Distrowatch_murga snapshot. Last updated: 01 September 2019

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Distrowatch_murga snapshot. Last updated: 01 September 2019

#1 Post by wiak »

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 09#1035709
mfb wrote:* the highest numbers of users on line at any one time has increased by 297 from the previous record of 686 on 31 Dec 2013.
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Who knows (or conjectures) what?
Saw this on above thread. I have no idea or conjecture, but sample page views/day for sample of Project threads follows:

Distrowatch_murga. Last updated: Snapshot of 01 September 2019

A one-off snapshot - just some samples for fun... by wiak (oh no... this will cause somebody to write a thread-viewing bot hahaha)

Of course I can't calculate the views this week alone (or this last month and so on... and I won't be compiling this list again anyway - too much effort).

If your project thread isn't on here, you'll have to work it out yourself, and I don't guarantee the following snapshot calculations... check it yourself

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Distro;                        Thread started; Total_Views    Average_Views/day
                                                              (since thread started)
Bionicpup64 8.0 CE             18Sept2018       222793        640
EasyOS Pyro/Buster             17Mar2017        458455        510
BionicPup32                    27Apr2018        235477        479
Create Debian9 StretchDog      01Aug2017        348665        458
XenialPup64CE7.5Nov2017        29June2016       409717        353
LxPupSc-32bitSlackware         03Dec2015        465642        340
BionicDog 32 and 64            21Apr2018        161595        324
Fatdog64-802                   28Feb2019         59034        319
FirstRib WeeDog                24May2019         31534        315
Dpup Stretch 7.5               18Nov2017        194725        299
FatDog64-800Alpha/Beta         15Nov2018         85650        295
TazPuppyBeta32                 29Apr2018        143969        294
BusterPup8.0CEbeta1            13Jul2019         14030        281
XenialDog 32bit                29Apr2016        337291        276
alternativePuppyBuildSystem    02May2019         33162        271
slacko-700 rc3                 14May2017        208540        248
FatDog64-720/721 Final         20Dec2017        141138        228
DpupBuster-7.9.0.2Feb2019      18Feb2019         44436        228
DpupBuster64CE07_2019          20Jul2019          7256        169
Puppy LICK v1.3.3              31Oct2010        508267        158
corepup                        13Sept2016       157340        145
LxPupSc64                      14Dec2014        193348        112
DevuanDog beowulf              11May2019         12246        108
TazPup64                       23Feb2019         18756         99
Puli 32/64                     21Dec2014        159764         93
Rasvuan Alpha                  06July2019         4656         82
FatDog64-800RC13Feb2019        13Feb2019         15468         77

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#2 Post by mavrothal »

Given that view-count changes as new posts are added to a thread (ie 10 people are looking at a page, a new post is added, they reload the page, 10 more views are added), it's also worth looking at views/post as a possible indicator of how many different persons (IPs) looked at it.
And for those that do this for fame and glory (and want to get really depressed :P ) you can look at the views per post and day...
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#3 Post by wiak »

EDITED to try and make it easier for mavrothal to understand...

I didn't myself include column for total_views/total_posts because that wouldn't be normal on distrowatch type page.

However, a large number of total posts means a more active thread.
I hope you understand that.

So total_views/total_posts should be as small as possible for active thread. i.e. lower result means better for that statistic. Do you understand that now?

I have no idea what views per day and post is supposed to mean or indicate at all, come to that. Good try to confuse us all mavrothal, maybe ;-)

The first table has some meaning though in terms of a statistical indication, but I wouldn't overrate its meaning (no better than Distrowatch itself certainly). mavrothal should just multiply all the columns together and divide by 3.14 squared - I'm not sure why, but neither does he evidently ;-) :-)

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#4 Post by wiak »

Odd, I'd say, that suggestion about depression ('depressed') though. I don't see anyone complaining on Distrowatch proper about number of views ranking data there being depressing for anyone. Is it? I think it is interesting to see how many views/day a project gets though - shows that Dogs, Puppies and others all get a reasonable share of attention (some more posts than others - activity - but my table didn't get into that since I don't think it matters if some threads are just read alot but not have many new postings, but that's just my opinion...).

Anyway, mavrothal, you are clearly worried views/day is a competition. Oh dear. Sorry you take it that way. Just take the logarithm of the results and you should feel better.

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#5 Post by wiak »

Actually, and let's all join mavrothal in depression ;-) cos I really don't believe many actual people really view or use this forum nowadays.

You look at the figure number of active users since yesterday and it is tens of thousands, but no thread suddenly gets read by some new addition of tens of thousands of people (never)! Lucky if it's a couple of hundred (many of them being the bot background noise too probably). So really I think most 'viewers', apart from active posters, are just bots sampling from all the threads (hence even completely inactive threads - with high total_views/total_post counts keep regularly accumulating views over the years).

Sadly there is even less interest in woof-CE, unless you multiply the number of posters there by pi x infinity and call them all 'mavrothal or some remarkably endless wdlkxxxxxx' most of it is just the two or three souls up there pontificating and talking to themselves. Reading the stuff they write in (the equally endless after all these years) 'issues', I can't help wondering if they are simply bots too: that would explain mavrothal's senselessly modified Distrowatch-murga table attempt. Oh well, moving on, more interesting stuff to do than pretend to be serious about some moving averages.

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