EasyOS version 2.3.2, June 22, 2020

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#1701 Post by BarryK »

@Keef,
Audacious and mhWaveEdit are fixed:

http://bkhome.org/news/201908/audacious ... uster.html
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#1702 Post by Lobster »

Very exciting news ... still innovating eh ... :wink:
That is a good one. Look forward to the save option ...
The container feature is useful but I prefer DVD (ISO) booting and saving on SD or HD ... not the cloud (which seems incredibly open to breach)

Running in ram will be the way once a future Quantum Pup is produced but quantum storage for general usage is some way off ... ( Seem to have meandered off topic as usual ... :oops: )
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#1703 Post by BarryK »

BarryK wrote:I have been posting to my blog, many fixes and improvements not reported to this forum.

The latest improvement:

http://bkhome.org/news/201908/easyos-bo ... n-ram.html
Have done some more work on this, see appendum to the blog post.

It is now possible to mount the USB-stick partitions simply by replugging it.

So, files can be saved, but an actual save-session is for future consideration. It is easy enough to reboot as a normal bootup, if it is desired to save the session.
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#1704 Post by Sage »

Something missing in this discussion? The CD-RW is elegant simplicity. ALL the information is immediately available for booting. It is secure if 'closed' during writing. Being an -RW, it can be overwritten with any new releases or even someone else's distro! It doesn't need any of those funny start-up programmes on FD, which many machines don't possess and for which external FDD are rarer than hen's proverbials. On the other hand, external DVD - USB drives are still readily available for those who insist on accepting hobbled HW from our ever-profit seeking industry, determined to offer less-for-more. Progress has to be measured by ALL the variables - including consumer advantage. Let's not encourage the greedy b*****s.

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easyOS totally in RAM

#1705 Post by lp-dolittle »

@ Barry

@ Argolance

Fantastic!! Thank you for further developing the 'totally in RAM idea'!

As for the planned new boot options, I could imagine an additional option that might be highly appreciated by security-aware users.

If EasyOS, at start-up, apart from offering to load the 'last saved session' totally into RAM, could do the same with any stored 'snapshot', everyone had the option to create her/his own preferred specific 'RAM version' which would have a lot in common with a remastered CD-iso.

As far as I can see, this would be the option which Argolance was looking for, some days ago.

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Re: easyOS totally in RAM

#1706 Post by BarryK »

lp-dolittle wrote:@ Barry

@ Argolance

Fantastic!! Thank you for further developing the 'totally in RAM idea'!

As for the planned new boot options, I could imagine an additional option that might be highly appreciated by security-aware users.

If EasyOS, at start-up, apart from offering to load the 'last saved session' totally into RAM, could do the same with any stored 'snapshot', everyone had the option to create her/his own preferred specific 'RAM version' which would have a lot in common with a remastered CD-iso.

As far as I can see, this would be the option which Argolance was looking for, some days ago.

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Yes, there are various future possibilities. I intend to release Easy Buster 2.1 as-is at this stage of development, and get feedback on how it could be improved.

One really great thing, on modern UEFI-firmware PCs, the reFind boot manager remembers the last boot menu selection. So, if you want to bootup everytime with "totally running in RAM" option, you won't have to quickly change the menu selection in that 5-second pause, it will be automatically the default.
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#1707 Post by Argolance »

BarryK wrote:I intend to release Easy Buster 2.1 as-is at this stage of development, and get feedback on how it could be improved.
Well done! We look forward to this with great interest. :D

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#1709 Post by TiredPup »

Barry posted:
blgs wrote:
Photo 1 : All available repositories. I have selected 4 +1 (fixed). I performed a repositorie update and after pushing the OK buttor PPM restarts.
After the PPM has been restarted the next screen appears, see photo 2. Only two selected repositories appears and not 5.

Photo 3 is the software selection screen with only two active repositories.

You can select all 11 + 1 (fixed) but after restart of PPM only two (only pet-noarch-official and pet-buster-official) will be selected.

It is probably a bug. Anyway I do not understand it.


I have fixed the PPM, see blog post:

http://bkhome.org/news/201908/petget-up ... fixes.html
I downloaded Easy OS 2.0 from Ibiblio today and installed to usb drive using EasyDD. I used the flash drive to boot my desktop PC. I have had the same experience with petget package manager today that blgs experienced. You mentioned a fix for it and I read your blog post. Is there something that I missed?

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#1710 Post by blgs »

TiredPup wrote:Barry posted:
blgs wrote:
Photo 1 : All available repositories. I have selected 4 +1 (fixed). I performed a repositorie update and after pushing the OK buttor PPM restarts.
After the PPM has been restarted the next screen appears, see photo 2. Only two selected repositories appears and not 5.

Photo 3 is the software selection screen with only two active repositories.

You can select all 11 + 1 (fixed) but after restart of PPM only two (only pet-noarch-official and pet-buster-official) will be selected.

It is probably a bug. Anyway I do not understand it.


I have fixed the PPM, see blog post:

http://bkhome.org/news/201908/petget-up ... fixes.html
I downloaded Easy OS 2.0 from Ibiblio today and installed to usb drive using EasyDD. I used the flash drive to boot my desktop PC. I have had the same experience with petget package manager today that blgs experienced. You mentioned a fix for it and I read your blog post. Is there something that I missed?
Very soon easyos 2.1 will be released. The pedget issue and other issues are solved then.

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#1711 Post by TiredPup »

blgs wrote:
Very soon easyos 2.1 will be released. The pedget issue and other issues are solved then.
Thank you.

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#1712 Post by blgs »

TiredPup wrote:blgs wrote:
Very soon easyos 2.1 will be released. The pedget issue and other issues are solved then.
Thank you.
No issue.

The next release has several nice improvement such as operating totally in ram (security improvement).

You can re-install Easy OS 2.0 and use pedget to install applications. But DON'T use the update button that will break petget.

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#1713 Post by lp-dolittle »

@ Barry


just a question. When refind remembers the last boot menu selection, where is this information stored? In the UEFI-firmware?
Might that (theoretically) include a security risk?

kind regards

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edit:

at second thought:
If the information gets stored at boot-up, no security risk might arise. If it is stored during shutdown, the situation might be different.

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#1714 Post by scsijon »

Little problem with playing video's.
I can play pal standard ones without problems, but trying ntsc format ones all fail. This should not happen nowadays on a computer, maybe there is a driver or configuration setting missing. Unlike a tv a computer can play both if set correctly.

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#1715 Post by BarryK »

blgs wrote:
TiredPup wrote:blgs wrote:
Very soon easyos 2.1 will be released. The pedget issue and other issues are solved then.
Thank you.
No issue.

The next release has several nice improvement such as operating totally in ram (security improvement).

You can re-install Easy OS 2.0 and use pedget to install applications. But DON'T use the update button that will break petget.
There was more than that broken. The download URLs were also sometimes wrong.
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Re: boot options

#1716 Post by BarryK »

lp-dolittle wrote:@ Barry


just a question. When refind remembers the last boot menu selection, where is this information stored? In the UEFI-firmware?
Might that (theoretically) include a security risk?

kind regards

lp-dolittle

edit:

at second thought:
If the information gets stored at boot-up, no security risk might arise. If it is stored during shutdown, the situation might be different.
Yes, my understanding is that it is written to the uefi firmware.
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#1717 Post by TiredPup »

Barry K wrote:
blgs wrote:
TiredPup wrote:
blgs wrote:

Quote:
Very soon easyos 2.1 will be released. The pedget issue and other issues are solved then.


Thank you.


No issue.

The next release has several nice improvement such as operating totally in ram (security improvement).

You can re-install Easy OS 2.0 and use pedget to install applications. But DON'T use the update button that will break petget.


There was more than that broken. The download URLs were also sometimes wrong.
Thank you for that post. I am looking forward to testing the next release.

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easyos 2 booting problem

#1718 Post by ejazjv »

hello berryK
i am using your easyos 2 but its problem in booting some time boot correctly but some time stuck on this stage
"making the filesystem usable...."

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#1719 Post by tigs »

BarryK wrote:I have been posting to my blog, many fixes and improvements not reported to this forum.

The latest improvement:

http://bkhome.org/news/201908/easyos-bo ... n-ram.html
Has this already been implemented. In the current releases? Will it be availlable in the Pyro?

This is simillar to the TENS, formerly lightweight portable by the US military.

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Cannot write to optical drive - udev rules

#1720 Post by scsijon »

@BarryK

For your udev problem you might like to revisit LFS at http://linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/de ... links.html. Maybe a refresher of 7.3 and then onto 7.4. Especially the last few sentances of 7.4.2. It took some time to sink in to me what they meant and since that is how we do things (are similar) as I have a system with a similar problem. I wonder if we should be running udevadm or something like it each time we start up (,?or are we already doing that) since we can use our usb sticks on many different devices.

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