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PostPosted: Wed 20 Nov 2019, 11:17    Post subject:  

Didnt take very long, f2fs works, but wiper dont. Try that on doze.

# ./wiper.sh /mnt/home

wiper.sh: Linux SATA SSD TRIM utility, version 3.6, by Mark Lord.
/sbin/hdparm: unrecognized option: V
BusyBox v1.31.0 (2019-08-05 23:31:11 +0Cool multi-call binary.

Usage: hdparm [OPTIONS] [DEVICE]

-v Defaults; same as -mcudkrag for IDE drives
-V Display program version and exit immediately

./wiper.sh: line 123: [: -lt: unary operator expected
/dev/mmcblk0p2: unable to reliably determine the underlying physical device name, aborting
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Nov 2019, 13:06    Post subject:  

Still running great. Very Happy


Couple of minor issues to point out.

I installed Hexchat from the PPM which runs now having checked the SSL boxes but I get this message up beforehand '* Running IRC as root is stupid! You should create a User Account and use that to login'.


Also,after making a Pupsave Backup from the utility menu,this message stays behind 'Saving Session to Savfolder', until a 'Restart graphical server' is performed.
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Polivko

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov 2019, 01:54    Post subject: Problem with Cameras on Raspup Buster
Subject description: Can't get cameras to work.
 

Hi Micko. Thank you for amazing Puppy edition for Paspberri Pi. It's very impressive to run Puppy in RAM.
I installed Motion Package from repository and trying to use both built-in and USB cameras on Raspup Buster. So far no luck with recognizing cameras. Modprobe /dev/video* returns video10, video11, video12 but not video0.

Sorry, I didn't use boot options for long time. What is difference between "raspup-ram" and "raspup-copy" options in bootmenu? Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov 2019, 05:37    Post subject:  

Raspup is a great innovation. Because of the few OS available for the Pi 4, Raspup is very useful way to try the Pi 4 as a desktop replacement.

I've just Installed the latest version and loaded LibreOffice and Vivaldi, which runs well in my Pi 4.

Qn: However, Im not sure why Libre office Draw is not available in the menu.

Rasbian is a great system but comes with only basic apps. With Raspup one is ready to go with a wide variety of options. And the boot options are accessible, if not immediately understood, by new users.

Qn: How can one change the order of the blue boot menu options ? I would like my pupsave boot to appear at the top and/or be the default.

I really appreciate the sfs download menu item, even if there are only a few items available at present.

Great job, and thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov 2019, 17:30    Post subject: Re: Problem with Cameras on Raspup Buster
Subject description: Can't get cameras to work.
 

Polivko wrote:
Hi Micko. Thank you for amazing Puppy edition for Paspberri Pi. It's very impressive to run Puppy in RAM.
I installed Motion Package from repository and trying to use both built-in and USB cameras on Raspup Buster. So far no luck with recognizing cameras. Modprobe /dev/video* returns video10, video11, video12 but not video0.

Sorry, I didn't use boot options for long time. What is difference between "raspup-ram" and "raspup-copy" options in bootmenu? Thank you.


No use to 'modprobe /dev/video' because that isn't a module.

motion program works here with a logitec webcam.

Be sure to run
Code:
motion -h
for help.

Adjust the config file at /etc/motion/motion.conf and where it says videodevice adjust to a valid device, /dev/video10 or whatever.

Code:
ls /dev | grep video
video0
video1
video10
video11
video12


They are mine, and I don't know why so many. Anyway mine works with /dev/video0

You can test your cam in gnome-mplayer. Menu >> MultiMedia >> GNOME Mplayer

Once it opens go to File >> TV >> Open Analog TV

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Nov 2019, 17:34    Post subject:  

Geek3579 wrote:
Raspup is a great innovation. Because of the few OS available for the Pi 4, Raspup is very useful way to try the Pi 4 as a desktop replacement.

I've just Installed the latest version and loaded LibreOffice and Vivaldi, which runs well in my Pi 4.

Qn: However, Im not sure why Libre office Draw is not available in the menu.

Rasbian is a great system but comes with only basic apps. With Raspup one is ready to go with a wide variety of options. And the boot options are accessible, if not immediately understood, by new users.

Qn: How can one change the order of the blue boot menu options ? I would like my pupsave boot to appear at the top and/or be the default.

I really appreciate the sfs download menu item, even if there are only a few items available at present.

Great job, and thanks.


To keep it light I left Draw and others out of the libreoffice sfs. If you remove the sfs the full libreoffice should install ok from PPM, that's how I made the sfs, however it may be that you need to install the individual components.

To boot the save file by default look in the menu .. Menu >> Setup >> Set Default Boot Option. This will take effect even if you do not save the session.

HTH

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Polivko

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Nov 2019, 15:29    Post subject:  

Unfortunately, built-in camera doesn't respond to any changes of video device setting in /etc/motion/motion.conf. USB camera works fine (as /dev/video0) in Motion and in GNOME Mplayer. It looks like the native Raspberry camera doesn't enable. Is there any chance to enable it (like config script on Raspbian)?
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Nov 2019, 16:16    Post subject:  

Polivko

Can you post your /var/log/messages file please soon after boot? I don't own a native pi camera so there may be some software or firmware missing from raspup.

Code:
cat /var/log/messages | gzip -9 > $HOME/messages_log.gz


If you run that code in a virtual terminal that will compress the log in /root so you can easily upload it to this forum as an attachment.

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov 2019, 14:18    Post subject:  

Here is my message log.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2019, 05:15    Post subject:  

Polivko

Your kernel log looks in order, however I think that the kernel module for the native camera is not loading.

Can you provide an
Code:
lsmod # may need sudo lsmod
from raspbian with the camera plugged in? Then provide the same for raspup.

That will show what modules are loaded in respective OS.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2019, 16:17    Post subject:  

Here is lsmod from Raspbian:
Code:
~ $ sudo lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
rfcomm                 49152  4
bnep                   20480  2
hci_uart               40960  1
btbcm                  16384  1 hci_uart
serdev                 20480  1 hci_uart
bluetooth             389120  29 hci_uart,bnep,btbcm,rfcomm
ecdh_generic           28672  1 bluetooth
8021q                  32768  0
garp                   16384  1 8021q
stp                    16384  1 garp
llc                    16384  2 garp,stp
brcmfmac              311296  0
brcmutil               16384  1 brcmfmac
sg                     28672  0
uas                    24576  0
sha256_generic         20480  0
cfg80211              614400  1 brcmfmac
rfkill                 28672  6 bluetooth,cfg80211
snd_bcm2835            24576  1
snd_pcm               102400  1 snd_bcm2835
snd_timer              32768  1 snd_pcm
raspberrypi_hwmon      16384  0
hwmon                  16384  1 raspberrypi_hwmon
snd                    73728  5 snd_timer,snd_bcm2835,snd_pcm
bcm2835_codec          36864  1
v4l2_mem2mem           24576  1 bcm2835_codec
videobuf2_dma_contig    20480  1 bcm2835_codec
fixed                  16384  0
uio_pdrv_genirq        16384  0
uio                    20480  1 uio_pdrv_genirq
bcm2835_v4l2           45056  1
bcm2835_mmal_vchiq     32768  2 bcm2835_codec,bcm2835_v4l2
vc_sm_cma              36864  1 bcm2835_mmal_vchiq
v4l2_common            16384  1 bcm2835_v4l2
videobuf2_vmalloc      16384  1 bcm2835_v4l2
videobuf2_memops       16384  2 videobuf2_dma_contig,videobuf2_vmalloc
videobuf2_v4l2         24576  3 bcm2835_codec,bcm2835_v4l2,v4l2_mem2mem
videobuf2_common       45056  4 bcm2835_codec,bcm2835_v4l2,v4l2_mem2mem,videobuf2_v4l2
videodev              200704  8 bcm2835_codec,v4l2_common,videobuf2_common,bcm2835_v4l2,v4l2_mem2mem,videobuf2_v4l2
media                  36864  3 bcm2835_codec,videodev,v4l2_mem2mem
i2c_dev                20480  0
ip_tables              24576  0
x_tables               32768  1 ip_tables
ipv6                  450560  26
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2019, 16:57    Post subject:  

Here is lsmod for raspup:
Code:

# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
joydev                 20480  0
8021q                  32768  0
garp                   16384  1 8021q
stp                    16384  1 garp
llc                    16384  2 garp,stp
brcmfmac              282624  0
brcmutil               16384  1 brcmfmac
sha256_generic         20480  0
cfg80211              598016  1 brcmfmac
rfkill                 28672  1 cfg80211
snd_bcm2835            24576  0
snd_pcm                98304  1 snd_bcm2835
snd_seq_midi           16384  0
snd_seq_midi_event     16384  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_rawmidi            32768  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq                69632  2 snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_device         16384  3 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_midi
snd_timer              32768  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    73728  6 snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_bcm2835,snd_pcm
raspberrypi_hwmon      16384  0
hwmon                  16384  1 raspberrypi_hwmon
fixed                  16384  0
bcm2835_codec          36864  0
v4l2_mem2mem           24576  1 bcm2835_codec
videobuf2_dma_contig    20480  1 bcm2835_codec
bcm2835_v4l2           45056  0
bcm2835_mmal_vchiq     32768  2 bcm2835_codec,bcm2835_v4l2
vc_sm_cma              36864  1 bcm2835_mmal_vchiq
v4l2_common            16384  1 bcm2835_v4l2
videobuf2_vmalloc      16384  1 bcm2835_v4l2
videobuf2_memops       16384  2 videobuf2_dma_contig,videobuf2_vmalloc
videobuf2_v4l2         24576  3 bcm2835_codec,bcm2835_v4l2,v4l2_mem2mem
videobuf2_common       45056  4 bcm2835_codec,bcm2835_v4l2,v4l2_mem2mem,videobuf2_v4l2
videodev              184320  6 bcm2835_codec,v4l2_common,videobuf2_common,bcm2835_v4l2,v4l2_mem2mem,videobuf2_v4l2
media                  36864  3 bcm2835_codec,videodev,v4l2_mem2mem
uio_pdrv_genirq        16384  0
uio                    20480  1 uio_pdrv_genirq
hid_logitech_dj        20480  0
hid_logitech_hidpp     36864  0
#
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec 2019, 21:09    Post subject:  

A reminder to partition the first partition fat32 rather than fat16.

I made that mistake because I was using an old SD card that used berryboot (that uses fat16).
I spotted error in terminal output.
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My TV is used for screen. Raspup recognizes full resolution better than fatdogarm. Cool
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Slow to boot on first try. Faster the second time. I will report back.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec 2019, 03:41    Post subject:  

Just got around to using it on my v.3B+. Very clumsy SDcard prep and very slow start up with far too many selection menus upfront. Default res. is tiny and stresses my ageing monitor, not to mention eyes! But it works, including wifi. Any chance of streamlining things and more universal defaults selection? Raspbian std. seems a better choice at present.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec 2019, 20:46    Post subject:  

Quote:
Very clumsy SDcard prep


It needs to formatted by linux machine using gparted.
because of two partitions,

... but I wonder if it could be installed on a SD card that is fully fat32
which is how I have used fatdogarm. This works well since RAM is used.
Then a savefile is saved during shutdown. All files are fat32 compatible.
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