Dpup Stretch 7.5 CE (RC-5)

[01101001b]

it is classical in Puppy [...] a lot of values return to the default values each restart: sound, .jwmrc, xorgconf, UTC/localtime etc.

Hi Oui! A very great tip indeed. I was guessing something like that and now you confirm my suspicion. I appreciate it.

this possibility is explained explicitly in the help texts of «Remaster PUPPY live-CD»!

Now you have piqued my interest. I had read in the forum about "remasters" and seen that option in my system (obviously) but I wasn't quite sure why I'd want to make one or how (now "Remove builtin packages" makes a whole lot of sense to me).

but where is the setting sheet for Rox or for alsamixer?

For ROX you can find some defaults settings in /root/.xinitrc. For alsamixer (here maybe?) /root/.config/gconf/apps/gnome-alsamixer.
Thanks again for your reply. Regards!

[daarek5]

by default ppp module was unloaded. Strange for me (less experienced user) .
Caused old 3G modem was not working.

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modprobe ppp_generic

helps

Regards!

[6502coder]

Edit 23 jan 2019: NEVER MIND! It turned out to be due to a flash drive going bad.

I'm running Dpup Stretch 7.5 RC 3 with the 4.1.48 kernel and encountered a puzzling behavior with flash drives that I hope somebody can explain.

My computer is a 2003 Compaq Presario laptop with WinXP and TahrPup 6.0.6 dual-booting off the hard drive. I have Dpup Stetch installed on a green flash drive (frugal install with saveFOLDER), so when I boot from the flash drive, it shows up as sdb1, while WinXP and TahrPup are on sda1 and sda2 respectively.

Today I was running Dpup Stretch and I plugged in a second (BLACK) flash drive which showed up as sdc1, as usual and as expected. I did my business with the black flash drive, then unmounted it (by clicking on the little "house" symbol in the upper-right corner of the desk icon) and then unplugged it. I opened a terminal session and ran "df" to verify that sdc1 was no longer mounted. I then inserted a different (RED) flash drive, which again showed up as sdc1 on the desktop.

When I mounted the red flash drive, the ROX window I got showed me the contents of the BLACK flash drive. Puzzled, I opened a terminal, cd'd into /mnt/sdc1, and did an "ls" and saw the correct contents of the red flash drive. But when I typed "rox" into the terminal session, the ROX window that came up again showed the contents of the BLACK flash drive, not the RED flash drive.

In short, I got the impression that a ROX cache is not being cleared correctly when a flash drive is unmounted. Am I correct, or do Dpups just work differently from standard Puppies is this regard?

In case it matters, all three of the flash drives I was using in this incident were plugged into a 3-port USB extender which in turn was plugged into one of the 2 USB ports on the laptop -- the other is taken up by the mouse, which is why I need to use the extender in order to be able to use the mouse, the green Dpup drive, AND either the black or the red flash drive simultaneously. The port I plugged the red flash drive was the same port I used with the black flash drive.

(It's nearing midnight now for me so I'll check back in tomorrow morning)

[radky]

Hi 6502coder,

Stretch RC3 was released 6 months ago. In the interim the Woof-CE devs have implemented multiple revisions of pup_event code to better manage the behavior of drive icons, and ROX-Filer is now significantly improved. These changes will be included in RC4.

Recent changes in Woof-CE are quite extensive. I'm currently testing new builds and waiting for additional bug fixes before releasing Stretch RC4.

Thanks for your patience.

[6502coder]

Thanks radky, I'm really enjoying your Dpup and look forward to RC4. Aside from this one glitch, RC3 has been a very smooth ride for me.

[rerwin]

radky,
I am running kdiff3 from the git-gui package and encountered these messages:

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Can't locate Class/Struct.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Class::Struct module) (@INC contains: /usr/share/perl/5.24.1 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/i386-linux-gnu/perl/5.24.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.24.1 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/perl5/5.24 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/perl/5.24 /usr/share/perl/5.24 /usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/perl-base .) at /usr/share/perl/5.24.1/File/stat.pm line 184.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl/5.24.1/File/stat.pm line 184.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/git-core/git-difftool line 21.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/git-core/git-difftool line 21.

I found that I needed to update some perl packages with the PPM:

• The obvious one to update: perl-modules-5.24_5.24.1-3+deb9u4 to replace ...deb9u2
  Related updated packages: perl_5.24.1-3+deb9u4, perl-base_5.24.1-3+deb9u4, libperl_5.24.1-3+deb9u4
  Another related package but not shown for installation: libperl-dev_5.24.1-3+deb9u4

I installed all but the last and see that kdiff3 now runs normally. I am not sure all need updating, but it seems prudent to do so.

Could these updates be included in RC4? Xenial, bionic64, upupbb and upupcc seem to already have the missing module (Class::Struct).

Thank you.
Richard

[radky]

radky,
I am running kdiff3 from the git-gui package and encountered these messages:

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 Can't locate Class/Struct.pm in @INC ...

I found that I needed to update some perl packages with the PPM:[list]perl-modules-5.24_5.24.1-3+deb9u4
Related updated packages: perl_5.24.1-3+deb9u4, perl-base_5.24.1-3+deb9u4, libperl_5.24.1-3+deb9u4
Another related package but not shown for installation: libperl-dev_5.24.1-3+deb9u4[/list]I installed all but the last and see that kdiff3 now runs normally.  I am not sure all need updating, but it seems prudent to do so.

Could these updates be included in RC4?  Xenial, bionic64, upupbb and upupcc seem to already have the missing module (Class::Struct).

Thank you.
Richard[/quote]
Hi rerwin,

Stretch RC4 will contain the following perl packages:

1 - perl-base_5.24.1-3+deb9u4
2 - perl-modules-5.24_5.24.1-3+deb9u4
3 - perl_5.24.1-3+deb9u4
4 - libperl-dev_5.24.1-3+deb9u4
5 - libperl5.24_5.24.1-3+deb9u4

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Note: /usr/share/perl/5.24.1/Class/Struct.pm is not a default perl module in the base RC4 iso, but it is included in the optional devx.sfs.

If Struct.pm is the sole missing perl module required for running kdiff3, I can include it in the base RC4 iso.

I hope this helps.

[Brown Mouse]

Keep having this popup every few minutes.
Any ideas why or how to get rid of it?Ive changed nothing recently so not sure what has caused it to keep appearing. 'Reload setting' makes no difference.

TIA

[radky]

Brown Mouse wrote:

Warning: Connection to sound system failed.
Do you want to re-initialize the audio connection?

@Brown Mouse,

Importantly, PNMixer modulates the ALSA interface for sound card device drivers, but does not directly support pulseaudio.

Possibly, one of your media applications is intermittently stopping the alsa daemon, at which point PNMixer warns of the failed connection to the sound system.

Have you noticed this issue when running a specific program such as Mplayer, VLC Media Player, Firefox Quantum, or other media application?

I have not experienced the issue you describe with PNMixer, but some users have (see following pnmixer link at github.com):

https://github.com/nicklan/pnmixer/issues/182

One of the pnmixer devs (hasufell) speculates (in some cases) pulseaudio does not play well with alsa and may interfere with the alsa daemon.

Whatever the reason, the current official release of PNMixer does not automatically reload the sound system when the alsa channel is skewed.

It seems hasufell (pnmixer dev) has offered a patch (below) to address this issue, but the patch is not yet included in the master branch of PNMixer.

https://github.com/nicklan/pnmixer/pull/183

[Brown Mouse]

Brown Mouse wrote:

Warning: Connection to sound system failed.
Do you want to re-initialize the audio connection?

Have you noticed this issue when running a specific program such as Mplayer, VLC Media Player, Firefox Quantum, or other media application?


https://github.com/nicklan/pnmixer/pull/183

Thank you for your explanation radky.
Yes,it seemed to occur whilst running Firefox Quantum.Since that was all I was running at the time then presumably you are correct and it is linked to that.
Ive not seen the problem reoccur yet.

[radky]

Dpup Stretch 7.5 CE (RC-4)

Downloads:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 590#974590

Changelog:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 591#974591

[Terry H]

Radky,

Thank you for this version of Strech puppy. Initial running using the default JWM it is excellent (will check FbBox tomorrow). Running Palemoon in this puppy is very smooth, videos playing well in youtube and also on various news sites. As I mainly use my laptop, one of the first things I do is disable Tapping, so was nice to see it is disabled by default now. Sound control function keys are working.

I do have one small issue. I know iwlwifi is a pain, but you missed with the firmware for Intel 7265. The lib/firmware contains iwlwifi-7265D vesions 10,17 & 27, however the kernel is looking for versions 26, 25, 24, 23, 22, so unfortunately no wifi OOTB. I don't think versions 23 - 26 actually exist in the wild. I have only ever been able to find v-22 in this range. I have loaded version 22 and wifi working fine.

For later kernels, v-27 would work, there is a v-29 which I think is the latest version, which works for later kernels.


Also one question, the script to control the placement of the Save Icon on the desktop, was previously in rc.sysinit. It is no longer there (similarly in other newer puppies). I have been unable to find where it is, as I alter it to not appear. I convert the save2flsah.desktop file to be included in /usr/share/applications and add a launcher to the top panel.

Thank you, your effort and time taken to produce this version is very much appreciated. Great work..

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# inxi -Fxzw
System:
  Host: puppypc1156 Kernel: 4.9.149-stretch i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc 
  v: 7.3.0 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: Puppy 7.5 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Latitude 3350 v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Dell model: 0KVTCC v: A00 serial: <filter> UEFI: Dell v: A13 
  date: 01/23/2018 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 43.7 Wh condition: 35.4/43.7 Wh (81%) 
  model: Samsung SDI DELL 6C0FN58 status: Full 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-5005U bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Broadwell rev: 4 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 15963 
  Speed: 600 MHz min/max: 500/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 600 2: 500 
  3: 600 4: 1100 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Display: server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: 
  renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 5500 (Broadwell GT2) x86/MMX/SSE2 
  v: 4.5 Mesa 13.0.6 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Broadwell-U Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 
  Device-2: Intel Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio vendor: Dell 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.149-stretch 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000 bus ID: 03:00.0 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Intel Wireless 7265 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: e000 
  bus ID: 04:00.0 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  IF-ID-1: tunl0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 494.40 GiB used: 8.15 GiB (1.6%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MQ01ACF0 size: 465.76 GiB 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: SanDisk model: Ultra Fit size: 28.64 GiB 
Sensors:
  Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured? 
Weather:
  Temperature: -15 C (5 F) Conditions: Clear 
  Wind: from NW at 5.8 m/s (21 km/h, 13 mph) Humidity: 72% 
  Pressure: 1022 mb (30.19 in) 
  Current Time: Thu 10 Jan 2019 05:22:13 PM EST (America/Rainy_River) 
Info:
  Processes: 184 Uptime: 14m Memory: 7.57 GiB used: 212.4 MiB (2.7%) 
  Init: SysVinit runlevel: 35 Compilers: gcc: N/A Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 
  inxi: 3.0.30 

[radky]

Radky,

I do have one small issue. I know iwlwifi is a pain, but you missed with the firmware for Intel 7265. The lib/firmware contains iwlwifi-7265D vesions 10,17 & 27, however the kernel is looking for versions 26, 25, 24, 23, 22, so unfortunately no wifi OOTB. I don't think versions 23 - 26 actually exist in the wild. I have only ever been able to find v-22 in this range. I have loaded version 22 and wifi working fine.

For later kernels, v-27 would work, there is a v-29 which I think is the latest version, which works for later kernels.

@Terry,

I will correct iwlwifi firmware in the zdrv.sfs and reload the k4.9.149 iso in a few minutes.

Thanks

[Terry H]

Radky,

I do have one small issue. I know iwlwifi is a pain, but you missed with the firmware for Intel 7265. The lib/firmware contains iwlwifi-7265D vesions 10,17 & 27, however the kernel is looking for versions 26, 25, 24, 23, 22, so unfortunately no wifi OOTB. I don't think versions 23 - 26 actually exist in the wild. I have only ever been able to find v-22 in this range. I have loaded version 22 and wifi working fine.

For later kernels, v-27 would work, there is a v-29 which I think is the latest version, which works for later kernels.

@Terry,

I will correct iwlwifi firmware in the xdrv.sfs and reload the k4.9.149 iso in a few minutes.

Thanks

That is service.

Can you please advise me whare the save2flash is processed?

Thanks.

[radky]

Can you please advise me where the save2flash is processed?

Thanks.

Hi Terry,

Look at /bin/plogin

https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... 28673a00f3

[Terry H]

Thanks, that fixed it. I had previously done several searches, but couldn't find script.

Thought I'd post a screenshot of the desktop as set up this evening.

[radky]

The lib/firmware contains iwlwifi-7265D vesions 10,17 & 27, however the kernel is looking for versions 26, 25, 24, 23, 22, so unfortunately no wifi OOTB. I don't think versions 23 - 26 actually exist in the wild. I have only ever been able to find v-22 in this range. I have loaded version 22 and wifi working fine.

Corrected stretch-7.5-uefi-k4.9.149.iso is now uploaded and available in first post.

Includes iwlwifi-7265D-22.ucode wifi firmware.

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Dpup Stretch 7.5 CE (RC-4)

Downloads:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 590#974590

Changelog:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 591#974591

[Terry H]

I thought I should give the 4.1.48 kernel equal oppurtunity, so I swapped out the kernel and zdrv to check its operationon my laptop. All running well. Interesting iwlwifi results. So the 4.1.48 kernel processed the intel firmware slightly differently and was able to load an earlier version of firmware outside its checking range.

# dmesg|grep wifi
iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Unsupported splx structure
iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-7265D-13.ucode failed with error -2
iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-7265D-12.ucode failed with error -2
iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-7265D-12.ucode' failed.
iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-7265D-11.ucode failed with error -2
iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-7265D-11.ucode' failed.
iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Firmware has old API version, expected v12 through v13, got v10.
iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: New firmware can be obtained from http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/.
iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: loaded firmware version 23.15.10.0 op_mode iwlmvm
iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless AC 7265, REV=0x210

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# inxi -Fxxz
System:    Host: puppypc1156 Kernel: 4.1.48 i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 dm: xinit 
           Distro: Puppy 7.5 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Latitude 3350 v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 9 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 0KVTCC v: A00 serial: <filter> UEFI: Dell v: A13 date: 01/23/2018 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 43.7 Wh condition: 35.4/43.7 Wh (81%) volts: 8.3/7.4 model: Samsung SDI DELL 6C0FN58 
           serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-5005U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Broadwell rev: 4 L1 cache: 64 KiB 
           L2 cache: 3072 KiB L3 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 15969 
           Speed: 500 MHz min/max: 500/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 600 2: 500 3: 500 4: 500 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:1616 
           Display: server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 5500 (Broadwell GT2) x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 4.5 Mesa 13.0.6 compat-v: 3.0 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Broadwell-U Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 chip ID: 8086:160c 
           Device-2: Intel Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
           chip ID: 8086:9ca0 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.1.48 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI 
           port: e000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel Wireless 7265 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 04:00.0 chip ID: 8086:095a 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 494.40 GiB used: 8.30 GiB (1.7%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MQ01ACF0 size: 465.76 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: N/A 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: SanDisk model: Ultra Fit size: 28.64 GiB serial: N/A 
Sensors:   Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured? 
Info:      Processes: 126 Uptime: 19m Memory: 7.58 GiB used: 176.9 MiB (2.3%) Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 35 Compilers: 
           gcc: N/A Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 running in: lxterminal inxi: 3.0.30 

Running Palemoon used considerably more RAM, around 300 MiB with a single Tab open.

[Terry H]

As shown in the previous post the RAM usage when using kernel 4.1.48 was considerably higher than when using kernel 4.9.149, So thought I'd post some comparison values.

Kernel 4.9.149 with only lxterminal open to run inxi:
Info: Processes: 184 Uptime: 11m Memory: 7.57 GiB used: 112.7 MiB (1.5%)
With Palemoon open with a single Tab on start.me as Home page RAM usage ~ 276 MiB


Kernel 4.1.48 with only lxterminal open to run inxi:
Info: Processes: 126 Uptime: 19m Memory: 7.58 GiB used: 176.9 MiB (2.3%)
With Palemoon open with a single Tab on start.me as Home page RAM usage ~ 476 MiB

[don570]

I tested stretch-7.5-uefi-k4.1.48 yesterday and saw two things.

1) I am using a frugal installation. I put pupsave=none in menu.lst but it still
loaded the save file. I don't know the way to boot without a save file.

2) the wacom driver for my bamboo tablet automatically loads when booted.
I could get mtpaint to detect the tablet's devices by making changes to xorg.conf
but couldn't adjust the pressure.

3) I request a 'Search with pFind' right click for /mnt drive files.
That allows a quick search of a drive.

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Happy to see you upgraded pupmd5sum!