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Puppy has a news ticker
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klhrevolutionist


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2005, 18:54    Post subject:  Puppy has a news ticker  

go to extra dotpups to download bbcticker.pup
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 00:45    Post subject:  

There is a slightly newer version available at http://www.sh.rim.or.jp/~ssato/dockapp/index.shtml (0.6.0pre1). Here is the description from the website, if it helps anyone figure out how to configure this application:
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Ticker.app is a ticker dockapp based on wmticker written by Jiro SEKIBA. It reads a file that is specified by the command line, and displays each line in a viewing area periodically. When the file has been modified, it was reread automatically. If you run in a tail-mode, Ticker.app ticks only the last line. Another area to display is a popup window that may be opened by clicking the up arrow button. You can skip to next line by clicking the right allow button, and controll the viewing area by dragging the horizontal scrollbar or the mouse wheel.

The wmticker site itself, by the way, no longer appears to be active.

I, too, would be interested in some sort of news ticker or simplified RSS reader. (Yes, I know Opera can do this with its newsreader, but I kind of want to keep the two separate. If anyone has ever seen or tried the BBC news ticker, that's kind of what I've been looking for, except configurable to add other feeds. Feather Linux had set up Dillo to work as an RSS newsfeed reader (links to the headlines, which you could then click on to read more) to which additional sites could be added. Maybe an idea?

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 01:47    Post subject:  

This might be the easiest way to do an RSS feed . . .

http://www.google.com/ig

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 02:02    Post subject:  

i looked (briefly) at the gkgrellm ticker ... it needs curl (a file download program, like wget) to work
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 02:05    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
This might be the easiest way to do an RSS feed . . .

http://www.google.com/ig


Probably so, and it's worth a look. But I'm looking more for something I can keep open at the bottom or the top of a desktop and glance at while I'm doing other things, something that doesn't take up much space, like kticker (or is it knewsticker?) if such a thing can easily be added or incorporated into Puppy.

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 08:36    Post subject:  

Looking at the install files for the Ticker ( the one in the first post ), you need a C compiler installed for it. ( so that rules me out straight away ).

Also it won't run on older X versions ( X11R5 or less ), so the version of Puppy that you are running could also be causing the problem.

That's about as far as I can really go with this one. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 10:41    Post subject:  

However, it would be a damn fine project to write using tcl though.

A quick google came up with this

http://www.tcl.tk/software/plugin/ticker.html

It's certainly somewhere to start.
I don't pretend to know exactly what a news ticker is supposed to actually do - apart from talk away in the corner of the screen though. Maybe someone could enlighten me as to what's actually required from one.


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 12:31    Post subject: brilliant  

That is awesome rich, but how can we make it tick news???
maybe insert a web address into it that does ticking such as government controlled cnn??? I don't know but will see!!!

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 12:31    Post subject:  

The real problem with a news ticker is not writing one, it's where to get the info for it to put up on your screen. Find a free news feed and there will be more tickers than you can shake a stick at.
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 12:46    Post subject: well  

Just one more thought!

ok, take for instance Guest Too's Radio.pup
instead of playing music could we make it tick news???
would it be hard to tweak your script Guest Too??
I mean instead of streaming radio, it could put up a box with news feeds.
Instead of having options to what kinda music one wants to listen to
they would have an option of what kinda news they want to see
ticking.
Or one can already change the radio so that it listen to what they want,
so instead of news feed they can have radio news!!



I would like a news feeder though, radio is good but it does get annoying
they talk about some of the dumbest things, makes me wonder if people know they have been programmed to do what the the mind control machine
wants them to, am I programmed to write this???
Makes one wonder,

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 13:40    Post subject:  

If I'm not mistaken, there are plenty of free news feeds out there, or KDE's news ticker would not exist (including BBC News). When I used KDE, I was able to add feeds as I recall. Wouldn't RSS feeds work with such an application?
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 18:08    Post subject:  

Walt H wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, there are plenty of free news feeds out there, or KDE's news ticker would not exist (including BBC News). When I used KDE, I was able to add feeds as I recall. Wouldn't RSS feeds work with such an application?


Most well constructed blogs have embedded news tickers via RSS, Atom, and one older format.

Take a look at hughhewitt.com where I believe he has several.

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 18:41    Post subject: Re: well  

klhrevolutionist wrote:
"...radio is good but it does get annoying
they talk about some of the dumbest things, makes me wonder if people know they have been programmed to do what the the mind control machine
wants them to, am I programmed to write this???"
Makes one wonder,
Can't you pick up an NPR station? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 21:35    Post subject: Re: well  

Flash wrote:
klhrevolutionist wrote:
"...radio is good but it does get annoying
they talk about some of the dumbest things, makes me wonder if people know they have been programmed to do what the the mind control machine
wants them to, am I programmed to write this???"
Makes one wonder,
Can't you pick up an NPR station? Laughing


I thought he was referring to NPR ... Rolling Eyes

I tried to insert several different streams for Hugh Hewitt, a thoughtful talk show host, but none are recognized by the Internet Radio Demo, in fact the Demo has stopped working at all. Something must have been broken when I installed MPlayer and the MPlayer and Xmms buttons. Sigh.

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Aug 2005, 02:33    Post subject:  

My search efforts for a news ticker application (now several hours and counting) have turned up nothing suitable for Puppy as yet. However, there are a few news/RSS feed aggregators that may be a decent fit or could be made to fit. Three are text/console-based; Three are GUI-based. They are ranked in order of what appears to be ease of installation for Puppy users.

1) Snownews - http://kiza.kcore.de/software/snownews/ Offers a binary package for download that supposedly has no additional dependencies. Source code is also available. Binary is 735K download, source is 158K. [console-based]

2) gfeed - http://sourceforge.net/projects/gfeed Requires libxml 2.6 or greater (I believe Puppy has 2.5). Application appears to be GUI-based with a look reminiscient of a console-based app. The application itself is a 176K download and must be compiled as far as I can tell.

3) TT-news - http://www.ipd.bth.se/ska/sim_home/ttnews.html Text-based (I think) application that uses lynx by default but can use other methods according to the website. TT-news is skinnable to give it a more polished look. Application requires QT, and the website has special instructions for compiling it to work under QT3. The last version of this application came out several years ago.

4) Olive - http://mdxi.collapsar.net/hacks/olive/ Console mode RSS aggregator/news reader. Application seems to have fairly detail documentation, a real plus compared to numbers 2 and 3. The application also includes a script for downloading any missing dependencies that appear when running 'make'. However, this may be a bit much for Puppy users; among other things, it apparently requires SQLite.

5) NewsFeed - http://home.arcor.de/mdoege/newsfeed/ Written in Python/Tk. This is a GUI-based aggregator/news reader. The main page states that the only dependency is Tk. However, elsewhere in the documentation, it is stated that Python 2.3 and Tkinter are also required. The application itself is only an 88K download.

6) Raggle - http://www.raggle.org/ Raggle is console-based but has more of a traditional newsreader feel to it. It also has a number of dependencies: Ruby, version 1.6.8 (or newer); REXML, version 2.4.0 (included in Ruby 1.8); NCurses-Ruby, version 0.7.1 (or newer); YAML support (included in Ruby 1.8); YAML-Ruby, version 0.49.1 (or newer); and Syck, version 0.35 (included in Ruby 1.8). Documentation for this application was extremely hard to find and required a separate Google search in order to find it.

In addition, it appears there was at one time, an unofficial effort to port the BBC News Ticker to Linux, but that appears to have been abandoned. There was also a newsticker project called Tknews that never appears to have gotten off the ground. But it does make me wonder whether something like stockwatch http://wiki.tcl.tk/11000 (includes script code), TclTicker http://www.nyx.net/~tpoindex/tcl.html#Tclticker, or TclStock http://mini.net/tcl/3517, written to track stock quotes, or TkWeatherhttp://oplnk.net/~ajackson/software/ (self-explanatory, I think) could be changed a bit by someone with TCL/Tk experience to become a small-footprint news ticker application. Just a thought (or two).

UPDATE: I tried the SnowNews binary and had no success. NewsFeed also did not work (didn't really expect it to). It appears any of these would have to be turned into a dotpup in order to work in Puppy. The first three applications listed might seem to be the most likely candidates. Anyone up to it?

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