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no sound from Gateway Solo laptop
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MikeMT

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2007, 23:13    Post subject:  no sound from Gateway Solo laptop
Subject description: Soundblaster (Ensoniq) ens1371 card is found but no sound
 

Still trying to teach my Puppy "to heel." To bring this to the top and hopefully to be read by Pup trainers,I have added a new info and questions in reply 8.


If I can get the sound working, I will have a perfect Puppy.

system: Gateway Solo laptop, Celeron 450mgz, 64M Ram, 128M swapfile, Soundblaster (Ensoniq) ens1371 card.

Question: how can the sound be enabled? I have checked the volume and tried head phones. To me Puppy recognises the card, but I get the following error for modprobe. Other system info is included.

Thanks

sh-3.00# modprobe sb
Fatal: Error insertiing sb (/lib/modules/2.6.18.1/sound/oss/sb.ko): No such device

sh-3.00# modinfo snd-ens1371
filename: /lib/modules/2.6.18.1/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.ko
author: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>, Thomas Sailer <sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
license: GPL
description: Ensoniq/Creative AudioPCI ES1371+
vermagic: 2.6.18.1 mod_unload 486 gcc-3.4
depends: snd-pcm,snd-rawmidi,snd,gameport,snd-ac97-codec
alias: pci:v00001274d00001371sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001274d00005880sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001102d00008938sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
parm: lineio:Line In to Rear Out (0 = auto, 1 = force). (array of int)
parm: spdif:S/PDIF output (-1 = none, 0 = auto, 1 = force). (array of int)
parm: joystick_port:Joystick port address. (array of int)
parm: enable:Enable Ensoniq AudioPCI soundcard. (array of bool)
parm: id:ID string for Ensoniq AudioPCI soundcard. (array of charp)
parm: index:Index value for Ensoniq AudioPCI soundcard. (array of int)
sh-3.00#

sh-3.00# modinfo sb
filename: /lib/modules/2.6.18.1/kernel/sound/oss/sb.ko
description: OSS Soundblaster ISA PnP and legacy sound driver
license: GPL
vermagic: 2.6.18.1 mod_unload 486 gcc-3.4
depends: sb_lib
alias: pnp:cCTL0024dCTL0031*
alias: pnp:cCTL0025dCTL0031*
. . .
. . .
alias: pnp:cRTL3000d@@@2001d@X@2001d@H@0001*
alias: pnp:ctBA03b0dPNPb003*
parm: pnp:Went set to 0 will disable detection using PnP. Default is 1.
(int)
parm: acer:Set this to detect cards in some ACER notebooks (doesn't work with pnp) (int)
parm: esstype:ESS chip type (doesn't work with pnp) (int)
parm: sm_games:Enable support for Logitech soundman games (doesn't work with pnp) (int)
parm: type:You can set this to specific card type (doesn't work with pnp) (int)
parm: mpu_io:MPU base address (int)
parm: dma16:16-bit DMA channel (5,6,7) (int)
parm: dma:8-bit DMA channel (0,1,3) (int)
parm: irq:IRQ (5,7,9,10) (int)
parm: io:Soundblaster i/o base address (0x220,0x240,0x260,0x280) (int)
sh-3.00#

Puppy hardware-interfaces information
snd_ens1371
filename: /lib/modules/2.6.18.1/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.ko
author: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>, Thomas Sailer <sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
license: GPL
description: Ensoniq/Creative AudioPCI ES1371+
vermagic: 2.6.18.1 mod_unload 486 gcc-3.4
depends: snd-pcm,snd-rawmidi,snd,gameport,snd-ac97-codec
alias: pci:v00001274d00001371sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001274d00005880sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias: pci:v00001102d00008938sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
parm: lineio:Line In to Rear Out (0 = auto, 1 = force). (array of int)
parm: spdif:S/PDIF output (-1 = none, 0 = auto, 1 = force). (array of int)
parm: joystick_port:Joystick port address. (array of int)
parm: enable:Enable Ensoniq AudioPCI soundcard. (array of bool)
parm: id:ID string for Ensoniq AudioPCI soundcard. (array of charp)
parm: index:Index value for Ensoniq AudioPCI soundcard. (array of int)

from bootsysinit
Starting sound driver: snd-ens1371
done

text from dmesg
kernel BUG at block/ll_rw_blk.c:3115!
invalid opcode: 0000 [#1]
Modules linked in: snd_mixer_oss snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq lp parport_pc parport apm ltserial ltmodem snd_ens1371 gameport snd_rawmidi snd_seq_device snd_ac97_codec snd_ac97_bus snd_pcm snd_timer snd soundcore snd_page_alloc yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic i2c_piix4 i2c_core intel_agp agpgart fuse unionfs nls_iso8859_1 nls_cp437 sr_mod ide_cd cdrom uhci_hcd usbcore

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Mar 2007, 23:46    Post subject:  

You can help by telling us which version of Puppy you're using, and how. (E.g., Puppy 2.14 booting from live CD or USB flash memory, installed to hard drive, etc.)
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Mar 2007, 00:01    Post subject:  

Hey MikeMT,
I had the same problem on my solo but I never found a fix so I will be looking forward to this post good luck

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Mar 2007, 01:04    Post subject:  

I meant to put the version in my post, the breed is Puppy 2.14.
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Mar 2007, 01:06    Post subject:  

Oops. It is a frugal install on hdb1.
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MikeMT

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Mar 2007, 19:53    Post subject:  

Back with a bit more info:

I did lsmod on two computers which both have Puppy 2.14. The lsmod messages were nearly identical relative to sound modules except snd_page_alloc. Could this be the why the sound does not work? How can it be changed?

This is part of lsmod of computer 1, desktop, sound works.

soundcore 9408 3 sb_lib,sound,snd
snd_page_alloc 10008 2 snd_ens1370,snd_pcm


This is part of lsmod of computer 2, the Gateway laptop, sound does not work.

soundcore 9408 3 sb_lib,sound,snd
snd_page_alloc 10008 1 snd_pcm
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Mar 2007, 00:33    Post subject:  

I got it working somehow on my solo 2500.

I have no clue what I'm doing in Puppy -- still figuring out if I'm supposed to double click or single click on stuff...

Anyway, here's how I think I stumbled into making it work. I clicked the "Setup" link (red wrench) and went into the "wizard wizard" I believe. Then I clicked Setup ALSA Sound, and kind of went from there.

I had/have no idea what my soundcard is. I'm sure it's the same as yours but I didn't go to the trouble to look (yours sounds familiar though). Anyway, I just clicked on stuff that looked familiar, but I don't think I got the right card? Sooner or later, it said "Test the sound" -- I clicked it and it barked at me. Then I started getting sound from a video.

Full disclosure: aside from knowing absolutely nothing, I still don't have great results with Puppy. I've set it up to try and watch AVI episodes of TV, but I don't think my solo2500 has the horsepower. Video is choppy...

I've got 64MB of ram. Finally set up a swap of 900 MB today and haven't been able to test it again.

I've got the 333 processor, 2GB hard drive, puppy 2.13 off live CD.

I'll be excited if we can get this to work well on these machines.

Hope that helps. A stab in the dark but it seemed to work for me...
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2007, 13:14    Post subject:  

To Review:
system: Gateway Solo laptop, Celeron 450mgz, 64M Ram, 128M swapfile, Soundblaster (Ensoniq) ens1371 card, Puppy 2.14, frugal harddrive install.

I have checked the alsamixer volume. Volume is turned up and not muted.

from bootsysinit
Starting sound driver: snd-ens1371
done

I did lsmod on another computer which has Puppy 2.14. The lsmod messages were nearly identical relative to sound modules except snd_page_alloc. I think this means that memory has not been given to the sound card? Is that correct? Could this be the why the sound does not work on this Gateway laptop? How can it be changed?

This is part of lsmod of computer 1, desktop, sound works.

soundcore 9408 3 sb_lib,sound,snd
snd_page_alloc 10008 2 snd_ens1370,snd_pcm

This is part of lsmod of computer 2, Gateway laptop, sound does not work.

soundcore 9408 3 sb_lib,sound,snd
snd_page_alloc 10008 1 snd_pcm
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar 2007, 00:08    Post subject:  

Does the laptop have a physical volume control. Have you try using the function key to increase the volume?
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar 2007, 22:03    Post subject:  

I have tried increasing the volume using the outside button.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar 2007, 12:12    Post subject:  

Mike,

A few ideas.

1) I've got it working on my solo2500. If you want me to send you any files, let me know.

2) I just installed to hard drive, and had to redo the sound thing. I did the wizard wizard and chose the option for Soundblaster 16. Then it was weird for a while, I had to turn the volume WAY up to hear anything on an AVI file. Ultimately it started working again. Now the bottom right of my screen shows a "volume" icon...

3) Following up on paulsiu's question, do you know that the speakers work? Perhaps plugging in some headphones to test is worth your time?
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar 2007, 13:28    Post subject:  

My Solo is a bit older a 2150. I have Windows on another partition, so I know the sound works, and I tried the headphones. I also tried alsa probing SB16.

I would like to know what lsmod on your computer shows for snd_page_alloc. Mine lsmod shows snd_page_alloc 1008 1 snd_pcm.
If yours lists your sound card, then I think that my card just does not have any memory assigned to it.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar 2007, 16:14    Post subject:  

Mike,

I've got:
Code:

usb_storage            83904  0
snd_mixer_oss          17328  0
snd_opl3sa2            19372  0
snd_opl3_lib           10448  1 snd_opl3sa2
snd_hwdep               9076  1 snd_opl3_lib
snd_cs4231_lib         23856  1 snd_opl3sa2
snd_pcm                77592  1 snd_cs4231_lib
snd_timer              23540  3 snd_opl3_lib,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc         10008  2 snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart         8112  1 snd_opl3sa2
snd_rawmidi            24064  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device          7996  2 snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi
snd                    51396  10 snd_mixer_oss,snd_opl3sa2,snd_opl3_lib,snd_hwdep,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore               9408  1 snd
ndiswrapper           178100  0
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar 2007, 17:12    Post subject:  

PowPow,

I see yours is giving memory to the sound driver:

snd_page_alloc 10008 2 snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm

Now I have to find out how to do the same with my modules.

I tried your suggestion to have Alsa probe again for SB16 driver. Alsa found nothing.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri 09 May 2008, 12:31    Post subject: oss drivers  

I've got the same problem with my solo 2150. While scouring the web for a solution, I've seen where others have used oss drivers to get the sound working in other distros. I'm not sure how to do this with puppy though. Confused
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