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EasyOS Buster 2.2.5, January 22, 2020
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lp-dolittle

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jan 2020, 06:08    Post subject: gparted 1.0.0
Subject description: confusing information
 

@ Barry

Hi Barry,

as some additional testing showed, gparted 1.0.0 is not really capable of correctly dealing with flash sticks which contain hybrid iso-images.

The screenshot in the attacchment came about as follows:

1. Running EasyOS-2.2.3, I plugged in a flash-stick on which I previously had copied the Quirky-8.6.1-iso. No drive icon(s) appeared on the desktop.

2. After restarting the x-sever, the drive icons sdc1 and sdc2 appeared on the desktop and could be opened/mounted.

3. gparted 1.0.0 seemed to have access to the flash-stick already before the x-server restart. The stick already was displayed as ISOIMAGE TYPE="iso9660", but the iso's content was not shown. Despite repeatedly 'refreshing' gparted, this information remained unchanged after restarting x and after sdc1 and sdc2 were accessed (mounted/opened) by mouse clicks! Gparted continues displaying sdc as 'Not mounted'.


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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jan 2020, 09:55    Post subject: Re: Buster 2.2.3 fixed it  

scsijon wrote:
You may be pleased to know that other than showing ?two bluetooth icons in the tray for some reason, my troublesome laptop is, at this stage, troublesome no more. It seems to have installed to the ssd ok.


Yes, I know about the two bluetooth icons. That is fixed.

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jan 2020, 10:04    Post subject: Re: EasyOS-2.2.3 observations
Subject description: Ethernet tray applet, gparted 1.0.0., boot device security
 

lp-dolittle wrote:
3. Furthermore, I became aware of a possibly underestimated security risk which relates to the 'copy session to RAM & disable drives' option!
When I boot EasyOS-2.2 or EasyOS-2.2.3 from an external hard-disk, choosing this option, I later can remove and reattach the boot drive and now have full access to its partitions! Full access to everything, no encryption protection. Remarkably this 'method' also 'works' if I boot from an EasyOS-2.2.3 partition, remove it and plug in an EasyOS-2.2 drive whose working partition is encrypted. Full access to everything!
Should the 'copy to RAM & disable drives' option involve a 'transiently manipulate UUID' mechanism? Sorry, for this awkward wording; I do not know a suitable expression.


That is intentional. I don't see how it is a security risk. It involves you physically replugging the drive. Or, do you mean that you can "remove and reattach" the boot drive some other way?

The whole idea is that to be protected, you don't plug or replug anything. You would only do so if you want to save something, then unplug it.

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jan 2020, 12:06    Post subject: security risk
Subject description: removing and reattaching the boot drive
 

@ Barry,

Hi Barry,

of course, you are right!

The risk, I'm thinking of can be considered 'user-related', and I tried to figure out a way to minimise this risk. Maybe, for most users, a simple warning message at boot-up also might do.

What do you think of the supposition that choosing the kernel parameter 'wkg_dev=zram0' still is a valuable alternative? Since, in this case, no password is required for booting, the working partition remains encrypted even if it is mounted, later. And, it also is possible to save data onto additionally inserted drives.

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jan 2020, 14:41    Post subject: SeaMonkey Nightly Builds
Subject description: Compiled: 2020-01-08 Updated:2020-01-13
 

Hi All!

Bill Gianopoulos http://www.wg9s.com/ has compiled some SeaMonkey 2.57 alpha versions for testing.

This one works with Buster-2.2 http://www.wg9s.com/comm-257/seamonkey-2.57a1pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2.

Others are there http://www.wg9s.com/comm-257/.

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Edit: SeaMonkey Nightly Builds have been updated 2020-01-13.
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jan 2020, 15:01    Post subject:
Subject description: Font rendering
 

Good day!
There is one thing, that is very important for me - proper font rendering. It is because there are a lot of explanation pages in EasyOS, and I have to read a lot of text. And my eyes got tired...
The problem is, that RGBA font rendering does not working properly in almost all apps, except urxvt and Chromium.
Here are my font rendering settings.
And here is the result.
As you can see the same font has been rendered differently! In urxvt the RGBA rendering is working properly. The font is smooth and pleasant to eyes, just like in Linux Mint 18. But in Sakura, looks like the RGBA rendering does not working as it should be. Font looks blurry (look at t letter for example), and while reading this font, my eyes got tired... The difference is visible the best, if you look at letters t, r and q.
3. Is it possible to make, that all applications fonts would have proper RGBA rendering, just like in urxvt?

And some new problems, not so important, but still worth to mention.
1. When I launch Input Devices settings, this window always pops out, which is annoying.
2. PET Package Manager sometimes completely freezes and stops responding. In such cases I can not do anything on desktop except hard restart.
3. Please, do not forget about my previous post.
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jan 2020, 21:04    Post subject:  

Continuing with writing documentation, now a how-to on translating EasyOS to any language:

https://bkhome.org/news/202001/how-to-translate-easyos.html

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jan 2020, 21:12    Post subject:  

There were some earlier posts discussing the merits of booting Easy from a USB-stick versus an ISO. The ability to bootup on different PCs was seen as an advantage for the ISO.

There are some things that you might setup for particular hardware, such as run the XorgWizard, or the Multiple Sound Card Wizard. These make changes, for example /etc/X11/xorg.conf, that may be wrong if the USB-stick is booted on a different PC.

However, Easy has "hardware profiling" for Xorg, that automatically takes care of this situation. So for Xorg anyway, you can merrily bootup on any number of different PCs.

This hardware profiling for Xorg needed some fixing for /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, see blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202001/improved-hardware-profiling-for-xorg.html

...see my comment about Puppy.

EDIT:
I posted to this woof-CE thread:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1047605#1047605

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Max Headroom


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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jan 2020, 23:23    Post subject:  

G'day All, I've taken EasyOS 2.2.3 for a Spin, Boots & Runs Fine from the USB Flasher Drive az it's Designed for However I'm having Trouble Setting Up WiFi w/ the Newer Network Manager & Using the Classic interNet Connection Wizard it can't find any Wireless Chip ( which does Work w/ Windows 10 ), @ the moment it's Connecting via Eth0. Any Help w/ this would be Appreciated.

Also I've attempted a Dual Boot Frugal install w/ Windows 10 in the Root of sda2, But Grub4Dos Bootloader config wRote the menu.lst File 2 sda1, so I just get ERROR: Boot partition not found, after finding drives...
Have now dropped into a shell in the initramfs, etc

Here's the Suspect eXcerpt

# Frugal installed Puppy

title EZ-OS64-sda2 Buster 2.2.3 (sda2)
find --set-root uuid () 14D8E391D8E36F82
kernel /vmlinuz rw
initrd /initrd

title EZ-OS64 Buster 2.2.3 (sda2)
find --set-root uuid () 14D8E391D8E36F82
kernel /vmlinuz pdrv=14D8E391D8E36F82 pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
initrd /initrd

Please Help me Fix this, Windows 10 Still Boots OK, Hardware info: 2012 Acer Aspire 5750Z, Legacy BIOS 2 GHz Dual Core Pentium, 4 GB RAMemory, 500 GB SATA

Thanx BarryK 4 your Contribution 2 Saving Our Planet!

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Jan 2020, 11:10    Post subject:  

I have made a start on hard-profiling for sound:

https://bkhome.org/news/202001/hardware-profiling-for-audio.html

Does anyone have a PC with two sound cards? If so, would you mind doing that little test that I posted about on the blog?

If lspci does not list the cards in same order as 'aplay -l', then I will have to figure it out differently.

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Jan 2020, 12:55    Post subject:  

Barry, unless one is running the PC as a professional DAW, it is extremely rare that one has more than one PCI soundcard. The most common reason for having multiple soundcard is with USB audio dongle, and that cannot be captured with lspci.
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Jan 2020, 14:22    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
Barry, unless one is running the PC as a professional DAW, it is extremely rare that one has more than one PCI soundcard.

Some machines will list their HDMI audio and analog audio as separate cards.
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Jan 2020, 14:26    Post subject:  

that is correct my HDMI sound is so listed.
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Jan 2020, 19:27    Post subject:  

ndujoe1 wrote:
that is correct my HDMI sound is so listed.


rcrsn51, ndujoe1,
That's very interesting, thanks for reporting that.

ndujoe1, ould you mind running the following and post the output here?:

Code:
# aplay -l | grep '^card '


EDIT:
Oh yes, this as well please:

Code:
# lspci -d ::0403

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Jan 2020, 19:31    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
Barry, unless one is running the PC as a professional DAW, it is extremely rare that one has more than one PCI soundcard. The most common reason for having multiple soundcard is with USB audio dongle, and that cannot be captured with lspci.


Which raises the question how to detect the type of usb audio device. 'lsusb' maybe, but as far as I know, there would have to be a search for a suitable text string. For example, here is result on my laptop:

Code:
# lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 04f2:b5e0 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 8087:0aa7 Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0000:3825 
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


...some of those strings are not very helpful!

EDIT:
Easy 2.2.3 has the 'usb-devices' utility, that provides a lot more information.
I have ordered one of these:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Audio-Adapter-USB-External-Stereo-Sound-Card-for-3-5mm-Stereo-Headphone/273321212848

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