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#1001 Post by Revolverve »

Mike Walsh wrote: I guess it all boils down to how paranuts you are about security, in the long run.....
(*shrug*)
Mike. :wink:
Yep..Add that note after reading a forum topic about virtual keyboard security
and -secure or not, evtest report everything...
mikeslr or a script ...
#!/bin/sh
xvkbd -secure
#..... but are scripts secure ? !?!x#anyhow?
I'm using it for years now in my jwm-tray;
<JWM><Tray autohide="top" halign="center" valign="top"><Swallow name="xvkbd">xvkbd -secure -geometry 1480x480+595+650 </Swallow></Tray>
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Radky's FbBox-5.0 on Bionicpup64

#1002 Post by mikeslr »

Hi all,

Edit: Read the post-script first. The utility of FbBox, however, remains valid.

666philb's Bionicpup64 8.0 is a rather nice Puppy. It seems to be able to accomplish whatever task I might want to undertake. My only problem with it was I hated the structure of its menu. It didn't follow JWM's categories and to start many important/frequently used applications required wading thru a maze. Maybe it was an Openbox structured menu. BionicPup64 seems to have both JWM and Openbox builtin; but I couldn't figure out how to switch between them.

At any rate, I decided to see if Radky's FbBox-5.0, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 018#769018 would provide a menu structure I'm familiar with without breaking anything. It seems to have met both conditions. And the Menu FbBox generates has a "Favorites" category into which you can assign your most commonly used applications. It also has a removable Task-bar Favorites launcher.

A tip if you install FbBox 5.0. By default new windows will open just above your mouse-cursor, which translates to --when opening an application from the Menu-- in the lower left corner of your screen. It took me a while to figure out how to change that. Open FbBox Control Center. Then select Openbox Configuration. Select the Windows Panel and UNCHECK the box labled "place new window under the mouse pointer".
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Post Script: Just examined what had been previously installed. Somehow Openbox_Plus_64 had been. It was published for use under dpup-buster64. Don't know how it got into Bionicpup64. :shock: Maybe it caused the Menu annoyance and other problems. It's late. But tomorrow I'll uninstall both it and FbBox and see.

Post Post Script: Well, I couldn't wait. Remove of both Openbox Plus and FbBox resulted in a perfectly normal JWM Menu.

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#1003 Post by zigbert »

Something weird with the 'kill' command in bionic64.

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kill -19 12345
Works as expected (pauses the prosess), while the command to continue fails. Tried all documented variations

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kill -18 12345
kill -n 18 12345
kill -s CONT 12345
kill -s SIGCONT 12345
Works in every other Puppy I've tried - Bionic32, ScPup, Slacko, RasPup

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#1004 Post by 666philb »

zigbert wrote:Something weird with the 'kill' command in bionic64.

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kill -19 12345
Works as expected (pauses the prosess), while the command to continue fails. Tried all documented variations

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kill -18 12345
kill -n 18 12345
kill -s CONT 12345
kill -s SIGCONT 12345
Works in every other Puppy I've tried - Bionic32, ScPup, Slacko, RasPup
hi zigbert,

just tried this on htop and it paused and restarted.
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

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#1005 Post by Revolverve »

edit; open an issue on github...if you like to read about the airy fairy me in the devs world of understanding :)
Anyone could help with latest freecad appimage??
Its not a puppy problem,well ,it could in some sort,
before i open an issue with fc appimage devs so we could potentially lead them to the error.
0.19 wont run anymore,older 0.19 version does and newest 0.18.3 do too
______
/initrd/mnt/tmpfs/tmp/.mount_FreeCAzUlbKq
FreeCAD 0.19, Libs: 0.19R18614 (Git)
© Juergen Riegel, Werner Mayer, Yorik van Havre 2001-2019
[10302:10302:1028/204118.237325:ERROR:zygote_host_impl_linux.cc(89)] Running as root without --no-sandbox is not supported. See https://crbug.com/638180.
______

Any idea?
Thanks

or please post hints here-freecad app.image forum topic
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#1006 Post by zigbert »

666philb wrote:
zigbert wrote:Something weird with the 'kill' command in bionic64.

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kill -19 12345
Works as expected (pauses the prosess), while the command to continue fails. Tried all documented variations

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kill -18 12345
kill -n 18 12345
kill -s CONT 12345
kill -s SIGCONT 12345
Works in every other Puppy I've tried - Bionic32, ScPup, Slacko, RasPup
hi zigbert,

just tried this on htop and it paused and restarted.
Maybe htop has an alternative kill... No...
I tested htop too (with the same test as before), and it failed.
playing an audio file:

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ffmpeg -i "/path/file.mp3" -f s16le -acodec pcm_s16le -ar 44100 -ac 2 - | aplay -f S16_LE -c2 -r44100
Now, trying to pause and continue in htop kills the process. This is unique behavior for Bionic64... Hmmm, this is strange

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#1007 Post by linuxcbon »

Bionicpup64 8.0 CE
when I use quickpet, in "useful" section, I cannot download "devx" or "kernel src" SFSs. I tried different URLs from the list, but none works.
550 Failed to change directory.
No such directory 'pub/gnu+linux/puppylinux/puppy-bionic/bionicpup64/'.

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#1008 Post by linuxcbon »

Bionicpup64 8.0 CE
when running steam for 1st time, it shows an error :
# steam
Repairing installation, linking /root/.steam/steam to /root/.local/share/Steam
File "/usr/bin/steamdeps", line 367

^
SyntaxError: EOF while scanning triple-quoted string literal
Running Steam on puppy 8 64-bit
STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(0)
/root/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri3.so.0: undefined symbol: xcb_send_request_with_fds
/root/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh: line 444: no match: ssfn*
solution :
LIBGL_DRI3_DISABLE=1 steam
see https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam- ... ssues/4816
They closed the issue, but it doesnt seem to be fixed.

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#1009 Post by linuxcbon »

Bionicpup64 8.0 CE
installed conky from quickpet, useful tab. Many configurations of conkyswitcher are buggy. For example conky_grey :

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root# conkyswitcher 
/usr/sbin/set_bg: line 8: pcmanfm: command not found
conky: Syntax error (/root/.conky/conky_grey/conkyrc:2: unexpected symbol near '#') while reading config file. 
conky: Assuming it's in old syntax and attempting conversion.
conky: Invalid value 'undecorate' for setting 'own_window_hints'. Valid values are: 'undecorated', 'below', 'above', 'sticky', 'skip_taskbar', 'skip_pager'.
conky: desktop window (4c8) is root window
conky: window type - override
(...)
conky: can't load Xft font 'Ubuntu:size=7,weight:bold'

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#1010 Post by bigpup »

linuxcbon wrote:Bionicpup64 8.0 CE
when I use quickpet, in "useful" section, I cannot download "devx" or "kernel src" SFSs. I tried different URLs from the list, but none works.
550 Failed to change directory.
No such directory 'pub/gnu+linux/puppylinux/puppy-bionic/bionicpup64/'.
Do Quickpet ->Info ->Bionicpup updates
Reboot so the updates get saved.
Try getting the devx or kernel src again.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#1011 Post by linuxcbon »

bigpup wrote:Do Quickpet ->Info ->Bionicpup updates
Reboot so the updates get saved.
Try getting the devx or kernel src again.
My pup is always updated. 8)
Did you try it at least ? I cannot count on you, so I tested again :

For devx :
It worked for this servers :
distro.ibiblio.org
ftp.cc.uoc.gr (very slow)
ftp.nluug.nl
mirror.internode.on.net

It failed with this servers :
ftp.vcu.edu
1st mirror.aarnet.edu.au
2nd mirror.aarnet.edu.au (timed out)

Note : mirror.aarnet.edu.au is duplicated in the list, why ?

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#1012 Post by linuxcbon »

Bionicpup64 8.0 CE
Feature request : can you add python3 by default please ?
It is needed by some games in Steam, like "path of exile". 8)

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env: can't execute 'python3': No such file or directory
I found it at /usr/bin/python3

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root# /usr/bin/python3
bash: /usr/bin/python3: No such file or directory
Bug : The symlink is broken. /usr/bin/python3.6 doesn't exist.

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#1013 Post by bigpup »

For devx :
It worked for this servers :
distro.ibiblio.org
ftp.cc.uoc.gr (very slow)
ftp.nluug.nl
mirror.internode.on.net

It failed with this servers :
ftp.vcu.edu
1st mirror.aarnet.edu.au
2nd mirror.aarnet.edu.au (timed out)
Puppy Linux has no control over these repositories.
If they are down, up, or working.

Usually, if they have problems. It is because, the people that own the repository, are working on it.

That is why, several of them are listed, to choose from.

ibiblio.org is usually working, most of the time.
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#1014 Post by linuxcbon »

bigpup wrote:Puppy Linux cannot control these repositories.
If they are down, up, or working.

Usually, if they have problems. It is because, the people that own the repository, are working on it.

That is why, several of them are listed, to choose from.

ibiblio.org is usually working, most of the time.
I know but I had to report it anyway, so it's a known problem now.

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#1015 Post by Revolverve »

Anybody know who create the google-chrome run-as-spot script ?

edit;bump...never mind

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#1016 Post by belham2 »

(posted something similar to this in a recent "Hardware" thread about bluetooth)
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/posting.ph ... &p=1041279

Any Xenial/Bionic pup user ever get a USB Bluetooth Dongle (based on the all-pervasive Broadcom crappy ships) to work in Xenial and/or Bionic? Just for something simple like a recent Mpow bluetooth headset (not even trying bluetooth speakers, phones, or even sending files via bluetooth).

If you did get bluetooth to work, can you be specific about how you did it Neither Mistfire's excellent p3bluetooth app nor Rsrcn51's excellent app work when it seems to be an issue with these seemingly amazon-supplied everywhere Broadcom dongles.

Thanks for any feedback/tips/etc.



P.S. Both Broadcom and Intel chip-based bluetooth dongles work in all DebianDog and variations thereof. Debian overall takes care of the libraries and firmware. But across Pupland and variations thereof, Broadcom USB Bluetooth dongles---in my experience and testing---just work like crap, if they work at all.

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#1017 Post by linuxcbon »

Bionicpup64 8.0 CE

I am testing games in Steam, so can you please add "xdg-utils" package (to get xdg-icon-resource, xdg-user-dir etc).
Can you also make "nvdia" driver default, instead of "nouveau" driver ? Reason ? "nouveau" is extremly slow for games, unfortunately. :(
PS : for testing, I just installed nvidia 440.31, it works OK except that I had to set up the keyboard language to french again.

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#1018 Post by bigpup »

Nouveau is used by default, because it will work with any Nvidia graphics hardware.
It is a generic Linux Nvidia driver.
It does supply basic operations, but not as good as Nvidia's specific driver packages.

Specific Nvidia hardware, will need a specific Nvidia driver, if you want to use Nvidia supplied driver software.
Yes, their driver packages do support multiple devices.
However, they add support and delete support each time they make a new driver package.
Also, an older Nvidia driver package, is not going to support Nvidia hardware, developed after the driver was released.

The program:
Quickpet->Drivers->
Has Nvidia driver packages for download and install.
They support a lot of the Nvidia hardware, but not every possible one.
Some very old Nvidia hardware, is only supported by much older Nvidia drivers.

Here is information on compiling your own Nvidia driver packages.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=110611
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#1019 Post by Revolverve »

There are no bionicpup64 problem here,answers to these questions may just help the confused user in sandboxing understanding i am...
Using google-chrome latest run as spot ,which i does not seems to give me trouble,i have those questions that may seems obvious(wishful thinking here...) to some:
- Does it use sandboxing automatically?
I guess so,searching bionicpup64 script for the --no-sandbox argument ,find nothing in scripts and i read a lot out there that the're no such things anymore of chrome/chromium without it!!!
I do see all of jamesbond sandbox scripts build-in/included ,if ever they are here for that purpose or use in the system at all for the browser ..

Trying to explain confusion is not the easy one!!!!
If you think you can hit the switch so that it light up here ...
Oh and while on the subjet;
666philb
I still use google-chrome update_utility..
This must be the ¨magic¨ that keep the google-chrome run as spot script in opt,is that it?
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#1020 Post by linuxcbon »

bigpup wrote:Nouveau is used by default, because it will work with any Nvidia graphics hardware.
It is a generic Linux Nvidia driver.
It does supply basic operations, but not as good as Nvidia's specific driver packages.

Specific Nvidia hardware, will need a specific Nvidia driver, if you want to use Nvidia supplied driver software.
Yes, their driver packages do support multiple devices.
However, they add support and delete support each time they make a new driver package.
Also, an older Nvidia driver package, is not going to support Nvidia hardware, developed after the driver was released.

The program:
Quickpet->Drivers->
Has Nvidia driver packages for download and install.
They support a lot of the Nvidia hardware, but not every possible one.
Some very old Nvidia hardware, is only supported by much older Nvidia drivers.

Here is information on compiling your own Nvidia driver packages.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=110611
You really think I dont know this ? What do you think ? And I wrote I installed the latest nvdia drivers, cant you read ? :roll:
I asked to have "nvidia" instead of "nouveau" driver to have better video performances. If it doesnt work with some old hardware (which is rare nowadays), it's easy to use "nouveau" instead. For me it's the best solution.

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