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quenyan

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 03:32    Post subject:  CUPS corrupted? (dead end)  

Im using Bionic pup 8 64bit
what I tried, running localhost:631 on firefox, palemoon, and chrome.
all showing the same result.
printer ip1980, turned on, plugged in.

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update:
I found the cause of the error, it seems that the deb files i got from this website https://seegatesite.com/installing-driver-canon-pixma-ip1900-series-on-linux-ubuntu-work/ causes the error, so that i have to re-install puppy linux to get rid of the error, as I searched for the solution I stumbled upon some posts related to ip1900 printer driver in puppy forums, but alas, all the source/project is either expired or shutdown way back to year 2009.
I already spent a lot of time in linux, all I learned is that linux OS is never completed, so I am planning to get back to windows.

couple days ago, i went complain the canon company about the unavailable 64bit ip1900 driver, that time the 32bit still available, today, they shut down all the linux driver, it can't be found in the website anymore.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 04:47    Post subject:  

If you are trying to setup a printer.
How to Install Your Printer/Scanner in Puppy
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59015
Read carefully and follow all steps.

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quenyan

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 05:01    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
If you are trying to setup a printer.
How to Install Your Printer/Scanner in Puppy
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59015
Read carefully and follow all steps.

yes I follow the instruction and stuck at number 1 (installing printer)
when I choose add printer it doesnt provide me with anything but a continue button, clicking it doesnt get anywhere.
local printer:
discovered network printers:
other network printers:
[continue]

it seems like a fail script to me, something is broken.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 05:14    Post subject:  

What is the specific make and model of the printer?
How is it connecting to the computer?

May need to install a driver package for the specific make and model printer.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 05:48    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
What is the specific make and model of the printer?
How is it connecting to the computer?

May need to install a driver package for the specific make and model printer.

even without connecting to a printer, the dialog shouldnt be like that as i remembered.

I didnt have any problem with setting up CUPS printer before in another OS.
In Elive OS, no problem (except the live version needs to be root)
In Linux Mint, no problem
In Lubuntu, no problem

same printer, same way of installing
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 06:00    Post subject:  

as for the driver, the canon ip1900 driver is special, why? because it is not in CUPS database and as for the 64bit driver is only available in Ubuntu forum, someone made the package and libs specially for this kind of printer.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 18:35    Post subject:  

Puppy Linux does not come with every possible piece of hardware drivers already in Puppy Linux.
It has general generic drivers for most hardware.
Network hardware is well supported, so you can get connected to the internet and get whatever software is still needed.

So, it is probably missing the needed driver to run the printer.
So I will ask again.
Is canon ip1900 the printer you are trying to use?
How is it connecting to the computer?

Do not compare Puppy Linux to the way some other version of Linux works.
Puppy Linux works differently in several ways.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 18:47    Post subject:  

A very good search engine for searching in the forum.
http://puppylinux.us/psearch.html
Be sure to select Puppy Forum in the Web Source drop down selection.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 20:41    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:

Is canon ip1900 the printer you are trying to use?
How is it connecting to the computer?


Yes, my printer is Canon iP1980, it is connecting to the pc using USB cable, it doesn't have a fancy wifi connect.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 22:14    Post subject:  

My hunch was right, it was the CUPS in the BionicPup that is a FAILURE.
Today, I tried to run XenialPup64 from the flash drive, to test and see wether the CUPS "add printer" dialog is the same as Bionic Pup, and the result shocked me, it showing the right thing, same as the other linux system. It's not about the driver, it's the CUPS. idk how to remove or repair CUPS in puppy, maybe you can guide me about it? if the deb or pet file for cups available it can be done by myself, but if it is a .tar.gz thinggy, I totally lost on that.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 22:31    Post subject:  

quenyan wrote:
bigpup wrote:

Is canon ip1900 the printer you are trying to use?
How is it connecting to the computer?


Yes, my printer is Canon iP1980, it is connecting to the pc using USB cable, it doesn't have a fancy wifi connect.


I DO NOT HAVE A CANON PRINTER
The information is for recreational purposes only. If you mis-use the following information I will deny I ever posted it Smile
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First, I do not see any 64-bit linux drivers for your ip1900 on the canon web site
https://canon-print.com/canon-pixma-ip1900-series-driver-windows-mac-linux/

https://drivers.eu/Printers/Canon/PIXMA%20iP1900/Linux

https://www.canon.com.au/printers/pixma-ip1900/support?

I think that maybe you have to use the gutenprint driver in CUPS

**************************
People on the interwebs report success. I have no way to test any of this.
Read standard disclaimer and use at your own risk Smile
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https://askubuntu.com/questions/931589/trouble-printing-from-canon-ip-1980

Printer Canon iP1900 Driver for Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic How to Download & Install (links are on page with many tricky ads)
https://tutorialforlinux.com/2018/06/27/printer-canon-ip1900-driver-for-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-how-to-download-install/

Probably not helpful but better than nothing Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 22:38    Post subject:  

quenyan wrote:
My hunch was right, it was the CUPS in the BionicPup that is a FAILURE.
Today, I tried to run XenialPup64 from the flash drive, to test and see wether the CUPS "add printer" dialog is the same as Bionic Pup, and the result shocked me, it showing the right thing, same as the other linux system. It's not about the driver, it's the CUPS. idk how to remove or repair CUPS in puppy, maybe you can guide me about it? if the deb or pet file for cups available it can be done by myself, but if it is a .tar.gz thinggy, I totally lost on that.

The image below shows what should the CUPS showing if "add printer" is selected.


The following is my opinion. I use it every day for over 60 years and it seems to work for me.
Maybe it will help you Smile
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I think you should use Xenial then.

The only reason to use Bionic would be due to Bionic supporting some part of your hardware devices that you need to use that Xenial does not support.
It seems to be the other way around, Xenial works so I would use that.

Replacing CUPS is nothing a sane person would want to try. We do have insane persons in the forum
and they will help you try though Smile

Good Luck, I think you will need it if you try to upgrade CUPS Smile
Some people are lucky though.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 23:14    Post subject:  

perdido wrote:
quenyan wrote:
bigpup wrote:

Is canon ip1900 the printer you are trying to use?
How is it connecting to the computer?


Yes, my printer is Canon iP1980, it is connecting to the pc using USB cable, it doesn't have a fancy wifi connect.


I DO NOT HAVE A CANON PRINTER
The information is for recreational purposes only. If you mis-use the following information I will deny I ever posted it Smile
--------------------------------------------

First, I do not see any 64-bit linux drivers for your ip1900 on the canon web site
https://canon-print.com/canon-pixma-ip1900-series-driver-windows-mac-linux/

https://drivers.eu/Printers/Canon/PIXMA%20iP1900/Linux

https://www.canon.com.au/printers/pixma-ip1900/support?

I think that maybe you have to use the gutenprint driver in CUPS

**************************
People on the interwebs report success. I have no way to test any of this.
Read standard disclaimer and use at your own risk Smile
**************************
https://askubuntu.com/questions/931589/trouble-printing-from-canon-ip-1980

Printer Canon iP1900 Driver for Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic How to Download & Install (links are on page with many tricky ads)
https://tutorialforlinux.com/2018/06/27/printer-canon-ip1900-driver-for-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-how-to-download-install/

Probably not helpful but better than nothing Smile

.


it is helpful for people who is having trouble installing ip1900 driver on linux 64bit system, since canon themself claim that there is no driver for 64bit linux machine. however, i already bookmarked the solution, and it is the only solution that works, it maybe helpful for someone who also have ip1900 series printer.
This is the site:
https://seegatesite.com/installing-driver-canon-pixma-ip1900-series-on-linux-ubuntu-work/
its easy to follow, so i leave this here for other.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 23:23    Post subject:  

perdido wrote:
quenyan wrote:
My hunch was right, it was the CUPS in the BionicPup that is a FAILURE.
Today, I tried to run XenialPup64 from the flash drive, to test and see wether the CUPS "add printer" dialog is the same as Bionic Pup, and the result shocked me, it showing the right thing, same as the other linux system. It's not about the driver, it's the CUPS. idk how to remove or repair CUPS in puppy, maybe you can guide me about it? if the deb or pet file for cups available it can be done by myself, but if it is a .tar.gz thinggy, I totally lost on that.

The image below shows what should the CUPS showing if "add printer" is selected.


The following is my opinion. I use it every day for over 60 years and it seems to work for me.
Maybe it will help you Smile
--------------------------------------

I think you should use Xenial then.

The only reason to use Bionic would be due to Bionic supporting some part of your hardware devices that you need to use that Xenial does not support.
It seems to be the other way around, Xenial works so I would use that.

Replacing CUPS is nothing a sane person would want to try. We do have insane persons in the forum
and they will help you try though Smile

Good Luck, I think you will need it if you try to upgrade CUPS Smile
Some people are lucky though.

.


yes, it seems that way, it seems VERY hard to mess with CUPS, whether replacing/upgrading/degrading it. I hope one day CUPS can be easily settled in PPM or at least in the terminal.

so,yeah, i think the conclusion is to install XenialPup64 on my laptop. I have to say goodbye to BionicPup64..

thank you for your assistance, good sir.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec 2019, 00:44    Post subject:  

quenyan wrote:
perdido wrote:
quenyan wrote:
My hunch was right, it was the CUPS in the BionicPup that is a FAILURE.
Today, I tried to run XenialPup64 from the flash drive, to test and see wether the CUPS "add printer" dialog is the same as Bionic Pup, and the result shocked me, it showing the right thing, same as the other linux system. It's not about the driver, it's the CUPS. idk how to remove or repair CUPS in puppy, maybe you can guide me about it? if the deb or pet file for cups available it can be done by myself, but if it is a .tar.gz thinggy, I totally lost on that.

The image below shows what should the CUPS showing if "add printer" is selected.


The following is my opinion. I use it every day for over 60 years and it seems to work for me.
Maybe it will help you Smile
--------------------------------------

I think you should use Xenial then.

The only reason to use Bionic would be due to Bionic supporting some part of your hardware devices that you need to use that Xenial does not support.
It seems to be the other way around, Xenial works so I would use that.

Replacing CUPS is nothing a sane person would want to try. We do have insane persons in the forum
and they will help you try though Smile

Good Luck, I think you will need it if you try to upgrade CUPS Smile
Some people are lucky though.

.


yes, it seems that way, it seems VERY hard to mess with CUPS, whether replacing/upgrading/degrading it. I hope one day CUPS can be easily settled in PPM or at least in the terminal.

so,yeah, i think the conclusion is to install XenialPup64 on my laptop. I have to say goodbye to BionicPup64..

thank you for your assistance, good sir.

Sometimes the solution is right in front of us and we don't even see it.

Goodnight to you fellow linuxian.Smile

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