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Precise-light - 17March2019 - for older hardware
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jrb


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PostPosted: Mon 15 Apr 2019, 09:12    Post subject:  

I figured out the peasycan sane problem. In Barry's Precise there's a package listed in DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS called "sane-backends" which I forgot to include in my Precise-light. It has three different Ubuntu .debs in it so I built it up as a .pet. This plus peasyscan works. Very Happy If there's popular demand I'll include it in the next update, otherwise just use these two .pets

sane_backends-1.0.22.pet
md5sum = 74546d3debef1f50e62a4fe54bdc595f sane_backends-1.0.22.pet

peasyscan-2.13.pet
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jrb


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Apr 2019, 11:33    Post subject:  

I just downloaded and used fredx181's ffportable-inst.gz to download and build the latest Firefox Quantum portable. Renamed the script to ffportable-inst. Right-clicked on it, went to "permissions" chose "yes", clicked on the script. A folder called "firefox_66.0.3_32" appeared. I went inside the folder, clicked "firefox", watched a couple of Youtube videos. Doesn't get any more up to date. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Apr 2019, 12:28    Post subject:  

Just downloaded the latest Calibre ebook viewer and converter , release (3.40.1), from here. Extracted the .txz package with UExtract, clicked on the "calibre" binary inside, read a passage from the Quick Start Guide, converted an .epub to .pdf and read a passage from that.
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musher0

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Apr 2019, 11:08    Post subject:  

Hello all.

A forum member reported on another thread a problem with a dead battery
on his/her old laptop, so I brushed up my htpdate script. I also upgraded the
htpdate utility to its latest version as of this writing, v. 1.2.0. Please find
attached a pet archive with htpdate compiled for PuppyPrecise-571L.

You can learn about htpdate, what it does, plus how and why it can be
useful, here.

Enjoy.
htpdate-1.2.0-32bits_PPrecise-571L.pet
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Filename  htpdate-1.2.0-32bits_PPrecise-571L.pet 
Filesize  16.75 KB 
Downloaded  83 Time(s) 

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futwerk

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Apr 2019, 19:46    Post subject:  

new backgrounds'
preciselight6.jpg
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preciselight3.jpg
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sheldonisaac

Joined: 21 Jun 2009
Posts: 861
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2019, 10:39    Post subject: Re: First .delta update  

jrb (in part) wrote:
I am issuing the first update using a .delta file.
Thanks a lot, jrb! Your directions were very clear. The updated
Precise-light booted fine:
Quote:
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 Apr 18 08:01 precisesave-apr18
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 82243616 Apr 14 20:42 puppy_precise_light-5.7.1.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1326001 Apr 14 20:33 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3574864 Apr 14 20:33 vmlinuz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27488288 Apr 14 20:33 zdrv_precise_light-5.7.1.sfs

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jrb


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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2019, 13:56    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
Hello all.

A forum member reported on another thread a problem with a dead battery
on his/her old laptop, so I brushed up my htpdate script. I also upgraded the
htpdate utility to its latest version as of this writing, v. 1.2.0. Please find
attached a pet archive with htpdate compiled for PuppyPrecise-571L.

You can learn about htpdate, what it does, plus how and why it can be
useful, here.

Enjoy.

Thanks musher, I've always used ntpdate but I'll give this a try.
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2019, 13:58    Post subject:  

futwerk wrote:
new backgrounds'

WOW! Thanks for the awesome art futwerk. Very Happy

Now lets see, which one shall I use? Confused

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2019, 14:01    Post subject: Re: First .delta update  

sheldonisaac wrote:
jrb (in part) wrote:
I am issuing the first update using a .delta file.
Thanks a lot, jrb! Your directions were very clear. The updated
Precise-light booted fine:
Quote:
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 Apr 18 08:01 precisesave-apr18
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 82243616 Apr 14 20:42 puppy_precise_light-5.7.1.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1326001 Apr 14 20:33 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3574864 Apr 14 20:33 vmlinuz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27488288 Apr 14 20:33 zdrv_precise_light-5.7.1.sfs

Glad to hear that Sheldon. I hope everything else is working as well as the boot.
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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2019, 17:48    Post subject:  

For those of you who find the playmusic+ffplay mediaplayer just a little too uncontrolled. (BTW, you can click within the display window to advance or return but it doesn't tell you how far or even where you are). This is a nice lightweight version of MPV that is still available. I have used it in everything from Precise to Bionicpup32. When you put your mouse cursor in the display window it provides a small gui. The binary is 18mb versus ffplay's 116kb but it is much more controllable.

mpv-20150814-git-i686-precise.pet

Thanks jlst.

I am attaching a very small .pet to convert over to playmusic+mpv. It even plays "opus" files, just for musher0, but you have to set the "Run Action" to "playmusic" on those files.
playmusic-mpv-0.1.pet
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musher0

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Apr 2019, 18:48    Post subject:  

Yeah, sure, like I'm the only person in the world using opus music files! Laughing
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iaiai

Joined: 21 Apr 2019
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2019, 10:46    Post subject: I appologize for beeing rude in advance  

Hi , sorry for being noob and jumping right in to discussion.
First thank you jrb for your hard and awesome work and for the kind work to thing about us OldDogs, is awesome to see someone to go back and refresh or do some work for old puppies , so that could be done on old hardware

wanted to write on this forum for longer time and asking about old puppies
how the packet management is handled or how to fix old pupp that their package support have been put down

sorry more to the topic
I'm running thar 6.0.6 right now , they have somehow fixed opera 12.15 so some websites work somehow with it (didn't work in 6.0.5 even it has same opera 12.15)

Palemoon doesn't work for me and guess for more people running on old AMD.
am still looking up more info but seems some processors that could be considered i686 don't have SSE2 that means not working applications that require it like palemoon or the blender 2.79b

question , may be going with different naming then i686 since even the manufacturers are inconsistent about the technology used in it ?
and may be going with just manufacture year ?

@perdido as old this machine is it is also little ... crazy, met with some weird thing
if i have the processor on higher then 1000 Mhz , and download some large files like 100+ MB the package is corrupted

NOW THE FUN THING this corruption is not checkable with MD5 sum method , only SHA256 or higher can say that the downloaded file is corrupt
guess it would be better to abandon md5 in favor for something ... else ?

since sometimes the corruption isn't much visible (meaning can open or unpack a package , but when starting to work with the application strange things start to happen)

i don't say that the SHA256 is the best way since sometimes happened (could be that in that case was it a smaller file can't remember )
that sha256 sum showed OK and when checked second time ti goes CORRUPT
so may be someone who have more knowledge about checksums could bring up some light

but still better then md5 since it didn't recognize almost ever a corrupted
download

i understand that it's only my issue since i have bad HW, but could be a hint for someone that something is wrong with their HW

anyway keep up the good work looking forward to check on this puppy on my old machines
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watchdog

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2019, 11:35    Post subject: Re: I appologize for beeing rude in advance  

iaiai wrote:

Palemoon doesn't work for me and guess for more people running on old AMD.
am still looking up more info but seems some processors that could be considered i686 don't have SSE2 that means not working applications that require it like palemoon or the blender 2.79b


Have you tried the following palemoon?

ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/palemoon-27.9.4SSE.linux-i686.tar.bz2
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iaiai

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2019, 14:36    Post subject: Re: I appologize for beeing rude in advance  

watchdog wrote:
iaiai wrote:

Palemoon doesn't work for me and guess for more people running on old AMD.
am still looking up more info but seems some processors that could be considered i686 don't have SSE2 that means not working applications that require it like palemoon or the blender 2.79b


Have you tried the following palemoon?

ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/palemoon-27.9.4SSE.linux-i686.tar.bz2


Edit: Hmm this link seem to work, thank you

looking around, but so far it seem they stopped to release newer versions, and as with old Opera, don't know if older version of any browser will be any help for the "new' web (some pages not available or not drawn properly)

thanks anyway for such fast reply, i'm gonna keep looking for more info

BTW to the developers or some code mages , what would be needed to compile or hack around some mobile or tablet browsers (android) to work on old puppies ? as it seems there is also x86 version of android

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2019, 16:43    Post subject: Re: I appologize for beeing rude in advance  

iaiai wrote:
...BTW to the developers or some code mages , what would be needed to compile or hack around some mobile or tablet browsers (android) to work on old puppies ? as it seems there is also x86 version of android


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=899653#899653

Per 6502coder, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1018922#1018922 Seamonkey 2.35 functions on computers which only have sse. You can download that version from here: https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/. Scroll to the bottom Section Titled "Old and Unofficial Releases". then click the link to 2.35.

But there seems to be something seriously wrong with your system. The link provided by Watchdog to palemoon..sse does download the tar.bz2 file.
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