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I can not use mouse when i use xenial when he use only RAM
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roberto06

Joined: 06 Feb 2019
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2019, 10:26    Post subject:  I can not use mouse when i use xenial when he use only RAM  

Hi all,
I can not use m'y mouse when i start xenial only on RAM on m'y computer portable, xenial be in an USB drive.( i want not installé xenial on m'y computer i want juste hé use RAM)

Help me please
Thanks in advance

Sorry for m'y english i am french
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2019, 10:29    Post subject:  

Is this a wired or wireless mouse?
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roberto06

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2019, 10:48    Post subject:  

Hi, it is an wired mouse
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williams2

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2019, 15:22    Post subject:  

Allez ici. Quelqu'un peut vous aider.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php?f=26
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OldAcer

Joined: 22 Jul 2016
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2019, 07:31    Post subject:  

What does Menu->Setup->Mouse/Keyboard Wizzard say?

If your mouse is USB, then you can use Console (icon on desktop), "lsusb" command (without quotes) to see if it is recognized.

If your mouse is serial, then maybe Console command "lspci | more" will show it, I am not sure. The "pipe command" [|] followed by "more" command is because there will be more than a screen of PCI devices shown.

If you can borrow another mouse, you could see if it can be configured, and then solve the problem with your own mouse.
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2019, 11:55    Post subject:  

Hello roberto06,

Welcome to the kennels. Smile

When posting about a problem always tell us specifics about (1) the make and model of the computer; (2) the exact name of the Puppy [there are, for example, about 6 xenialpups]; and (3) if it involves some device, the make and model of the device. In your case, the make and model of the USB-Mouse.
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OldAcer

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Feb 2019, 19:39    Post subject:  

Quote:
What does Menu->Setup->Mouse/Keyboard Wizzard say?


Sorry, I forgot that you cant access the menu without a mouse.

When you get the first blue text screen at boot, use down-arrow key to select "without graphics", that will get you a command prompt.

You might try the bottom entry "for severe video problems", although your video is actually OK, there might be a text-only method to select input drivers.

I found that the executable for "Mouse-keyboard-Wizard" is called "input-wizard" and is located, in my version of Xenial, in ./usr/sbin and /initrd/pup_ro2/usr/sbin. Its a graphical program that opens on the X desktop, but you can navigate in it with arrow-keys and enter-key.

From a command prompt, you can read "./root/Startup/README.txt". That file says "Any executable or scripts (or symlink to) placed in this directory will be executed after the X desktop has loaded." So if you put a link or copy of "input-wizard" in the Startup directory, and then let it boot to the X desktop, you should be able to run "input-wizard" using the keyboard.

Hopefully, changes to Startup will be saved to your boot USB stick when you shut down. Otherwise, you will have to use the "mount" command to access your boot flash-drive from the Puppy command prompt and figure out how to save your changes.

You may need to locate a driver from the Internet for your particular mouse.

Once you find what you need, "./root/Startup/README.txt" says "if you want to execute something at bootup and prior to X desktop loading, edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local".

Again, simple method is to try other mouse until one works, and use it to figure out your mouse.
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roberto06

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Feb 2019, 11:06    Post subject:  

Hi thanks, i am back, my computer be an Laptop.

Thé name of my computer be:

Asus vivobook
Intel pentium M

Behind of my computer there is write so this:
X405U
Notbook pc

I use the last version of xenial: xenial pup 64. 7.5
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Sun 10 Feb 2019, 12:17    Post subject: Asus vivobook X405U -- Mouse not functional  

Hi All,

Asus vivobook X405U -- Mouse not functional, I've got to run but maybe someone can provide instructions regarding how to boot "nomodeset" or "pci=nomsi" with Xenialpup.

Possible glue (or 'Red Herring") derived from here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2402972

The above also suggests a possible "missing firmware" issue.
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Mon 11 Feb 2019, 14:06    Post subject:  

I'm guessing. Never had the problem and scripting isn't my strong suit.

Booting from a USB-Key, roberto06's boot-config will probably have a line which looks like one of these, depending on which bootloader is on the USB-Key:

kernel /vmlinuz

linux /vmlinuz

The above may be followed by boot arguments, and identify the folder in which the vmlinuz file is located for example:

kernel /xenial/vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash psubdir=xenial pfix=fsck

I think the Asus vivobook model X405U uses NVIDIA graphics, specifically GeForce® 940MX graphics

My guess is that either or both the arguments "nomodeset" and "pci=nomsi" could be added as folllows:

kernel /xenial/vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash psubdir=xenial nomodeset pci=nomsi pfix=fsck

I know even less about GeForce graphics drivers and firmware. Note that the OP's version seems to be GeForce® 940MX. Anyone have any ideas whether Xenial or some other Puppy has builtin support for it.

Or has the OP given up the project or the ghost.
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OldAcer

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Feb 2019, 17:58    Post subject:  

Roberto, when you boot from USB stick, you see the Xenial desktop screen with icons, correct?
If not, a different problem.

On a laptop, you have "touch pad" as "pointing device" instead of actual mouse like desktop. However, you could still borrow a USB external mouse, plugged in before boot, and see if Xenial will recognize it.
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musher0

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Feb 2019, 18:52    Post subject:  

Hello mikeslr, Roberto and all.

IIRC, GeForce is an NVidia product. Maybe Roberto should
try choosing NVidia as the video driver in the XorgWizard
utility and see if that produces good results.

BFN.

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OldAcer

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2019, 04:30    Post subject:  

Quote:
try choosing NVidia as the video driver in the XorgWizard

If screen is shown OK except for touchpad pointer, that could be video problem?
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roberto06

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2019, 09:29    Post subject:  

Hi thanks all,

Yes i see the desktop screen with icons.
The keyboard work so.
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2019, 15:49    Post subject:  

roberto06 wrote:
Hi, it is an wired mouse

I assume a USB connection.
Try a different USB port.
Make sure mouse is plugged in when you boot.

If this is a fresh new install of Xenialpup to a USB flash drive.
It could just be a bad install.
Delete the install.
Reformat the drive partition to make sure the file system is error free.
Do a fresh new install of Xenialpup.

Could do a fresh new download of the Xenialpup iso.
Sometimes you do not get a good iso download.

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