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mikeb


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Oct 2018, 11:43    Post subject:  

Hmm A tablet just for wifi browsing seemed the way and keep the pc for everything else.....we shall see. I have got min running on a updated lucid which is basically just the chrome renderer and not much else. Good for html5 vids too.

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NT4 Win 2000?

No NT4 preceeded 2000...it did not have the integrated IE so zero internet security issues ..it can run older opera and and a surprising amount of other software... . 2000 and XP are very similar, much of the difference is the interface though IE is easier to deintegrate with 2000. Its my default windows on the pentium 3 .

Nice one with the new hosts file thread.

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Nov 2018, 14:16    Post subject:  

Does this mean, I'm now also adopted to google drive?

How would I access this to upload files?

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2018, 15:42    Post subject:  

uBlock Origin works for me. Cuts down on 99% of the crap that slows down yr browsing experience. Funny thing is that although I like using Google's Drive, they get in a real snit over my use of uBlock on any of their related sites. VERY comical..!

I've used Chrome ever since version 1, in Sept. 2008. And I've watched it get gradually slower & slower, and Google get correspondingly nosier & nosier, as the years have wafted past. A real shame, 'cos it was the breakneck speed that attracted me to it in the first place. I'd left Internet Exploder behind 2 or 3 years before, and migrated to Firefox.....but at the time Chrome was released, it was in a regular rut of daily crashes, and horrendous memory leaks, etc. Chrome, by comparison, looked pretty good.

At least my main box, despite being 13 yrs old next February, is still powerful enough to handle the normal, day-to-day cut & thrust of the modern web. For now, anyway.....and while I stick with Puppy, that is. MyCrudSoft left my box behind years ago in term of processing ability. A 64 GB SSD on the old P4-powered Dell lappie runs 3 or 4 Pups, with plenty of room left over for daily data usage, saving/downloading, etc. The big old Compaq desktop does run a 500 GB main drive, but that has around a dozen Pups, plus main data stores, and a shed-load of remotely sym-linked, 'common apps', config files, etc, etc. (And still has a fair bit of unallocated space..!) And a 3 TB external USB desktop drive is 2/3 full of movies, music, and images....but that is exclusively my 'personal' data, and gets unplugged every night.

I've heard folks comment that a 500 GB drive is 'uncomfortably tight' to run Windoze 10 on, and that a 'minimum' 1 TB drive is preferable. Not being funny, but what the f**k does Windoze do with all that frickin' space?


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PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2018, 16:11    Post subject:  

Mike Walsh wrote:
uBlock Origin works for me. Cuts down on 99% of the crap that slows down yr browsing experience. Funny thing is that although I like using Google's Drive, they get in a real snit over my use of uBlock on any of their related sites. VERY comical..!

I've used Chrome ever since version 1, in Sept. 2008. And I've watched it get gradually slower & slower, and Google get correspondingly nosier & nosier, as the years have wafted past. A real shame, 'cos it was the breakneck speed that attracted me to it in the first place. I'd left Internet Exploder behind 2 or 3 years before, and migrated to Firefox.....but at the time Chrome was released, it was in a regular rut of daily crashes, and horrendous memory leaks, etc. Chrome, by comparison, looked pretty good.

At least my main box, despite being 13 yrs old next February, is still powerful enough to handle the normal, day-to-day cut & thrust of the modern web. For now, anyway.....and while I stick with Puppy, that is. MyCrudSoft left my box behind years ago in term of processing ability. A 64 GB SSD on the old P4-powered Dell lappie runs 3 or 4 Pups, with plenty of room left over for daily data usage, saving/downloading, etc. The big old Compaq desktop does run a 500 GB main drive, but that has around a dozen Pups, plus main data stores, and a shed-load of remotely sym-linked, 'common apps', config files, etc, etc. (And still has a fair bit of unallocated space..!) And a 3 TB external USB desktop drive is 2/3 full of movies, music, and images....but that is exclusively my 'personal' data, and gets unplugged every night.

I've heard folks comment that a 500 GB drive is 'uncomfortably tight' to run Windoze 10 on, and that a 'minimum' 1 TB drive is preferable. Not being funny, but what the f**k does Windoze do with all that frickin' space?


Another of the many Mikes. Wink


Thanks Mike, I'm giving UBlock Origin a try now. I've found a snag with hosts files; sometimes they shut me out of a site I want to visit and for no obvious reason (though 95% of the time they work fine).

P.S. LOL on Internet Exploder (and MyCrudSolt too)! My local computer centre has Windows 10 on its machines and sometimes you have to wait for ages while the machine downloads and then installs updates when booting up (all without asking you first).

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Nov 2018, 08:18    Post subject:  

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I've heard folks comment that a 500 GB drive is 'uncomfortably tight' to run Windoze 10 on, and that a 'minimum' 1 TB drive is preferable. Not being funny, but what the f**k does Windoze do with all that frickin' space?

My thoughts exactly.... slow you down usually .
I suspect it simply forces hardware updates as it still the same NT underneath that XP and older ran on. Not to mention heavy updates push for more expensive internet contracts. We are part of the product not the customer as the saying goes.

Now about those megs of bandwidth going TO servers when you say login to a site which only actually requires around 50Bytes of data.

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Nov 2018, 12:36    Post subject:  

mikeb wrote:
Now about those megs of bandwidth going TO servers when you say login to a site which only actually requires around 50Bytes of data
In my view it is theft when companes take control of your bandwidth and either push adverts at you or use that bandwidth to steer you to sites designed to track and monitor you for googles best interests

I find it hard to understand why there has not been some kind of class action holding Google-affiliated sites to account.

You paid for your ISP bandwidth so anyone else who uses it without your express permission is a thief.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Nov 2018, 13:11    Post subject:  

greengeek wrote:
I find it hard to understand why there has not been some kind of class action holding Google-affiliated sites to account.


i am semi-neutral on whether we go the socialist utopia route or the ancap utopia route (the latter does seem more likely, there are problems with both) though both seem hypothetical until you replace us all with robots in the workplace--

that said, my understanding of industry is that it is a sacred cow which is in desperate need of assistance whenever it squanders our taxmoney or its own billions, and we all need to all chip in and give from every individual according to their estimated ability, to every monopoly according to its need.

honestly, we need tv ads like the ones for the aspca with sarah mclachlan singing "for just pennies an hour, you can help to bail out a major car company or bank like this one" and have an absurdly wealthy man (or woman) in a suit with a tear about to roll down their cheek.

its a laughable subculture, but it runs underneath all commerce in the united states. (totally different if you go to europe, where youll find cardboard office buildings littering the sidewalks of the largest cities due to the ravages of consumer protection.)

the bottom line-- corporations arent just people, theyre starving children and we should take care of them all-- because they are our future.

so if you were still wondering, THATS why you need to be tracked by 200 other sites when you visit one. wont somebody think of the ceos?

not to mention that with its complete lack of ties to the government, google has very little to prop it up financially or "legally," making it particularly helpless now that it has separated into smaller more vulnerable companies. the same thing happened to at&t once, and we never heard anything from the likes of them ever again.

so the real question isnt why hasnt the public sued google, but why would you kill an innocent baby? its the same thing, except suing google is arguably worse.

if you sue them now, youll never know if someday theyll save the world, or grow up to love linux like microsoft does.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Nov 2018, 08:37    Post subject:  

Hmm perhaps like charity shops we should simply suckle on the teats a little bit harder.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Nov 2018, 17:22    Post subject:  

mikeb wrote:
Hmm A tablet just for wifi browsing seemed the way and keep the pc for everything else


I hate to say it, but I find myself using a cheap 8" tablet more than my laptop nowadays - unless I'm programming something in gtkdialog/bash or C, but I find myself doing less of that now anyway. It's just so easy to carry the tablet around and it cost me less that 60 US dollars. Mind you I do go to Fdroid for apps on my tablet first - avoiding Play Store as much as possible.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Nov 2018, 20:43    Post subject:  

wiak wrote:
I hate to say it, but I find myself using a cheap 8" tablet more than my laptop nowadays


im still waiting for a tablet that doesnt rely too much on bluetooth and an irritating touchscreen, which is fun to program and makes it easy to remove the garbage software i dont want.

if nothing else, its a great way to grow a long beard. ive tried a few tablets, they suck. but i expect people to use them if they dont agree.

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Nov 2018, 11:15    Post subject:  

Hmmm only got phones at the moment...getting something with true GPS is a challenge.
Alcatels seem happy as did an LG when it came to removing software except for some items that need rooting to achieve. I just get the annoying 'google play not working' nag but the phones run much better.
Another alcatel bonus is that you can plug in as a memopry stick and download to sd cards so avoiding space limits and awful MTP etc.

Searching for 'name' plus 'apk' seems to bring up alternative sources no problem.

Perhaps a friendly phone and tips thread needed in the off topic section

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