EasyOS version 2.3.2, June 22, 2020

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#2181 Post by Auronius »

Good day!
There is one thing, that is very important for me - proper font rendering. It is because there are a lot of explanation pages in EasyOS, and I have to read a lot of text. And my eyes got tired...
The problem is, that RGBA font rendering does not working properly in almost all apps, except urxvt and Chromium.
Here are my font rendering settings.
And here is the result.
As you can see the same font has been rendered differently! In urxvt the RGBA rendering is working properly. The font is smooth and pleasant to eyes, just like in Linux Mint 18. But in Sakura, looks like the RGBA rendering does not working as it should be. Font looks blurry (look at t letter for example), and while reading this font, my eyes got tired... The difference is visible the best, if you look at letters t, r and q.
3. Is it possible to make, that all applications fonts would have proper RGBA rendering, just like in urxvt?

And some new problems, not so important, but still worth to mention.
1. When I launch Input Devices settings, this window always pops out, which is annoying.
2. PET Package Manager sometimes completely freezes and stops responding. In such cases I can not do anything on desktop except hard restart.
3. Please, do not forget about my previous post.

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#2182 Post by BarryK »

Continuing with writing documentation, now a how-to on translating EasyOS to any language:

https://bkhome.org/news/202001/how-to-t ... asyos.html
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#2183 Post by BarryK »

There were some earlier posts discussing the merits of booting Easy from a USB-stick versus an ISO. The ability to bootup on different PCs was seen as an advantage for the ISO.

There are some things that you might setup for particular hardware, such as run the XorgWizard, or the Multiple Sound Card Wizard. These make changes, for example /etc/X11/xorg.conf, that may be wrong if the USB-stick is booted on a different PC.

However, Easy has "hardware profiling" for Xorg, that automatically takes care of this situation. So for Xorg anyway, you can merrily bootup on any number of different PCs.

This hardware profiling for Xorg needed some fixing for /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, see blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202001/improved ... -xorg.html

...see my comment about Puppy.

EDIT:
I posted to this woof-CE thread:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 05#1047605
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#2184 Post by Max Headroom »

G'day All, I've taken EasyOS 2.2.3 for a Spin, Boots & Runs Fine from the USB Flasher Drive az it's Designed for However I'm having Trouble Setting Up WiFi w/ the Newer Network Manager & Using the Classic interNet Connection Wizard it can't find any Wireless Chip ( which does Work w/ Windows 10 ), @ the moment it's Connecting via Eth0. Any Help w/ this would be Appreciated.

Also I've attempted a Dual Boot Frugal install w/ Windows 10 in the Root of sda2, But Grub4Dos Bootloader config wRote the menu.lst File 2 sda1, so I just get ERROR: Boot partition not found, after finding drives...
Have now dropped into a shell in the initramfs, etc

Here's the Suspect eXcerpt

# Frugal installed Puppy

title EZ-OS64-sda2 Buster 2.2.3 (sda2)
find --set-root uuid () 14D8E391D8E36F82
kernel /vmlinuz rw
initrd /initrd

title EZ-OS64 Buster 2.2.3 (sda2)
find --set-root uuid () 14D8E391D8E36F82
kernel /vmlinuz pdrv=14D8E391D8E36F82 pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
initrd /initrd

Please Help me Fix this, Windows 10 Still Boots OK, Hardware info: 2012 Acer Aspire 5750Z, Legacy BIOS 2 GHz Dual Core Pentium, 4 GB RAMemory, 500 GB SATA

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#2185 Post by BarryK »

I have made a start on hard-profiling for sound:

https://bkhome.org/news/202001/hardware ... audio.html

Does anyone have a PC with two sound cards? If so, would you mind doing that little test that I posted about on the blog?

If lspci does not list the cards in same order as 'aplay -l', then I will have to figure it out differently.
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#2186 Post by jamesbond »

Barry, unless one is running the PC as a professional DAW, it is extremely rare that one has more than one PCI soundcard. The most common reason for having multiple soundcard is with USB audio dongle, and that cannot be captured with lspci.
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#2187 Post by rcrsn51 »

jamesbond wrote:Barry, unless one is running the PC as a professional DAW, it is extremely rare that one has more than one PCI soundcard.
Some machines will list their HDMI audio and analog audio as separate cards.

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#2188 Post by ndujoe1 »

that is correct my HDMI sound is so listed.

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#2189 Post by BarryK »

ndujoe1 wrote:that is correct my HDMI sound is so listed.
rcrsn51, ndujoe1,
That's very interesting, thanks for reporting that.

ndujoe1, ould you mind running the following and post the output here?:

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# aplay -l | grep '^card '
EDIT:
Oh yes, this as well please:

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# lspci -d ::0403
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#2190 Post by BarryK »

jamesbond wrote:Barry, unless one is running the PC as a professional DAW, it is extremely rare that one has more than one PCI soundcard. The most common reason for having multiple soundcard is with USB audio dongle, and that cannot be captured with lspci.
Which raises the question how to detect the type of usb audio device. 'lsusb' maybe, but as far as I know, there would have to be a search for a suitable text string. For example, here is result on my laptop:

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# lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04f2:b5e0 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd 
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 8087:0aa7 Intel Corp. 
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0000:3825  
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
...some of those strings are not very helpful!

EDIT:
Easy 2.2.3 has the 'usb-devices' utility, that provides a lot more information.
I have ordered one of these:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Audio-Adapt ... 3321212848
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#2191 Post by ndujoe1 »

here is my output:

I am trying to get Easy OS to recognize and use the microphone on the Microsoft LX2000 usb webcam which has the product id: 045e:0761 Microsoft Corp which you see listed

[b]lsusb output[/b]

Bus 002 Device 002: ID 045e:0761 Microsoft Corp.
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 002: ID 413c:2107 Dell Computer Corp.
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0781:55a5 SanDisk Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:c52f Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
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lspci output
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00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express DRAM Controller (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 02)
00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express MEI Controller (rev 02)
00:03.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express PT IDER Controller (rev 02)
00:03.3 Serial controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Serial KT Controller (rev 02)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02)
00:1a.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 02)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 02)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 92)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801IO (ICH9DO) LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801IR/IO/IH (ICH9R/DO/DH) 4 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 09)
04:00.0 IDE interface: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE6101/6102 single-port PATA133 interface (rev b2)
07:03.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): LSI Corporation FW322/323 [TrueFire] 1394a Controller (rev 70)

[b]aplay output[/b]
null
Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
jack
JACK Audio Connection Kit

This is an old Vista box circa 2007 which works fine otherwise.

pulse
PulseAudio Sound Server
default:CARD=Intel
HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
Default Audio Device
sysdefault:CARD=Intel
HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
Front speakers
surround21:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
dmix:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, ALC268 Analog
Hardware device with all software conversions
usbstream:CARD=Intel
HDA Intel
USB Stream Output
hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=1
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=2
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
HDMI Audio Output
dmix:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=NVidia,DEV=7
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=NVidia,DEV=8
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=NVidia,DEV=9
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=NVidia,DEV=7
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=NVidia,DEV=8
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=NVidia,DEV=9
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=7
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=8
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=9
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=7
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=8
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=9
HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
Hardware device with all software conversions
usbstream:CARD=NVidia
HDA NVidia
USB Stream Output
usbstream:CARD=VX2000
Microsoft® LifeCam VX-2000
USB Stream Output

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#2192 Post by BarryK »

@ndujoe1
Would you mind running them exactly like this:

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# aplay -l | grep '^card '	

# lspci -d ::0403
Because this is how they are currently run in my script, and I need to see exactly what output you get. Thanks for your patience!
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#2193 Post by ndujoe1 »

no problem, thanks to you for your knowledge and all of your work improving things, thinking outside of the box.

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#2194 Post by ndujoe1 »

here is the output per your instructions:

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC268 Analog [ALC268 Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)

Note that the Microsoft Lifecam VX2000 not in the second output.

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#2195 Post by williams2 »

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# aplay -l | grep '^card '
card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
card 1: Generic_1 [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC269VC Analog [ALC269VC Analog]
# lspci -d ::0403
00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler HDMI Audio
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller (rev 01)
#
Running BionicPup64.

I think you can create software cards in /etc/asound.conf
which can change the card numbers.
I don't know whether that could change the order of the "hardware" cards.

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EasyOS Pyro 1.3, Buster 2.2,3 December 27, 2019

#2196 Post by Billtoo »

I have easy 2.2.3 installed on my HP desktop, I did that a couple of days
ago, there were 2 bluetooth icons in the panel.
I added an amd radeon card some time ago (years), original was intel graphics.
Today I chose the "exit to command line" menu option and then ran xorgwizard,
chose the proper resolution,and the radeon driver, exited and did "xwin jwm" to
get back to the desktop.

I never notice any change until this current session a few hours later but
there is only 1 bluetooth icon showing in the panel now.

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
Memory 4039MB (276MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System

OpenGL
Vendor X.Org
Renderer AMD OLAND (DRM 2.50.0, 5.4.10, LLVM 7.0.1)
Version 4.5 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 18.3.6
Direct Rendering Y_es


Edit:

I disabled the amd card in the bios, unplugged the hdmi cable, connected the
vga cable to the built in graphics port and rebooted, 2 bluetooth icons showing.
I exited to the prompt and ran xorgwizard, it displayed a message saying
"you have 2 graphics cards,which one do you want to use",chose intel and it
tested ok, did "xwin jwm" back to the desktop, only 1 bluetooth icon again.

OpenGL
Vendor Intel Open Source Technology Center
Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) G33
Version 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6
Direct Rendering Y_es

Edit:

Next time I booted I had to run xorgwizard again to get intel so I shut down and removed the amd card from the computer.
Plugged the drive into another computer and did a new install.
Back in the older HP and have setup bluetooth again,screenshot shows it's back to 2 bluetooth icons in the panel again!

Egad, I also dual boot the latest Mint and PClinuxOS on this HP and bluetooth works okay on those.
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Re: EasyOS Pyro 1.3, Buster 2.2,3 December 27, 2019

#2197 Post by Terry H »

Billtoo wrote: I never notice any change until this current session a few hours later but
there is only 1 bluetooth icon showing in the panel now.
My 2.2.3 installation on my Dell Laptop with i3-5200U had 2 bluetooth icons, then yesterday it had 1 for a while, then after a reboot it had 2 again. :cry:

On the next release I will do a new easydd install rather than manual upgrade, to not carry over any issues which may effect functionality.

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#2198 Post by jamesbond »

williams2 wrote:I think you can create software cards in /etc/asound.conf
which can change the card numbers.
I don't know whether that could change the order of the "hardware" cards.
You can. But you can't do it with /etc/asound.conf. You need to do it with /etc/modprobe.conf because the order is set at module-load time (i.e, at boot time).

Here is mine:

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# lspci -d ::0403
04:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device 15de
04:00.6 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 15e3
# aplay -l | grep '^card '
card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC255 Analog [ALC255 Analog]
card 1: HDMI [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Without anything, I will get HDMI as the 'card 0' and the analog soundcard as 'card 1', which is no good because I don't have a TV connected to my HDMI port.
To swap it, this is what I use in /etc/modprobe.conf.d/swap-card.conf:

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options snd-hda-intel id=HDMI index=1
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#2199 Post by BarryK »

ndujoe1 wrote:here is the output per your instructions:

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC268 Analog [ALC268 Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)

Note that the Microsoft Lifecam VX2000 not in the second output.
Ah yes, NVIDIA. Is it a PCI card? I am wondering about the NVIDIA audio, how does that work? -- I mean, is there 3.5mm audio socket on the NVIDIA card, or is the audio intended to go to speakers on the monitor?
...I don't know anything about NVIDIA audio, hence these basic questions!
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Re: EasyOS Pyro 1.3, Buster 2.2,3 December 27, 2019

#2200 Post by BarryK »

Terry H wrote:
Billtoo wrote: I never notice any change until this current session a few hours later but
there is only 1 bluetooth icon showing in the panel now.
My 2.2.3 installation on my Dell Laptop with i3-5200U had 2 bluetooth icons, then yesterday it had 1 for a while, then after a reboot it had 2 again. :cry:

On the next release I will do a new easydd install rather than manual upgrade, to not carry over any issues which may effect functionality.
Don't worry about it, I know why those two icons got launched, and it is fixed.
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