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[s243a]

[s243a]

On my next remaster, I'll be adding the following line:

[s243a]

Here's a remaster of the last release:
tiny_puduan_ascii-PreA11.2-Remaster_1-s243a.iso (272M)
**Minimal testing was done.

This includes the above noted fixes. In addition to what is included in the official release it has the following packages:

[s243a]

Here's a new release:

tiny_puduan_ascii-PreAlpha11.3.iso (210M)
**Testing mostly consists of installing firefox-ESR (and some other aps), using a save folder on a USB.

The issues in my previous post, still need to be addressed as well as a minor issue related to the boot process (see post).

Edit 1 I forgot to include an update to "pkg" which fixed an issue with installing dependendencies due to a missing "/" in the /tmp folder. I will be fixed going forward.

Edit 2 I also forgot to include my fixes for /etc/profile that fix the perl issues in urxvt

[s243a]

New release to fix issues noted in previous post:

tiny_puduan_ascii-PreAlpha11.4.iso (210M)
Testing:
1. Install firefox (dependencies are being instlled but need to make sure that nothign is re-installed.
2. Checked /tmp/xerrs.log (no obvious errors)
3. Also installed other packages that I'll include in a remaster.

**Testing done with a save folder on a USB drive. No other pmedia modes were tested.

***Note, that I also added the less package because in a previous version I got an error in /tmp/xerrs.log due to the busybox version of less not supporting the -R option...I think.

[s243a]

[s243a]

Here's a new version.
tiny_puduan_ascii-PreAlpha11.5.iso

The only testing that I did was installing firefox-esr

[s243a]

[darry19662018]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nhbh2rsiladj2ww/tiny_puduan_ascii-PreAlpha11.2.iso?dl=0

Well finally got this working on the HP Pavillion dv6000.

When it booted from a frugal install (the Puppy universal installer works).
The desktop booted up but looked like it was working on a vesa resolution and then it went blank - rebooted and when it tried to repeat this behaviour I hit ctrl-LT-Backspace and got the xorg-wizard and chose nv driver and then typed xwin and she booted to a desktop. I am typing from it now.

Results:

Video and sound working with html5 and internet connected first time with frisbee. Scottman's gpkgdialog installed Puppy Firewall fine.

To get psync working installed from ppm (which by the way works if you choose automatic option instead of classic step by step method, which doesn't). Psync required gtkdialog 3 to be installed.

[darry19662018]

I had to in /usr/sbin delete petget and add symlink from /usr/local/petget to get .pet installing working.

So nothing major in this Pup it is working with a static mplayer of Fred's I use to play mp4's. Keep up the good work s243a.

[darry19662018]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kdfx12p0x1h1fm6/tiny_puduan_ascii-PreAlpha11.5.iso?dl=0

This Latest iso from S243a has the desktop mount icon working properly now so you can see the contents of a flash drive by clicking desktop icon,

Can set time correctly using date and time menu from settings from wbar.

Also petget is also working correctly.

Nice work S243a:)

[s243a]

I've been asked how this project is going so here are some updates.

1. Since about June I've had less time to work on this but as can be scene by the releases I've been slowly making progress.
2. There about five areas of priority that I see:
2-a, Improve the the package management system,
2-b, Improve the remaster system
2-c, Improve the build system
2-d, Improve the xwin script.
2-e, possible issues with exiting Xorg to the terminal

I've been focusing mostly on 2-a lately. My focus here is on both dependency resolution and concurancy. See Posts:
(2-a-I) about pkg installing the wrong version of about libstd++
(2-a-II) about using awk to filter the repo db based on version number.

I'm having a bit of trouble getting the awk version to work of my script which filters the repo db based on version information. This is apparently due to memory allocation issues, according to error messages. So in the short term I might do the version comparison with vercmp as scotmann suggests. The code that does the actual repo db filtering will be segregated (and likely programatically generated), in a way that I can easily switch between bash, awk, python and perl approaches to test the speed difference.

Regard remastering (2-b), I have been working on some stuff to improve the remaster script (see post) both to give greater flexibility (e.g. perhaps you don't need the original iso) and to include more settings from the root and etc folder into the remastered ISO. I've put this on the back burner because I believe the improvements to pkg management system are more important but in my opinion a good set of remastering tools is very important for community development and the over-focus on build-system type approaches means that their will be far fewer people that will be able to contribute to development.

Regard improving the build system (2_c), the biggest thing that I need to add is the inclusion of release specific customizations (e.g. /etc/DISTRO_SPECS). This is actually a pretty easy change and quite important if anyone else is going to use the build system from scratch but I've been focusing more on release specific features like package management systems and remastering because I need to demonstrate a solid working system to show the merits of the build system.

Regarding the xwin script 2-d, in some systems the window manager doesn't properly boot into the desktop/window-manager due to issues related to the Xorg driver. A while back I made some changes to the xwin script to help it find the Xorg drivers and to select the Xorg vesa driver as the default. However, my understanding here about vesa being the default driver might not be correct in the way that recent puppies work.

The work around for this issue with tiny_puduan is to boot puppy without Xorg and then configure using the cli based xorgwizard. Recently, wdlkmpx has made some changes to the xwin script that might help to clarify any misunderstandings that I have about the Xorg setup. The related discussion can be found at:

https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/issues/897

I should look for the latest puppy code for the xwin script and use that as the starting point and apply any fixes that I might of had (e.g. finding the drivers) to the latest puppy xwin script.

Regarding exiting Xorg 2-e, I'm in some cases having issues with exiting Xorg to the terminal. In a virtual machine I might not even see the terminal if I press cntrl-alt-backspace, and in some cases the keyboard might not work correctly if one exists Xorg. This is a big enough issue that it probably needs to be solved before I can ever even call this an alpha release.

[darry19662018]

Regarding 2D. I believe that having a pup start without going automatically to desktop is my preferred option - as I find with this pup first time around I get a black screen when it attempts to boot to desktop first time I quickly press ctrl-alt-backspace to get to commandline to go into xorgwizard and set the driver and no more problems. Thats how old pups like 4.31 worked.

I for prefer that behaviour.

Many thanks for the update. Posting from this pup in Icecat now.

[darry19662018]

[darry19662018]

Made an iso that includes GNUIcecat and GNUIceweasel-uxp, Deadbeef 1.80, static mplayer, mtpaint, flcalc and xarchiver from tinycore, parchive, pupcontrolpanel, pfind, peasypdf, mupdf, epdfview (older version less deps), firewall.ng, ......

https://archive.org/download/tiny_puduanasciiprealpha11.5darry1966iceweasel/tiny_puduanasciiPreAlpha11.5%28darry1966%29%28iceweasel%29.iso

Did this to test remasterpup2 which worked.