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PostPosted: Sun 01 Sep 2019, 19:59    Post subject: Easy Containers GUI improved  

What about covering the condition where someone wants to run a video dvd from a suspect source in a container. So they want video and audio, but don't want internet and want maximum security as they don't know what else may be embeded on the dvd, such as external reporting and ID linking.

Maybe i'm getting paranoid again, but it happened in the past and could easily happen again.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Sep 2019, 03:18    Post subject: Hotspot internet acces  

I'm currently on holiday and would lik to test easyos in an unsecure environment. Staying in a hotel and asked for the wifi code.
Booted up in copy- to- RAM mode.
Entering the wifi code and then nothing. Also applicable in the normal mode.
I discoverd it's a hotspot internet access. Not available in easyos??
Hotspot access with my smartphone is working.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Sep 2019, 03:44    Post subject:  

wdt wrote:
Booted easy2.1 (iso),, in vbox
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# cd /lib
# ls modules
5.2.7 <***!!!!see below>
# modinfo mt7601u
filename: /lib/modules/5.2.7/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/mediatek/mt7601u/mt7601u.ko
license: GPL
firmware: mt7601u.bin
alias: usb:v7392p7710d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in*
<several alias lines removed>
depends: mac80211,cfg80211
intree: Y
name: mt7601u
vermagic: 5.1.15 SMP mod_unload modversions
#
-----------------

*** previous boot # mv modules/5.1.15/ modules/5.2.7
It stuck!!!! This must be the magic of layered filesystems????
I somehow doubt that it modified the iso


Ah, I think that I see what is happening. Where you have the 'easyos-persistent-iso', the files there were created for an earlier version of EasyOS.

If you look there, there is a folder named '.session' and it probably has /lib/modules/5.1.15 -- and, most importantly, a aufs whiteout file named something like '..wh..opaque*' -- can't recall the exact format.

What that whiteout file is doing is blocking the 5.2.7 in the lower easy.sfs layer.

Don't know how that whiteout file could have got there, but I will check the code at bootup.

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Sep 2019, 03:54    Post subject: Re: Hotspot internet acces  

blgs wrote:
I'm currently on holiday and would lik to test easyos in an unsecure environment. Staying in a hotel and asked for the wifi code.
Booted up in copy- to- RAM mode.
Entering the wifi code and then nothing. Also applicable in the normal mode.
I discoverd it's a hotspot internet access. Not available in easyos??
Hotspot access with my smartphone is working.


Try using the network-manager-applet. In the PPM, click the 'pet-buster' radiobutton, then do a search for 'network-manager-applet'

Or, just grab it directly:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64/packages/pet/pet_packages-buster/network-manager-applet-1.8.20-buster64.pet

All dependencies already installed.

You need to restart JWM and it should appear in the tray.

It can also be started in a terminal, I think the executable is 'nm-applet'.

Edit:
I remember once at a library, the library hotspot was on 5MHz and was not recognised by the wifi on my laptop.

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Sep 2019, 10:23    Post subject: Re: Hotspot internet acces  

BarryK wrote:
blgs wrote:
I'm currently on holiday and would lik to test easyos in an unsecure environment. Staying in a hotel and asked for the wifi code.
Booted up in copy- to- RAM mode.
Entering the wifi code and then nothing. Also applicable in the normal mode.
I discoverd it's a hotspot internet access. Not available in easyos??
Hotspot access with my smartphone is working.


Try using the network-manager-applet. In the PPM, click the 'pet-buster' radiobutton, then do a search for 'network-manager-applet'

Or, just grab it directly:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64/packages/pet/pet_packages-buster/network-manager-applet-1.8.20-buster64.pet

All dependencies already installed.

You need to restart JWM and it should appear in the tray.

It can also be started in a terminal, I think the executable is 'nm-applet'.

Edit:
I remember once at a library, the library hotspot was on 5MHz and was not recognised by the wifi on my laptop.


Problem solved.

The additional network-manager was already installed.

A hotspot internet access is open for everyone (no passwrd required and therefore extremely unsecure).
But I filled in my userid as wpa passwrd. That won't work. My mistake.
So, I changed the security setting from wpa to none and internet access was activated.

After asking the reception the activation website to activate my account I've got internet.

One thing disturbs me. In the taskbar it is not visible that internet is activated and in operation.
Only a red cross through the icon meaning no internet but internet is in full operation.
Propose to change it with additional text "hotspot" or "unsecure internet". Although I'm in copy-to-RAM mode.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Sep 2019, 10:43    Post subject:  

>What that whiteout file is doing is blocking the 5.2.7 in the lower easy.sfs layer.
Err.. NO. It is indeed changing the dir name, persistantly,,
persistance is ONLY working in vbox (when on SAME key).
On bare metal, easyos-persistent-iso is not found IF it is on the SAME device,,
fair enough, usually an iso takes up the whole disk, there are NO partitions

This is a boot on bare metal, refind (sdc10), UEFI, only in memory, easyos-persistent-iso NOT FOUND
--------
# ls /lib/modules/
5.1.15
# cd /lib/modules/5.1.15/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/
<<a cd to a random modules directory>>
# ls -l |wc -l
17
<<2 extra, totals & directory, 15 *.ko>>
# grep 5\.2\.7 * |wc -l
grep: sisusbvga: Is a directory
0
# grep 5\.1\.15 * |wc -l
grep: sisusbvga: Is a directory
15
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Sep 2019, 11:21    Post subject:  

wdt wrote:
>What that whiteout file is doing is blocking the 5.2.7 in the lower easy.sfs layer.
Err.. NO. It is indeed changing the dir name, persistantly,,
persistance is ONLY working in vbox (when on SAME key).
On bare metal, easyos-persistent-iso is not found IF it is on the SAME device,,
fair enough, usually an iso takes up the whole disk, there are NO partitions

This is a boot on bare metal, refind (sdc10), UEFI, only in memory, easyos-persistent-iso NOT FOUND
--------
# ls /lib/modules/
5.1.15
# cd /lib/modules/5.1.15/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/
<<a cd to a random modules directory>>
# ls -l |wc -l
17
<<2 extra, totals & directory, 15 *.ko>>
# grep 5\.2\.7 * |wc -l
grep: sisusbvga: Is a directory
0
# grep 5\.1\.15 * |wc -l
grep: sisusbvga: Is a directory
15
----------


This is not making any sense. You are booting the 2.1 iso, yet somehow it is finding and using an older easy.sfs, or so it seems. Is the an older easy.sfs anywhere on the PC?

What should be happening, is the initrd searches for 'easyos-persistent-iso' and if not found then just boots into ram using the 'easy.sfs' that is in the iso -- and that definitely has /lib/modules/5.2.7

If there is an easy.sfs somewhere, rename it and try booting the iso again.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Sep 2019, 20:46    Post subject:  

> and that definitely has /lib/modules/5.2.7
And you are right,, I extracted easy.sfs and unsquashed it,, the vermagic was right
Many hours later (and all of this is my own damn fault!)
I have never seen so much in lost+found, 100's of files
But that was not it, I had used isolabel on the copy of easy2.1 on the UFD, not realizing that was searched for /
So it found easy1.1, that had the "right" label, used it for the rootfs
I nuked that partition, rootfs not to be found until I renamed it (easy2.1) back to EASYOSOPTICAL
But now vbox does not work, no module vboxvideo, well I have cli
Have not tried on bare metal yet, rather tired
Is there a cli equivalent to apt?
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Sep 2019, 21:51    Post subject: xdg-open command  

Came across xdg-open while reading an error 'treck' on github and wondered if it will do for our use.

xdg-open opens a file or URL in the user's preferred application as well as formatting. If a URL is provided the URL will be opened in the user's preferred web browser. If a file is provided the file will be opened in the preferred application for files of that type. xdg-open supports file, ftp, http and https URLs.

Quote:
# xdg-open --help
Usage: ROX-Filer/AppRun [OPTION]... [FILE]...
Open each directory or file listed, or the current working
directory if no arguments are given.

-b, --border=PANEL open PANEL as a border panel
-B, --bottom=PANEL open PAN as a bottom-edge panel
-c, --client-id=ID used for session management
-d, --dir=DIR open DIR as directory (not application)
-D, --close=DIR close DIR and its subdirectories
-h, --help display this help and exit
-l, --left=PANEL open PAN as a left-edge panel
-m, --mime-type=FILE print MIME type of FILE and exit
-n, --new start new copy; for debugging the filer
-p, --pinboard=PIN use pinboard PIN as the pinboard
-r, --right=PANEL open PAN as a right-edge panel
-R, --RPC invoke method call read from stdin
-s, --show=FILE open a directory showing FILE
-S, --rox-session use default panel and pinboard options, and -n
-t, --top=PANEL open PANEL as a top-edge panel
-u, --user show user name in each window
-U, --url=URL open file or directory in URI form
-v, --version display the version information and exit
-x, --examine=FILE FILE has changed - re-examine it

Report bugs to <rox-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>.
Home page (including updated versions): http://rox.sourceforge.net/
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Sep 2019, 07:07    Post subject: Re: xdg-open command  

scsijon wrote:
Came across xdg-open while reading an error 'treck' on github and wondered if it will do for our use.

xdg-open opens a file or URL in the user's preferred application as well as formatting. If a URL is provided the URL will be opened in the user's preferred web browser. If a file is provided the file will be opened in the preferred application for files of that type. xdg-open supports file, ftp, http and https URLs.

Quote:
# xdg-open --help
Usage: ROX-Filer/AppRun [OPTION]... [FILE]...
Open each directory or file listed, or the current working
directory if no arguments are given.

-b, --border=PANEL open PANEL as a border panel
-B, --bottom=PANEL open PAN as a bottom-edge panel
-c, --client-id=ID used for session management
-d, --dir=DIR open DIR as directory (not application)
-D, --close=DIR close DIR and its subdirectories
-h, --help display this help and exit
-l, --left=PANEL open PAN as a left-edge panel
-m, --mime-type=FILE print MIME type of FILE and exit
-n, --new start new copy; for debugging the filer
-p, --pinboard=PIN use pinboard PIN as the pinboard
-r, --right=PANEL open PAN as a right-edge panel
-R, --RPC invoke method call read from stdin
-s, --show=FILE open a directory showing FILE
-S, --rox-session use default panel and pinboard options, and -n
-t, --top=PANEL open PANEL as a top-edge panel
-u, --user show user name in each window
-U, --url=URL open file or directory in URI form
-v, --version display the version information and exit
-x, --examine=FILE FILE has changed - re-examine it

Report bugs to <rox-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>.
Home page (including updated versions): http://rox.sourceforge.net/
[/code]
[/quote]

EasyOS does have /usr/local/bin/xdg-open, this is from the Puppy days, it is a script, last edited in 2011. It is very simple, doesn't support any of those options.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Sep 2019, 07:10    Post subject:  

wdt wrote:
> and that definitely has /lib/modules/5.2.7
And you are right,, I extracted easy.sfs and unsquashed it,, the vermagic was right
Many hours later (and all of this is my own damn fault!)
I have never seen so much in lost+found, 100's of files
But that was not it, I had used isolabel on the copy of easy2.1 on the UFD, not realizing that was searched for /
So it found easy1.1, that had the "right" label, used it for the rootfs
I nuked that partition, rootfs not to be found until I renamed it (easy2.1) back to EASYOSOPTICAL
But now vbox does not work, no module vboxvideo, well I have cli
Have not tried on bare metal yet, rather tired
Is there a cli equivalent to apt?


Can't you get the *.img file to bootup in vbox? Uncompress it first, it is 1.2GB.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Sep 2019, 09:44    Post subject:  

At first, on bare metal, dropped me to initrd cli. Because of other drives the UFD is sdd
ls /dev/sdd* shows only up to sdd8 (in the initrd?), so sdd10 & sdd15 will not be seen
A bit of work with gdisk (t on expert menu) and boots OK, with persistance
On the desktop shows sdd16, opens OK, that was why I didn't realize this was the problem
Modules load OK, wifi works, with right data entered didn't even have to "activate", just connected

While it would be a little more work, could the isolabel be specific to the release?
I mean,, instead of EASYOSOPTICAL,, something like EASY21OPTICAL or EASY11OPTICAL or EASY1092OPTICAL?
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Sep 2019, 18:36    Post subject: Re: xdg-open command  

BarryK wrote:
scsijon wrote:
Came across xdg-open while reading an error 'treck' on github and wondered if it will do for our use.

xdg-open opens a file or URL in the user's preferred application as well as formatting. If a URL is provided the URL will be opened in the user's preferred web browser. If a file is provided the file will be opened in the preferred application for files of that type. xdg-open supports file, ftp, http and https URLs.

Quote:
# xdg-open --help
Usage: ROX-Filer/AppRun [OPTION]... [FILE]...
Open each directory or file listed, or the current working
directory if no arguments are given.

-b, --border=PANEL open PANEL as a border panel
-B, --bottom=PANEL open PAN as a bottom-edge panel
-c, --client-id=ID used for session management
-d, --dir=DIR open DIR as directory (not application)
-D, --close=DIR close DIR and its subdirectories
-h, --help display this help and exit
-l, --left=PANEL open PAN as a left-edge panel
-m, --mime-type=FILE print MIME type of FILE and exit
-n, --new start new copy; for debugging the filer
-p, --pinboard=PIN use pinboard PIN as the pinboard
-r, --right=PANEL open PAN as a right-edge panel
-R, --RPC invoke method call read from stdin
-s, --show=FILE open a directory showing FILE
-S, --rox-session use default panel and pinboard options, and -n
-t, --top=PANEL open PANEL as a top-edge panel
-u, --user show user name in each window
-U, --url=URL open file or directory in URI form
-v, --version display the version information and exit
-x, --examine=FILE FILE has changed - re-examine it

Report bugs to <rox-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>.
Home page (including updated versions): http://rox.sourceforge.net/
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EasyOS does have /usr/local/bin/xdg-open, this is from the Puppy days, it is a script, last edited in 2011. It is very simple, doesn't support any of those options.


Ok, I shall track the full package down, it seems worth having, Ubuntu and Arch seem to use it extensively and redhat seems to have had it for a long time. I'll move it to it's own topic when found.
EDIT: It's part of xdg-utils on freedesk and open on github with a currently maintained version. OK, i'll take it to it's own package thread incase anyone is interested.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Sep 2019, 23:36    Post subject:  

some bugs,, this must be my mb, surely others would have said.
Nothing I can do will poweroff or reboot, 3 gui ways, nothing happens,,, reboot in term,freeze,,,CAbksp, nothing,,,reisub,nothing
So I sync, up arrow (4x), hard power off
Now that I think some more, why did I forget CAdelete; haven't tried yet
x11vnc does not seem to pass shift thru, only caps lock gives caps, hard to send <,> or| or: without shift
I have not figured out ssh, if I do, what is password?
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Sep 2019, 07:35    Post subject:  

A quick visit to the forum, have heaps of other stuff to do.

Easy Buster 2.1.1 is out:

http://bkhome.org/news/201909/easy-buster-211-released.html

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