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Rudy Edition: slimming it down?
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blkarach

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Feb 2007, 14:50    Post subject:  Rudy Edition: slimming it down?
Subject description: Rudy Edition is a big dog i need to trim fat without crippling How To?		  
I am posting a lot today but while trying to learn to use puppy i have nagging questions and the time today to seek answers.
My Rudy Edition installs are huge but it just has almost everything i want right out the box.
But some things i don't and probably will never need. Any suggestions on how to uninstall
some things without crippling the distro?
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debernardis


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Feb 2007, 04:49    Post subject:  
I could help you if you let me know what you don't need...
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Lobster
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Feb 2007, 06:15    Post subject:  
does pupbegone from pizzasgood help?
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blkarach

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2007, 12:57    Post subject: Rudy Edition: slimming it down? New Download
Subject description: New Rudy Edition http://puppylinux.org/wikka/RudyPuppy		  
Thanks guys
I have not tried pupbegone
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=850964992&t=3982
but i will.
I am about to checkout the new Rudy Edition download.

Here is the 070227 version, based on Puppy Linux 2.14
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/RudyPuppy
I will make a list of what i will not use and see if you can help me uninstall and still have a healthy puppy.
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blkarach

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2007, 00:26    Post subject: Rudy Edition: slimming it down?
Subject description: Downloaded the 070227 version, based on Puppy Linux 2.14 need to remove some programs.		  
debernardis,

I Downloaded the 070227 version of Rudy Edition based on Puppy Linux 2.14 and it is sweet but i need to remove some programs.
I will begin with the Utilities menu:
Xcalc
Ycalc
Gbase

the Science menu:
Rlplot
Easychem
MedAsq

the Games menu:
All
Any ideas on safe removal?

I am glad that Xsane scanner frontend, Xpdq printer management and Cups printer management are in place.
I will add Gtkam for my Canon a510 camera as i got it to work with Gtkam in Grafpup.
Cups worked in Grafpup with my HP Photosmart 7350 printer after i downloaded a ppd file from the linuxprinting.org website.

http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi

I will probably add Opera and Mplayer like I did in the last Rudy Edition.

You do great work and i hate to dissect it. Hope you don't mind.

Lobster
I will try Pupbegone this weekend
Thanks
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debernardis


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PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2007, 02:59    Post subject:  
You won't be saving a significant space by erasing those you listed:
Code:
sh-3.00# du -h  /usr/X11R7/bin/xcalc
23K     /usr/X11R7/bin/xcalc
sh-3.00# du -h  /usr/local/bin/ycalc
37K     /usr/local/bin/ycalc
sh-3.00# du -h /usr/local/bin/gbase
15K     /usr/local/bin/gbase
sh-3.00# du -h  /usr/local/rlplot-1.2/
2.2M    /usr/local/rlplot-1.2/
sh-3.00# du -h  /usr/local/easychem-0.6/
564K    /usr/local/easychem-0.6/
sh-3.00#

Excluding games, less then 3 megs. MedASq is only a menu voice calling an url. Games are tiny, too: xaos is 201 kbytes, xgammon 45 kbytes, bubbles 45k, gtkfish 78k and so on.

The biggies are openoffice.org (almost 240 megs), java (almost 84 megs), skype (almost 17 megs), R (58 megs), wine (almost 80 megs).

Gdmap is your friend... try gdmap -f /usr , gdmap -f /usr/local , gdmap -f /usr/lib .
You can inspect the whole filesystem with gdmap to see what's bloat.
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Gekko


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PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2007, 03:10    Post subject:  
Swap Skype with Gizmo. SIP vs Skype, SIP is not proprietary Very Happy
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debernardis


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PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2007, 08:27    Post subject:  
Gekko wrote:
Swap Skype with Gizmo. SIP vs Skype, SIP is not proprietary Very Happy

Yes but the thing I like in Skype is that it punches holes in firewalls... you can use it also when ports are closed. Does Gizmo work the same?
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blkarach

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2007, 09:57    Post subject: Rudy Edition: slimming it down?
Subject description: Rudy Edition: slimming it down? First attempt using pupbegone.		  
I downloaded pupbegone-v1.5.pet.
http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/software/puppy/PETget/pupbegone-1.5.pet
I read the post http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=850964992&t=3982

and did the install on Rudy Edition 070227 version, based on Puppy Linux 2.14
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/RudyPuppy
The message popups said it would be in menu under Setup and i needed the 0pkgs_db file and that 0pkgs_db would be qued for download.
After a JWM restart, X restart and even Reboot computer I did not see pupbegone in the Setup menu. I finally located it in Add-ons-XDG menus-Setup which is a Rudy Edition 070227 version thing i believe.
I tried twice to uninstall OpenOffice but no go.
A dependency check says pupbegone is okay but i am going to look at the 0pkgs_db file and try again.

debernardis:
You are right. Gdmap is an eyeopener.

gekko:
You know Rudy Edition 070227 version comes with both Skype and Xtensoftphone SIP phone client installed. I played a while with Xten last night but got a Proxy does not resolve error. I will hook it up to Gizmo later and try it again.
I am thinking to carry the big apps on an sd card or flash drive as install on demand.
Thanks
http://sipphone.com/
http://www.xten.com/index.php?menu=Products&smenu=xlite
http://skype.com/
Gizmo project
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=91709

Puppy Linux2.15
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=99622
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