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DebianDog - Jessie - Continued
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johnywhy


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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2018, 00:31    Post subject:  
Hi mikeslr!
(mike sailor?)

mikeslr wrote:
Start with either BionicDog, or --perhaps better considering the later step--stretchdog


i avoided bionic cuz it's relatively huge, and avoided Stretch cuz it's called "Preview" on git. But ok, i'm downloading bionic and stretch now. I just finished trying out XenialDog, MintDog, Jessie, trinitydog, and MintPup-Trusty. I'll post my impressions to a separate thread shortly (hint, trinity is the only one i like).

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Don't worry about the Window Manager for the moment.


window manager is on my short list. Before i make a time investment, I have to know a distro supports xfce (or now, Trinity) without much/any implementation (i don't mean customizing, that's fine. I just mean effort to make it work at all).

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unique tools built into the DebianDogs, including those relating to remastering. Saintless was very conscientious about providing solid documentation, and fred has continued to do so.

well that's awesome, and thank you saintless! Tho' his documentation here is confusing, cuz he says to use root to give boot as puppy-user.... Confused
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=850601#850601
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1003641#1003641

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....9 pages on rcrsn51's starter kit thread is packed full of useful information.

grrp... hrm... um... did you say 9 pages? See note above about "without much/any implementation" Very Happy Mikeslr, i understand you're trying to get me to be a puppy dev, but not likely. Apologies to everyone that i simply want to be a user (and puppy proselytizer Smile

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there appears to be very little advantage in an Ubuntu based operating system over a debian

i'm not partial, and we can add slack to teh list.

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unlike you using apt isn't something to which I've grown accustomed.

me neither, actually. I have used it a bunch no probs, but, when i share my final result with non-geek friends, i want them to have a GUI package manager, not command-line.

THX!
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2018, 03:29    Post subject:  
Hi johnywhy,

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and avoided Stretch cuz it's called "Preview" on git.


I think what you saw was 'Stretch' on the DebianDog organization.
Back then it was a preview, but later named 'StretchDog', see:
https://debiandog.github.io/doglinux/zz02stretchdog.html
Or:
https://github.com/fredx181/StretchDog

There's a Stretch starter kit I made with full XFCE (no Openbox) here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=994600#994600
(but it's minimal, need to install e.g. browser, mediaplayer yourself)

Or, as mikeslr already said, build with XFCE option using the mklive-stretch script, then you can add whatever you want.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=962752#962752

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and thank you saintless! Tho' his documentation here is confusing, cuz he says to use root to give boot as puppy-user....

Can't see why it's confusing, what saintless means is to change "-f root" to "-f puppy" on that line in /etc/inittab

Have fun with all the testing !

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johnywhy


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PostPosted: Tue 04 Sep 2018, 19:24    Post subject:  
many thx, Fred. Wow! StretchDog is now officially my favorite linux! It's the smallest, lightest xfce "real" linux i've seen. Very well put together!

xtahr is my favorite "unreal" xfce linux. Tahr idles about half the RAM of Stretch.

now if we could just make StretchDog as light on RAM as xtarh Smile
see http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1003741#1003741

i may try to roll my own stretch Surprised
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zagreb999

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Oct 2018, 09:08    Post subject: Liquorix kernel for dd?  
Liquorix kernel for dd?

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=43202
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Oct 2018, 06:36    Post subject: Re: Liquorix kernel for dd?  
zagreb999 wrote:
Liquorix kernel for dd?

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=43202


Liquorix kernel does not have aufs included, so cannot be used with the porteus-boot style.

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sindi

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Apr 2019, 14:21    Post subject: updated sources.list for jessie  
What should sources.list include so that I can update jessie?
kazza... files are listed but no longer exist.
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Apr 2019, 15:41    Post subject: Re: updated sources.list for jessie  
sindi wrote:
What should sources.list include so that I can update jessie?
kazza... files are listed but no longer exist.


Hi sindi, this thread is for Openbox version, it doesn't have the kazza line in sources.list.

You are talking about JWM - Jessie version (I saw also in Wheezy thread).
Yeah, it's not maintained anymore by saintless.
Looks like there are too many issues to sort out, I can't help, sorry.

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RickGT351

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2020, 19:34    Post subject:  
Is there the equivalent of a devx package available? I've had to start playing with Python to install ProtonVPN-cli and one thing leads to another as seems to be the case in Linux.
Here's why I need it
Code:
root@jessie64:~/Python-3.6.9# ./configure --enable-optimizations --enable-shared --with-ensurepip=install
checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking for python3.6... no
checking for python3... python3
checking for --enable-universalsdk... no
checking for --with-universal-archs... no
checking MACHDEP... linux
checking for --without-gcc... no
checking for --with-icc... no
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler works... no
configure: error: in `/root/Python-3.6.9':
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details
root@jessie64:~/Python-3.6.9# sudo apt-get install foxireader
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2020, 06:57    Post subject:  
Hi RickGT351,

Yes, download DEVX: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ljoqavqpqhad9tl/061-DEVX-DebDog64-Jessie-2016-03-20.squashfs?dl=1
(BTW, there's dedicated thread for Debiandog jessie 64-bit, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=101931, with link to this DEVX at the bottom of first post)

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zagreb999

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jan 2020, 18:31    Post subject:  
regards

i installed again ddog,
but i can not find a way to
work tumbler-
to see images in thunar!

missing libraries?
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