Puppy 2.15CE Look and Feel: Taking it to the next level...

A home for all kinds of Puppy related projects
Message
Author
User avatar
WhoDo
Posts: 4428
Joined: Wed 12 Jul 2006, 01:58
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Puppy 2.15CE Look and Feel: Taking it to the next level...

#1 Post by WhoDo »

I am considering these icons for Puppy 2.15CE Office edition. Any comments?

Image

I will upload a test package to the PSI repos for mirroring.

Cheers
Last edited by WhoDo on Wed 07 Mar 2007, 04:23, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Previously known as Guest
Posts: 240
Joined: Thu 29 Sep 2005, 00:39

#2 Post by Previously known as Guest »

Verry cool & different. :) Office version only? Would love to check therm out.

User avatar
jason.b.c
Posts: 755
Joined: Wed 08 Feb 2006, 05:32
Location: Marshfield,MO
Contact:

#3 Post by jason.b.c »

Wow WhoDo ..1 Seriously awesome icons...GOOD JOB..!

Where do i download them..?
Puppy is Awesome..!!!!
[url=http://www.puppylinux.com/][img]http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/sig.png[/img][/url]

User avatar
mbutts
Posts: 230
Joined: Sat 11 Nov 2006, 13:36
Location: sitn on an iceburg waiting for my next meal to swim by.

#4 Post by mbutts »

nice frosted glass icons. theme seems to include all the important programs. rich looking.
Penguin, the OTHER white meat.
[url=http://www.puppyos.com][img]http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5563/yxudnslbsx1jpglx3.png[/img][/url][img]http://i18.tinypic.com/2wd7o80.gif[/img]

User avatar
WhoDo
Posts: 4428
Joined: Wed 12 Jul 2006, 01:58
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

#5 Post by WhoDo »

jason.b.c wrote:Wow WhoDo ..1 Seriously awesome icons...GOOD JOB..!

Where do i download them..?
Whoa, there Jason. I didn't create them. Mike Muschini aka Gryphen from the PCLinuxOS forum created them. Here is the license detail.

Image

I have uploaded the package to our mirror, and MU will include them when he can, but if you want to grab them sooner they are at http://www.kde-look.org.

If they spark enough interest, I'll approach Mike to create some specifically for Puppy to include with 2.15CE - but only if enough people in the community want that.

Cheers.

TonshA
Posts: 46
Joined: Sat 07 Oct 2006, 21:38

Re: Puppy 2.15CE Look and Feel: Taking it to the next level...

#6 Post by TonshA »

WhoDo wrote:I am considering these icons for Puppy 2.15CE Office edition. Any comments?
erm.... is "WOW!!" a comment? How about "AMAZING!!" ??

These are VERY impressive.

I sometimes get the feeling that reviewers tend to disregard Puppy because it looks a bit 'old fashioned/retro' or 'unpolished' or (heaven forbid) 'unfinished'. Of course, some people like the standard look, but 'some' is not 'most'.

With the kind of desktop experience we (and mainly you, WhoDo) are putting together for 2.15CE, I think people are going to sit up and take notice!

(It makes me feel humble anyway)

We are not worthy... :lol:

DaveA

User avatar
Lobster
Official Crustacean
Posts: 15522
Joined: Wed 04 May 2005, 06:06
Location: Paradox Realm
Contact:

#7 Post by Lobster »

:D My advice is whatever the objections, go with this.
This is the Wow factor. Puppy thanks to so much great effort works fast. Now it can look the way it is . . .

Woof woof
Puppy Raspup 8.2Final 8)
Puppy Links Page http://www.smokey01.com/bruceb/puppy.html :D

User avatar
Pizzasgood
Posts: 6183
Joined: Wed 04 May 2005, 20:28
Location: Knoxville, TN, USA

#8 Post by Pizzasgood »

Be careful about making them too big though. It can get crowded at lower resolutions.

Personally, I've always preferred colorful things to gray, but that's me, and leads me to do stuff like the old test-pattern splash screen Puppy used to have, which may have caused retinal damage to several people. :oops:

They do look pretty slick though, and they help the wallpaper show through (which compensates for their lack of color).

Thumbs up from me :)
[size=75]Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and depriving him of his life there exists only a difference of degree. --Muad'Dib[/size]
[img]http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/sig.png[/img]

User avatar
MU
Posts: 13649
Joined: Wed 24 Aug 2005, 16:52
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany
Contact:

#9 Post by MU »

http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups ... _icons.pup

please send me a PM when you uploaded files, or I might oversee them :) .
We have so many messages in the forum, that I can't read each one any more :roll:

Mark

User avatar
WhoDo
Posts: 4428
Joined: Wed 12 Jul 2006, 01:58
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

#10 Post by WhoDo »

Pizzasgood wrote:Personally, I've always preferred colorful things to gray, but that's me, ...[snip]

They do look pretty slick though, and they help the wallpaper show through (which compensates for their lack of color).
The ones I really like do incorporate color. Check out the firefox icon with a frosted firefox wrapped around a blue globe. If everyone likes them, and the feedback is pretty positive so far, I'll ask Gryphen if he can do a few especially for Puppy.

The clear ones would allow a change in theme, including wallpaper, without needing to adapt desktop icons to match. That was my thinking on them originally.

Cheers

User avatar
WhoDo
Posts: 4428
Joined: Wed 12 Jul 2006, 01:58
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

#11 Post by WhoDo »

MU wrote:please send me a PM when you uploaded files, or I might oversee them :) .
We have so many messages in the forum, that I can't read each one any more :roll:
No problems, Mark. I just thought you might occasionally be scanning the ftp uploads at your leisure, but I'll PM next time, no problem.

Thanks for providing the link in this thread.

Cheers

User avatar
MU
Posts: 13649
Joined: Wed 24 Aug 2005, 16:52
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany
Contact:

#12 Post by MU »

they really look great.
I prefer them to all those modern Windows icon clones :)

Yes, such a firefox-icon would look great I think.

Mark

User avatar
MU
Posts: 13649
Joined: Wed 24 Aug 2005, 16:52
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany
Contact:

#13 Post by MU »

No, I don't control /incoming at puppyfiles.org, only puppyisos.org.

It really gets time I finish the webinterface to upload on your own.

Maybe this weekend.
Mark
Last edited by MU on Wed 07 Mar 2007, 23:57, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
WhoDo
Posts: 4428
Joined: Wed 12 Jul 2006, 01:58
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Re: Puppy 2.15CE Look and Feel: Taking it to the next level.

#14 Post by WhoDo »

TonshA wrote:erm.... is "WOW!!" a comment? How about "AMAZING!!" ??

These are VERY impressive.

I sometimes get the feeling that reviewers tend to disregard Puppy because it looks a bit 'old fashioned/retro' or 'unpolished' or (heaven forbid) 'unfinished'. Of course, some people like the standard look, but 'some' is not 'most'.

With the kind of desktop experience we (and mainly you, WhoDo) are putting together for 2.15CE, I think people are going to sit up and take notice!
That's what I'm aiming for, Dave. Coming from you the reaction shows me that we're definitely on the right track for look-and-feel issues. Thanks, mate.

Cheers

User avatar
jason.b.c
Posts: 755
Joined: Wed 08 Feb 2006, 05:32
Location: Marshfield,MO
Contact:

#15 Post by jason.b.c »

Um Ok , Woah...!

Serious Snafu here...!

Ok , I've downloaded all the these icon's from www.kdelook.org , Now try to stay with me here.., In that picture in the first post that WhoDo posted - The icons look great..! , I mean awesome.! , But when i downloaded and extracted them - And tried to use them to replace some of my current icons - they look absolutely Horrible..!

You can't see half of them and the one's you can see you can't make out fully...

Example - When i apply the "Firefox1.png" icon to my desktop it is:

(1) - Way too small to make out what it is and that it is a "Fox" wrapped around an earth globe..

(2) - the reason why the icons look the way they do is because all the color has been removed from them , Not because they've been "Glassed" or "Frosted"..

i applied a darker background on my desktop and the icons don't show up much at all at that point...

In that picture the icons look good , yea , But notice how larger they are..?

Did anyone else notice any of this..??? Sorry for sounding so negative...
Puppy is Awesome..!!!!
[url=http://www.puppylinux.com/][img]http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/sig.png[/img][/url]

User avatar
WhoDo
Posts: 4428
Joined: Wed 12 Jul 2006, 01:58
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

#16 Post by WhoDo »

jason.b.c wrote:In that picture in the first post that WhoDo posted - The icons look great..! , I mean awesome.! , But when i downloaded and extracted them - And tried to use them to replace some of my current icons - they look absolutely Horrible..!
Not negative, just disappointed I'd say. Here are a couple of screenshots I put together to show how the icons will look in their real life application. I know exactly what you're talking about, and I too was disappointed in some of the icons.

Image

Image

The icons here are 48x48, so they're not really small. Screen resolution is 1024x768 - not really very high - and the two backgrounds are in Beta1 by default.

Any other comments?

User avatar
Pizzasgood
Posts: 6183
Joined: Wed 04 May 2005, 20:28
Location: Knoxville, TN, USA

#17 Post by Pizzasgood »

Use the other gnumeric icon (the one without the blue thing in the grid) for the calender, it fits the part more. Also, make sure you load up Gimp and edit out the "PCLinux" bits from the "Computer" and "Console" icons.

Otherwise, it looks great. Even better than the fast job I did a couple minutes ago when trying them out.

BTW, is that just a personal WhoDo setting where you have the window-decorations enabled on Xmms? As in the release version won't have it enabled? I know the beta didn't.
[size=75]Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and depriving him of his life there exists only a difference of degree. --Muad'Dib[/size]
[img]http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/sig.png[/img]

User avatar
WhoDo
Posts: 4428
Joined: Wed 12 Jul 2006, 01:58
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

#18 Post by WhoDo »

Pizzasgood wrote:BTW, is that just a personal WhoDo setting where you have the window-decorations enabled on Xmms? As in the release version won't have it enabled? I know the beta didn't.
On a different machine to the one where I prepared the beta. This machine is shared with someone else, and I guess he fiddles with settings or something. Frankly, I just didn't notice.

Thanks for the heads up anyway, mate.

Cheers

User avatar
puppyfan12
Posts: 140
Joined: Mon 04 Dec 2006, 17:25
Location: Ontario, Canada

#19 Post by puppyfan12 »

Very very impressive look to those screenshots WhoDo! Kudos for putting them together.

If going with the white icons, please read this post re: firefox / thunderbird licensing and the logo usage.

What if we took the firefox source and compiled our own build called "puppy browser" and kept the version numbers in sync with the official firefox binary releases, just like ice weasel? We could also do the same with Thunderbird or Pupmail or whatever we wanted to call it...
Joe D.

User avatar
Lobster
Official Crustacean
Posts: 15522
Joined: Wed 04 May 2005, 06:06
Location: Paradox Realm
Contact:

Woof woof

#20 Post by Lobster »

These icons represent something central to the Puppy ideology. That is quite subtle. They have cut out the 'eye candy' of colour. Yet they are still eye candy.

Most of the existing icons are a bit from here a bit from there. These are a set.

A black white and grey theme is possible. Tweaking a design is easy for end users and is likely the first thing to try after or whilst testing programs. As far as I am concerned PCLinuxOS is the best looking Linux and as these came from there I feel confident.

I would suggest far greater priorities (after an alpha and beta release) are which WM and browser are being used? The windows or Firefox icons are easy to resolve once we have a stable feature set.

It is up to Warren based on advisement and prevailing preferences and his best judgement to decide on the direction and Vizion Viz is implementing :)

Is that possible?
Puppy Raspup 8.2Final 8)
Puppy Links Page http://www.smokey01.com/bruceb/puppy.html :D

Post Reply