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exton


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Mar 2019, 07:49    Post subject:  PuppEX Bionic 64 bit
Subject description: Compatible with Ubuntu 18.04 :: Build 190331 :: with kernel 5.0.5-puppex
 

NEWS 190331 about PuppEX Bionic64
Yesterday I released my first version of PuppEX Bionic64. After that I have discovered a way to install and run Spotify in PuppEX. So now you can run YouTube, Netflix and Spotify in the new PuppEX version of 190331. What more can one wish for?

Spotify is running in PuppEX Build 190331

ABOUT PuppEX Bionic Build 190330
My newest Puppy derivative is built from Puppy Linux 8.0 BionicPup 64 bit. I have added Google Chrome (for Netflix), PCManFM, LXTerminal and many development tools. I have also compiled a new kernel – 5.0.5-puppex. Kernel 5.0.5 is the latest stable kernel available from Kernel.org as of 190330. Furthermore I have installed Nvidia’s Proprietary Graphics driver 418.56. The Nvidia driver will be used if your computer/card is “good/modern” enough. If not automatically just open up a terminal and run the command nvidia-xconfig. Then restart X. Note: Firefox can’t be used in Puppy Linux. You won’t have sound.

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ally


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Mar 2019, 08:40    Post subject:  

mirrored here: http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_puppex and here: http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_Bionicpup64

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exton


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PostPosted: Sun 31 Mar 2019, 07:26    Post subject: PuppEX Bionic64
Subject description: New release 190331
 

NEWS 190331 about PuppEX Bionic64
Yesterday I released my first version of PuppEX Bionic64. After that I have discovered a way to install and run Spotify in PuppEX. So now you can run YouTube, Netflix and Spotify in the new PuppEX version of 190331. What more can one wish for?

Spotify is running in PuppEX Build 190331

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wuwei


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PostPosted: Mon 15 Apr 2019, 03:02    Post subject: PuppEX
Subject description: video drivers
 

Hi Exton,

appreciate the hard work you did to produce this very promising derivate.
Unfortunately it doesn't work properly on my machine.
I have a Nvidia GT218 for graphics and this doesn't cooperate with your Puppy.
The initial resolution is awfully low and can't be reset.
Of course I tried your nvidia-xconfig in the terminal. It returns a validation error. Manually adjusting the xorgwizard didn't work either.
So unfortunately, no dice.

I'm wondering, though. Why does the stock Bionicpup work out of the box, and yours does not? What changed and why?

Thanks
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RickGT351

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Apr 2019, 21:14    Post subject:  

Hi Exton, I installed Puppex ionic onto a flash drive and it booted ok. Then I created a savefile and restarted the computer. The result was a blank screen with a flashing cursor. I deleted the savefile and it booted ok again.
I then tried making another version using the Puppy installer in the distro in case it changed anything but got the same result after rebooting.
This looks like it will be a handy distro if I can get around this hiccup.
Thanks
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csipesz


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Apr 2019, 10:09    Post subject:  

Hi. As wuwei, my experience detto, with my gt 630 card; anything not good with this...
It may not have been a good idea to integrate that nvidia driver. - Anyway, I really like your work, I'm making my own version of it Smile .
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exton


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Apr 2019, 14:43    Post subject:  

csipesz wrote:
Hi. As wuwei, my experience detto, with my gt 630 card; anything not good with this...
It may not have been a good idea to integrate that nvidia driver. - Anyway, I really like your work, I'm making my own version of it :) .


On certain computers you may have to add nomodeset or/and acpi=off to the kernel line.
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exton


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Apr 2019, 14:44    Post subject:  

RickGT351 wrote:
Hi Exton, I installed Puppex ionic onto a flash drive and it booted ok. Then I created a savefile and restarted the computer. The result was a blank screen with a flashing cursor. I deleted the savefile and it booted ok again.
I then tried making another version using the Puppy installer in the distro in case it changed anything but got the same result after rebooting.
This looks like it will be a handy distro if I can get around this hiccup.
Thanks


On certain computers you may have to add nomodeset or/and acpi=off to the kernel line.
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wuwei


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Apr 2019, 06:22    Post subject: PuppEX graphics  

exton wrote:
csipesz wrote:
Hi. As wuwei, my experience detto, with my gt 630 card; anything not good with this...
It may not have been a good idea to integrate that nvidia driver. - Anyway, I really like your work, I'm making my own version of it Smile .


On certain computers you may have to add nomodeset or/and acpi=off to the kernel line.


Wish it was that easy. Added both commands to the kernel line, booted, after setup restart X and open terminal. nvidia-xconfig.
Result is this message:
VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
Device section "Card0" must have a Driver line.

What now?
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2019, 10:55    Post subject: Re: PuppEX graphics  

wuwei wrote:
exton wrote:
csipesz wrote:
Hi. As wuwei, my experience detto, with my gt 630 card; anything not good with this...
It may not have been a good idea to integrate that nvidia driver. - Anyway, I really like your work, I'm making my own version of it Smile .


On certain computers you may have to add nomodeset or/and acpi=off to the kernel line.


Wish it was that easy. Added both commands to the kernel line, booted, after setup restart X and open terminal. nvidia-xconfig.
Result is this message:
VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
Device section "Card0" must have a Driver line.

What now?


You can't add "nomodeset" if you want to use the Nvidia driver.
What happens if you don't run "nvidia-xconfig"?
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wuwei


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PostPosted: Sat 20 Apr 2019, 03:56    Post subject: resolution  

exton wrote:
"You can't add "nomodeset" if you want to use the Nvidia driver.
What happens if you don't run "nvidia-xconfig"?"

Now you got me totally confused.
Didn't you propose to add "nomodeset" to the kernel line further up?
Anyway, out of the box PuppEx Bionic opens with an awful large resolution.
xorgwizard doesn't work
your kernel lines don't work
"nvidia-xconfig" in terminal doesn't work.

I wonder, why the stock bionics works properly on first boot?
Anyway, if you have a working solution for a non-programmer-user...great. Otherwise I just stay with the stock version.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Apr 2019, 04:07    Post subject: screenshot  

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exton


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PostPosted: Sat 20 Apr 2019, 05:27    Post subject: Re: resolution  

wuwei wrote:
exton wrote:
"You can't add "nomodeset" if you want to use the Nvidia driver.
What happens if you don't run "nvidia-xconfig"?"

Now you got me totally confused.
Didn't you propose to add "nomodeset" to the kernel line further up?
Anyway, out of the box PuppEx Bionic opens with an awful large resolution.
xorgwizard doesn't work
your kernel lines don't work
"nvidia-xconfig" in terminal doesn't work.

I wonder, why the stock bionics works properly on first boot?
Anyway, if you have a working solution for a non-programmer-user...great. Otherwise I just stay with the stock version.


nomodeset: I said on "certain computers you may have to add..."
On one of my computers (laptop) with an Nvidia card I have to add "nomodeset". On another - also with an Nvidia card - the card is automatically recognized and used.

"Awful large resolution": That can be changed from within Puppy/PuppEX. Go to Setup >> Screen and change to the resolution you want/need.

Since the "stock version" works so good for you I see no reason for you to use PuppEX.

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Apr 2019, 14:59    Post subject: Re: PuppEX Bionic 64 bit
Subject description: Compatible with Ubuntu 18.04 :: Build 190331 :: with kernel 5.0.5-puppex
 

exton wrote:
NEWS 190331 about PuppEX Bionic64
Yesterday I released my first version of PuppEX Bionic64. After that I have discovered a way to install and run Spotify in PuppEX. So now you can run YouTube, Netflix and Spotify in the new PuppEX version of 190331. What more can one wish for?

Spotify is running in PuppEX Build 190331

ABOUT PuppEX Bionic Build 190330
My newest Puppy derivative is built from Puppy Linux 8.0 BionicPup 64 bit. I have added Google Chrome (for Netflix), PCManFM, LXTerminal and many development tools. I have also compiled a new kernel – 5.0.5-puppex. Kernel 5.0.5 is the latest stable kernel available from Kernel.org as of 190330. Furthermore I have installed Nvidia’s Proprietary Graphics driver 418.56. The Nvidia driver will be used if your computer/card is “good/modern” enough. If not automatically just open up a terminal and run the command nvidia-xconfig. Then restart X. Note: Firefox can’t be used in Puppy Linux. You won’t have sound.

READ MORE...


I'm downloading this now mostly because I want to know what is in "xdg_autostart.sh" This file seems to be referenced by the latest puppylinux WoofCE menu templates but isn't defined in WoofCE and isn't part of the xdg autostart specification. I noticed at:
http://puppex.exton.net/puppex-bionic64-installed-packages-190330.txt

that you have this package included in your build. That all said, later on, I will try to learn more about what makes this pup unique.

Edit 1 So taking a look at the file it looks like it autostarts .desktop files located in the folders::
Code:

$HOME/.config/autostart/*.desktop
/etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop

Slacko64-6.9.9.9 seems to use the folder "$HOME/.config/autostart/*.desktop" to start desktop files but I don't see this "xdg_auotostart.sh" mechanism to do so. I wonder what alternative mechanism it might use.

As a side note there is also the folder $HOME/Startup to startup executable scripts when the dekstop starts.

Edit 2
Looking at commit 029509e8d3589eb98fc69595853414f499b8fab0 it looks like this script was added by wdlkmpx on Aug 19, 2018. The startup command in the jwm template:
Code:

<StartupCommand>
for i in $HOME/.config/autostart/*.desktop;do if [ -f $i ];then xdg-open $i;fi;done
</StartupCommand>

jwm_config/etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc

was replaced with:
Code:

<StartupCommand>xdg_autostart.sh</StartupCommand>
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RickGT351

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PostPosted: Tue 21 May 2019, 09:53    Post subject:  

Update: It seems that Puppex Bionic does not like the Folder option for a savefile. I made a new savefile using File instead of Folder and it worked ok.

exton wrote:
RickGT351 wrote:
Hi Exton, I installed Puppex ionic onto a flash drive and it booted ok. Then I created a savefile and restarted the computer. The result was a blank screen with a flashing cursor. I deleted the savefile and it booted ok again.
I then tried making another version using the Puppy installer in the distro in case it changed anything but got the same result after rebooting.
This looks like it will be a handy distro if I can get around this hiccup.
Thanks


On certain computers you may have to add nomodeset or/and acpi=off to the kernel line.
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