sole use anymore.
I will get back.
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Nov 2018, 10:09    Post subject:  

Use Lick to install alongside Windows 10.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61404
No need to partition or do anything but use Lick to do the install.

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number77

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2018, 12:26    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Use Lick to install alongside Windows 10.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61404
No need to partition or do anything but use Lick to do the install.

I will try that bigpup when I get the Acer away from my partner.
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number77

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2018, 12:43    Post subject:  

Is it going to matter that lick 1.3.1-win32 is 32 bit and the win10 on the acer is 64 bit.
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number77

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Nov 2018, 13:03    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Use Lick to install alongside Windows 10.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61404
No need to partition or do anything but use Lick to do the install.

I used lick to install xenial64-7.5 iso on a blank partition on the acer but do not get any choice of os. What have I forgotten
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Nov 2018, 13:22    Post subject:  

Need to ask this in the Lick topic.

This is from the Lick readme
UEFI Systems with Secure Boot

Quote:
Windows 8, 8.1 and 10

Windows 8 and up have a feature called 'Fast Startup'. This cannot be enabled if LICK is installed. LICK disables Fast Startup upon installation.

LICK supports secure boot, but requires a manual step during the first reboot.

On the first reboot, if you see a blue screen with writing, press enter to select OK.
Press enter again to select Enroll Hash.
Use the up and down arrow keys to highlight loader.efi, and press enter.
Press the down arrow to select Yes, then press enter.
Use the down arrow to highlight Exit, then press enter.

On subsequent reboots, these steps will not need to be taken.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Nov 2018, 02:27    Post subject:  

Hi Number77 - a couple of questions:

1) When the travelmate is turned off can you hear and feel any clicking if you press down on the touchpad?

2) When running windows does your touchpad perform a rightclick when you press firmly at the bottom right hand corner? (and what about the top right corner?)

3) When running windows, what happens if you use a non conductive object (plastic pen or ruler etc) to press down on the centre of the touchpad? Does it behave like a left click?

(ok that's more than a couple of questions but hey, it's nearly christmas).
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Nov 2018, 04:11    Post subject:  

1) Yes there is a definite click when off.
2) Right click works in the bottom corner only.
3) The non conductive pen does nothing at all, it needs a finger.

I am still trying to get puppy loaded without destroying win 10 and am working through bigpups suggestions. Why the world seems hung up on win 10 I don't know as it is really awful and I think its up to 40gb now on the hdd.
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Nov 2018, 04:33    Post subject:  

number77 wrote:
1) Yes there is a definite click when off.
2) Right click works in the bottom corner only.
3) The non conductive pen does nothing at all, it needs a finger.
Based on the answer to Q1, i feel that the touchpad should definitely be responding to a firm press from a non-conductive object.
Could you try the test from Q3 again - but pressing at bottom left of the touchpad (rather than in the centre). You will need to place the cursor over something "activatable" (like a menu button) and see if a firm press on the touchpad creates a left click. Use a blunt-tipped object as you will have to press as firmly as you did when you got an audible click when clicking the pad in Q1 when power was off)

Sorry to be focusing on this point but it is critical to getting your touchpad properly configured.
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Nov 2018, 10:38    Post subject:  

bigpup
lickgrub.cfg is installed in C: drive but I am not asked what os to use, it boots straight into win 10.
Before I got your second half of message telling me about the blue screen and press enter I tried it, didnt know what the blue screen meant so it timed out and went straight on to win 10. I did un install the iso with lick, rebooted and reinstalled the iso. Still no choice of os. Any ideas.
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Nov 2018, 10:51    Post subject:  

greengeek wrote:
number77 wrote:
1) Yes there is a definite click when off.
2) Right click works in the bottom corner only.
3) The non conductive pen does nothing at all, it needs a finger.
Based on the answer to Q1, i feel that the touchpad should definitely be responding to a firm press from a non-conductive object.
Could you try the test from Q3 again - but pressing at bottom left of the touchpad (rather than in the centre). You will need to place the cursor over something "activatable" (like a menu button) and see if a firm press on the touchpad creates a left click. Use a blunt-tipped object as you will have to press as firmly as you did when you got an audible click when clicking the pad in Q1 when power was off)

Sorry to be focusing on this point but it is critical to getting your touchpad properly configured.

Non conducting object has no effect at all. The blunt end of biro does not do anything at all, the touchpad clicks but nothing else.
My wife has a pointer to work her tablet but that also has no effect at all.
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Nov 2018, 10:54    Post subject:  

You need to ask this on the Lick topic.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61404

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