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watchdog

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PostPosted: Sun 05 May 2019, 00:32    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:


What processors do you both have??

Do you get the problem on both ScPup32 and ScPup64??


I have the problem on both ScPup32 and ScPup64 and I remember Upupdd and Upupcc. I posted my inxi report at:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1026054#1026054

I have solved my issue compiling mplayer with the default config settings.
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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Sun 05 May 2019, 08:28    Post subject:  

This is MPlayer 1.4 compiled in ScPup32 with my choice of options.
GUI enabled with default "Blue" skin included.
(can be used as gmplayer or with gnome-mplayer as frontend)
Binary codecs included in /usr/lib/mplayer/codecs (not likely to be needed but not difficult to do).
Added to Right-click > Open With options
Added -lavdopts threads=2 in .desktop file for multi-thread playback of some formats such as hevc (which often needs it).
Uploaded for testing for a short while
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/mplayer-gui-1.4-i686-scpup.pet

By the way, the creation of pet.specs file in dir2pet is fixed,
BUT new2dir is still not writing the symlinks into new dir
So when compiling to build a package with new2dir make install, you have to know and remember to add them manually.
mplayer-gui-scpup32.jpg
 Description   built with --enable-runtime-cpudetection and --enable-gui
 Filesize   64.47 KB
 Viewed   1030 Time(s)

mplayer-gui-scpup32.jpg


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PostPosted: Sat 11 May 2019, 08:47    Post subject:  

Versions 19.04+3 - see posts #1 and #2
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PostPosted: Tue 21 May 2019, 11:28    Post subject:  

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/files/Other/Desktops/LXQt-ydrv/

ydrv's to change ScPup 32 & 64 to the LXQt desktop

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Wiz57


Joined: 03 Feb 2019
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Location: Chickasha, OK

PostPosted: Thu 23 May 2019, 17:58    Post subject:  

Hi peebee!
I'm tempted to try out the ydrv for ScPup 32 for LxQT desktop, but
curious...this old netbook (Acer Aspire One A150 aka ZG5, Intel Atom
N270, Intel graphics) only has 1 gig RAM...do you think LxQT would
"run"?? What I might do is make a second frugal install on the HD of
ScPup, then swap the ydrv for LxQT, add my Palemoon, then edit
my menu.lst to include LxQTPupSC and see what happens!! Not sure
what the system requirements are for QT5, but my curiosity is piqued!
Any ideas?
Wiz Wink
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norgo


Joined: 13 Nov 2015
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PostPosted: Mon 27 May 2019, 16:23    Post subject:  

Wiz57 wrote:
...this old netbook (Acer Aspire One A150 aka ZG5, Intel Atom
N270, Intel graphics) only has 1 gig RAM...do you think LxQT would
"run"??...

I am not peebee but maybe you accept my answer too.
YES 1GB is definitively sufficient to run LXQT.

here a screenshot of my 13 years old laptop with 1 GB RAM running peebee's ScPup and LXQT.
scpup_lxqt.png
 Description   LXQT ScPup 1 GB RAM
 Filesize   116.22 KB
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Wiz57


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PostPosted: Mon 27 May 2019, 17:54    Post subject:  

Thank you norgo!
Looks pretty good! Think I'll give it a go as well.
Wiz
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Jun 2019, 04:21    Post subject:  

Should this be released as Puppy 8.1 Community Edition? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jun 2019, 04:26    Post subject:  

Versions 19.06+0 - see posts #1 and #2

New base iso
Woof-CE update
New kernels
Slackware Current updates

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darry19662018

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jun 2019, 06:13    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
Versions 19.06+0 - see posts #1 and #2

New base iso
Woof-CE update
New kernels
Slackware Current updates


Very nice so far running on a compaq dv6000.

Everything worked out of the box as well as package manager.

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jun 2019, 08:12    Post subject:  

Thanks peebee! As usual, updated this old netbook with ScPup 19.06 +0 32 bit, no problems! Updated the savefile, here with it now.
Much appreciated, a very stable and smooth puppy!
Wiz Very Happy
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Terry H

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jun 2019, 17:26    Post subject:  

Downloaded ScPup64-19.06+0. Manual frugal install, updated an existing save folder. All working well. Another great release peebee.

Code:

# inxi -CSI
System:    Host: puppypc1956 Kernel: 5.1.6-lxpup64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: ScPup64 19.06
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5-5200U (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           clock speeds: max: 2700 MHz 1: 1559 MHz 2: 1241 MHz 3: 1910 MHz 4: 1668 MHz
Info:      Processes: 128 Uptime: 15 min Memory: 373.5/7606.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Jun 2019, 02:37    Post subject:  

# inxi -CSI
System: Host: puppypc30408 Kernel: 4.14.123-lxpup-32-pae i686 (32 bit)
Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: ScPup 19.06
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo T5450 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
clock speeds: max: 1667 MHz 1: 1125 MHz 2: 1039 MHz
Info: Processes: 123 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 248.5/998.2MB
Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Jun 2019, 10:35    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
Should this be released as Puppy 8.1 Community Edition? Very Happy


Well, no, not yet anyway.

I am running ScPup64 19.06 right now, very nice.

Examining /root/.packages, I see that the PPM will only be installing from the 14.2 repositories.

A problem with the slackware64-current package repository is that it may undergo fundamental changes at any time, such as version changes of glibc or gcc. So, cannot install packages from it with the PPM.

That is a problem, for various reasons. As ScPup is built from slackware-current repo, there is no guarantee that 14.2 packages will work when installed from the PPM. You are going to be hitting library compatibility problems -- and a quick read through this thread shows that is happening.

File Slackware-packages64-14.2-official has dependencies for each package. It got these from the PACKAGES.TXT in the Salix repository, which is only for 14.2.

There are no dependencies available for packages in slackware64-current, that PACKAGES.TXT doesn't have them.

So, summarizing, I think that ScPup will have to wait until Slackware 15.0 is released, then build from those repos. Then you will have stable repos, that will be mirrored everywhere.

Hopefully Salix will update to 15.0 and their PACKAGES.TXT will have the package dependencies, that the 'setup' script in Woof will read, to create the Puppy-package-database format.

I think that the above statements are correct, hope not too confusing.

EDIT:
I should also note, if you compile an app in ScPup and create a PET, there is no guarantee that it will work in a future release of ScPup.

That is, if a future release builds from latest slackware-current, the packages could have changed.

In summary again, Slackware is not suitable for the rolling-release model of distro, due to its lack of dependency management. I have thought how it could be added though ...have become intrigued by this. Slackware needs dependencies of each package, AND versions of each dependency.

EDIT:
I am working on a fix:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1030163#1030163

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Terry H

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Jun 2019, 11:07    Post subject:  

Terry H wrote:
Downloaded ScPup64-19.06+0. Manual frugal install, updated an existing save folder. All working well. Another great release peebee.

Code:

# inxi -CSI
System:    Host: puppypc1956 Kernel: 5.1.6-lxpup64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: ScPup64 19.06
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5-5200U (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           clock speeds: max: 2700 MHz 1: 1559 MHz 2: 1241 MHz 3: 1910 MHz 4: 1668 MHz
Info:      Processes: 128 Uptime: 15 min Memory: 373.5/7606.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8


I have changed this installation to create a new save folder, following booting with "pfix=ram". After this post I noticed that once a partition was mounted the icon displayed changed to a completely different icon. So appears there was an incompatibility with recent changes. So to not find any more of these little issues, it was best to start again.

This install with new save folder is functioning well.
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