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Problem booting Puppy in a Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 rev 1.3
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trister
Joined: 01 Mar 2015 Posts: 137 |
Hello, I am using StretchDog with whisker menu made with fred181's script. I'm having a bit of trouble with an i5 PC (lshw result here : https://pastebin.com/UkQ1zLMX ) . It has 2 graphics cards: 1 internal (intel -don't know anything else) and one external Radeon HD6420. I have made many attempts with StretchDog even with latest kernel but the only way I can manage to boot it is with nomodeset kernel parameter. When I boot both cards seems as UNCLAIMED. I have tried these but doesn't seem to work : fglrx_debs_amd64_UB_14.01 firmware-amd-graphics_20161130-5_all.deb firmware-amd-misc-graphics_2019 firmware-linux firmware-misc-amd-graphics2016 intel-microcode_3.20190618.1~deb9u1_amd64 libgl1-mesa-dri-glx_13.0.6-1+b2_amd64 libglu1-mesa_9.0.0-2.1_amd64- mesa-utils_8.3.0-3_amd64.deb xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu_1.2.0-1+b1_amd64.deb xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.99.917+git20161206-1_amd64.deb xserver-xorg-video-radeon-ATI_7.8.0-1+b1_amd64.deb I have noticed this: -When I disable the internal GPU (intel) stretchdog (porteus) stucks when trying to load kernel. -If I remove the external GPU Nothing changes -still internal is unclaimed and must boot using nomodeset. -I had the same problem with some other puppy linux I have tried (it doen't seem to be just StretchDog related). -When running with nomodeset I can use it without any other problem for hours (actually the graphics card is needed for me for some flash based mmo games in the browser that doesn't work with nomodeset) Any other ideas? Thanks Last edited by trister on Sat 09 Nov 2019, 05:53; edited 1 time in total |
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trister
Joined: 01 Mar 2015 Posts: 137 |
I've given up trying the external gpu.I now try the integrated gpu. My motherboard is a gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 rev 1.3 with i5-3550 with latest UEFI firmware. This is is supposed to have the intel HD 2500 graphics card (ivy bridge). I ve tried many things. My latest idea is maybe to install older intel graphics drivers arroundr 2013-2014. any idea how to do that with apt ? |
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rcrsn51
 Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 13129 Location: Stratford, Ontario |
New hardware needs new kernels. StretchDog has the old k4.9.0. |
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bigpup
 Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 13981 Location: S.C. USA |
Try using Bionicpup64 8.0 It has a much newer Linux kernel and much newer Intel graphics driver. Computers with Intel CPU integrated graphics and separate graphics cards could be setup to use graphics hardware in several different ways. Example: Laptops usually use the CPU integrated graphics for normal stuff and then will switch over to using the other graphics hardware for heavy stuff. This is automatic. Puppy Linux does not have the needed software or kernel setup to make this auto switching work. Puppy Linux only has ability to use one or the other. Usually for laptops Puppy only uses the CPU integrated graphics. Most Laptops do not give options for which one to use. Go into the computers UEFI bios setup and see if it has a setting to pick which graphics hardware to use. Maybe disable CPU integrated graphics. (maybe called onboard VGA graphics) If yes. Disable the onboard graphics. Select to use the Radeon hardware. The Radeon driver in Bionicpup64 8.0 should run it OK. That bios setup may help you with StretchDog. But I do not know if it has a builtin Radeon driver. _________________ The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem. When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected 
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trister
Joined: 01 Mar 2015 Posts: 137 |
Just a note: I installed yesterday windows 10 and they worked ok. They saw the integrated Intel HD (and win10 just name it "Integrated Intel HD graphics card -no model ,no anything...)
I haven't tried this. Motherboard is kind of old 2013-14 year so I din't thought that any newer kernel will make a difference. I'll check it when I get back home. ...
My problem is that when I disable the integrated intel the radeon HD 6450 works but system stucks while booting (at the part where it searches the *.sgn files). If I reenable the internal intel gpu it works ok. Note : all things are done with the radeon connected to the monitor (so radeon works). So far I think that my main problem is that a) Can't start OS with the internal GPU disabled\ b) Linux starts only with nomodeset parameter (with both GPUs enabled) so I can't actually load radeon drivers in this mode. I guess my only hope is to find how to see the integrated intel GPU (its an ivy - intel HD2500 from what I learn). If bionicpou64 fails then I'm out of ideas. |
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rcrsn51
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 13129 Location: Stratford, Ontario |
Your Radeon card needs firmware in StretchDog, otherwise it will fall back to useless VESA mode. But it should be enough to install firmware-amd-graphics. I wonder if you have broken things by installing too many packages. |
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trister
Joined: 01 Mar 2015 Posts: 137 |
Tried bionicpup64 and did not boot -not even with nomodeset . grub/lickmenu entry: title bionicpup64 Puppy Testing (RAM) \n Originalversion find --set-root --ignore-floppies /bionicpup64/initrd.gz kernel /bionicpup64/vmlinuz psubdir=/bionicpup64 pmedia=atahd pfix=ram nomodeset initrd /bionicpup64/initrd.gz
Tried it with clean installation(s) but nothing changes. Have tried StretchDog, JessoeDog , WheezyDog32 , XenialDog64, XenialDog-openbox_jwm-2016-05-21-firmware-all , The problem is the integrated GPU. I can't disable it and can only boot using nomodeset. I have removed the external radeon and try to focus on the intel HD 2500 integrated. Is anyone using Integrated Intel 2000,2500 or 3000? Windows 10 use the card fine with no problems. My stretch dog system works very good but only with the generic vesa drivers. Thank you all for your suggestions 
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fredx181
 Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 4481 Location: holland |
Have you tried booting with "live-boot" (instead of porteus-boot) ? (or for Xenial "casper boot") Fred _________________ Dog Linux website Tinylinux blog by wiak |
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zagreb999
Joined: 11 Apr 2014 Posts: 573 Location: Yugoslavija |
all of these iso's work perfectly for me please, tray to install with unetbootin on usb formated fat32 with gparted put usb in laptop and switch on laptop it must work! |
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bigpup
Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 13981 Location: S.C. USA |
For the Radeon graphics I can see a need to maybe use nomodeset. Try this: use these modeset entries instead of nomodeset. For Radeon
For Intel
That 0 is the number 0. What exactly happens if you use these command options? _________________ The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem. When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer) |
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trister
Joined: 01 Mar 2015 Posts: 137 |
At this point I have removed radeon and trying first to check if I can fix the internal intel HD 2500 problem (since it seems that when I disabled it from UEFI/BIOS it causes other issues). Since I don't have any issue in windows 10 I guess it is linux driver/firmware related.
Thanks fred. Tried that. Also din't work. @zagreb999 I have many frugal puppies (most of them clean - no additions from me to my hard disk). None of them works without nomodeset or vesa drivers (eg fluppy boots ok without nomodeset but uses generic drivers. You have a gigabyte motherboard like mine with an i5 intel? If so can you check please what VGA drivers you load. @bigpup I have tried these parameters (and some more) but didn't work. Thanks again for your suggestions
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trister
Joined: 01 Mar 2015 Posts: 137 |
I have setup windows xp 32bit and it detects the Integrated Intel HD graphics card. So at this point I'm back at my old idea : install older gigabyte/intel graphics drivers arround 2013-2014.any idea how to do that with apt ? |
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