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#141 Post by 666philb »

hi radky

with new func file correct video ram report here with an nvidia card apart from the weird 256mb bit at the end

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Video RAM: 4096 M total, 256M
bigpup wrote: • Video RAM: 8192 M total
do you want to swap cards? :D
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#142 Post by radky »

foxpup wrote:
1536M for video RAM... is exactly the same number as for the intel gc of bigpup.
(The normal RAM for CPU of this machine is 8G and video RAM is reported in windows to be 1G)
@foxpup,

In a terminal, please run the following:

glxinfo | grep -Ei 'device|memory'

You will see something like the following for your Intel system.

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    Device: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 (Skylake GT2) x86/MMX/SSE2
    Video memory: 1536MB
    Unified memory: yes
If I understand correctly, 'Unified memory' refers to Unified Memory Architecture (UMA), also know as Integrated Graphics or Shared Graphics, where system RAM provides shared memory for graphics rendering.

For graphics rendering, 1536MB Video Ram is a value commonly allocated by systems with Intel Integrated Graphics.
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#143 Post by radky »

666philb wrote:
Video RAM: 4096 M total, 256M
@666philb,

The second component of the Video RAM report refers to prefetchable video memory.

I'm not sure why the term 'prefetchable' is missing from your report. It should be included by default.

Prefetchable video memory refers to memory addresses reserved specifically for the transfer of video data, and this memory may be prefetched when the "CPU guesses it may be needed in the future or because the code contains explicit prefetch instructions".
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#144 Post by radky »

bigpup and 666philb,

It seems your NVIDIA PCs show two prefetchable addresses of video RAM.

EDIT: file removed
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#145 Post by bigpup »

Pup-Sysinfo 2.8.3
New func file.
I now get this.

Devices>Display>Summary
VGA controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 [GeForce GTX 1070] [10de:1b81] (rev a1)
• Kernel Driver: nvidia
• Memory Used by Driver: 16108.00 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/4.19.12/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
• Driver Version: 410.78
• Description: N/A
• Video RAM: 8192 M total, 256M32M prefetchable
From Devices>Display>Complete
VGA controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 [GeForce GTX 1070] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Dell Device 119d
Flags: bus master, fast device select, latency 0
Interrupt Request (IRQ): 136
Memory at de000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at e000
[virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
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#146 Post by radky »

bigpup,

To show total RAM and all prefetchable RAM on one single line, could you test the attached func file.

EDIT: file removed

Thanks
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#147 Post by perdido »

Hi radky,
More info the better I hope.
Nvidia card, a relatively underpowered version compared to some.

Your most recent func (testerday's) installed to PupSysinfo-2.8.1 upupbb-18.05

Devices>Display>Summary
Updated func from yesterday
VGA controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [Quadro NVS 160M] [10de:06eb] (rev a1)
• Kernel Driver: nvidia
• Memory Used by Driver: 10075.57 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/4.9.96-lxpup-32-pae/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
• Driver Version: 304.137
• Description: N/A
• Video RAM: 256 M total, 256M prefetchable
Original func version

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VGA controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [Quadro NVS 160M] [10de:06eb] (rev a1)
• Kernel Driver: nvidia
• Memory Used by Driver: 10075.57 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/4.9.96-lxpup-32-pae/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
• Driver Version: 304.137
• Description: N/A
• Video RAM: 256M
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

From Devices>Display>Complete
Updated func from yesterday
VGA controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [Quadro NVS 160M] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Dell Device 0233
Flags: bus master, fast device select, latency 0
Interrupt Request (IRQ): 16
Memory at f5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at f2000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at df00
[virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]

Original func version

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VGA controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [Quadro NVS 160M] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Dell Device 0233
Flags: bus master, fast device select, latency 0
Interrupt Request (IRQ): 16
Memory at f5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at f2000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at df00 [size=128]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
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#148 Post by foxpup »

radky wrote:If I understand correctly, 'Unified memory' refers to Unified Memory Architecture (UMA), also know as Integrated Graphics or Shared Graphics, where system RAM provides shared memory for graphics rendering.
@radky
Thank you for the explanation.
So the 1536M video RAM is actually part of the 8G RAM, and not additional?

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#149 Post by radky »

perdido wrote:Hi radky,
More info the better I hope.
Nvidia card, a relatively underpowered version compared to some.
Thanks perdido. Your report is much appreciated! :)

Hopefully, bigpup will also test the most recent func revision (or other users with video cards that allocate two prefetchable memory addresses).
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#150 Post by radky »

foxpup wrote:Thank you for the explanation.
So the 1536M video RAM is actually part of the 8G RAM, and not additional?
Hi foxpup,

Yes, for your PC with integrated graphics, I think the 1536M represents shared memory allocated from the 8G system RAM.

Thanks for testing!
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#151 Post by bigpup »

radky wrote:bigpup,

To show total RAM and all prefetchable RAM on one single line, could you test the attached func file.

Thanks
Here is what I get with this new func file.
VGA controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 [GeForce GTX 1070] [10de:1b81] (rev a1)
• Kernel Driver: nvidia
• Memory Used by Driver: 16108.00 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/4.19.12/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
• Driver Version: 410.78
• Description: N/A
• Video RAM: 8192 M total, 256M 32M prefetchable
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#152 Post by radky »

bigpup wrote: Here is what I get with this new func file.

• Video RAM: 8192 M total, 256M 32M prefetchable
Thank you!
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#153 Post by radky »

Pup-SysInfo-2.8.5
- Adjust CPU report: switch from dmidecode to direct parsing of /sys/devices for Min/Max Speed, and /proc/cpuinfo for assessment of Core Count and 64-bit capability
- Adjust Video report: call glxinfo to assess total video memory, and lspci to determine prefetchable video memory
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#154 Post by foxpup »

On the same Optimus machine, I have tried PupSysInfo in Slacko64-6.3.2.
This is what it gives for display device:
====> Video <====

Display Specifications:
+ Screen Dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (341x191 millimeters)
+ Screen Depth: 24 bits (planes)

Xorg Startup Log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
+ Xorg Driver in use: intel
+ Loaded Modules: dbe ddc extmod fb fbdevhw glx int10 kbd mouse shadow vbe vesa
+ X.Org version: 1.14.3

OpenGL 2D/3D Rendering:
+ Direct Rendering: Yes
+ Vendor: Mesa Project
+ Renderer: Software Rasterizer
+ Version: 2.1 Mesa 9.1.7

VGA compatible controller:
+ Intel Corporation Device 1916 (rev 07)
+ Video RAM: 256M prefetchable
I have tried both the original 2.6.3 version and 2.8.5, same result.

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#155 Post by radky »

foxpup wrote:On the same Optimus machine, I have tried PupSysInfo in Slacko64-6.3.2.

+ Video RAM: 256M prefetchable
Hi foxpup,

PupSysInfo-2.8.5 calls glxinfo to show video memory as part of the extended renderer information defined by GLX_MESA_query_renderer (if supported).

In legacy slacko64-6.3.2, glxinfo does not show extended renderer information, so total VRAM does not appear in the video report of PupSysInfo.
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#156 Post by foxpup »

Hi radky

Thanks for explaining.
I already thought it has to do with other version of glxinfo and/or lspci.
Just thought it was good to mention though.

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#157 Post by radky »

Pup-SysInfo-2.8.6
- Add support for detection of lm85 chipsets in sensors report (assuming kernel support for same)
- Adjust compatibility with recent changes in Woof-CE -- properly parse WOOF_VERSION and os-release in Distro Specs report
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#158 Post by puppy_apprentice »

PSI shows always the same current (MAX) speeds for both cores.
FST shows always various current speeds (see screenshot).

So my question is why PSI is showing those values. Is options like eg. Mainboard/CPU or Devices/Sensors are consuming so much CPU power or those values are collected once when PSI starts?
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#159 Post by radky »

puppy_apprentice wrote:PSI shows always the same current (MAX) speeds for both cores.
FST shows always various current speeds (see screenshot).
@puppy_apprentice,

The code for assessing CPU 'core speed' is similar in PupSysInfo and wcpufreq (a.k.a CPU Frequency Scaling Tool).

However, PupSysInfo also integrates the 'core speed' with dmidecode data and this may add slightly to the overall CPU load as the report is generated. Possibly, for entry-level processors such as your Celeron N3050, generating the report may result in a transient spike to maximum cpu frequency.
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#160 Post by puppy_apprentice »

OK. I was afraid that powersafe governor not working.

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