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Fatdog64 Contributed Packages and SFS
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jan 2020, 09:10    Post subject:  

If you prefer that Fatdog CUPS use Ghostscript as its rasterizer:

1. Download ghostscript_fatdog-9.05-amd64.txz. This is a minimal build with just the key components.
2. Right-click install the package in Fatdog.
3. Restart CUPS with: /etc/init.d/70-cups restart
4. Test Ghostscript with the command: gs -h

Read here for more info about Ghostscript.
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p310don

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2020, 03:56    Post subject:  

Quote:
If you prefer that Fatdog CUPS use Ghostscript as its rasterizer:


Is this (functionally) different to the ghostscript in the repo?
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2020, 06:41    Post subject:  

p310don wrote:
Is this (functionally) different to the ghostscript in the repo?

Quote:
This is a minimal build with just the key components.

Are you asking if it does the same job of rasterizing? The only way to answer that is by empirical testing.

But if I was not satisfied with it, I never would have posted it.

Waiting for your own test results.
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p310don

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2020, 07:31    Post subject:  

Quote:
Are you asking if it does the same job of rasterizing? The only way to answer that is by empirical testing.


I'm happy to test, but not sure what I'm testing, nor how to.

I typed in your command
Code:
gs -h
in my slightly older version of fatdog which has repo ghostscript installed. It gives me lots of words letters and numbers that I don't have any idea what they mean. It does say it is ghostscript version 9.23 - slightly newer (incremental difference)

I did a virgin install of fatdog, installed your ghostscript & the samsung ULD printer driver and it works perfectly. Although no differently to repo gs.

Doing another virgin install of fatdog, with samsung ULD installed, but no gs, it still prints. This is new for this version of FD. I have only printed the test page, but the text at the bottom of the page is bolder, maybe slightly larger. The GS printing is finer, as in thinner font.
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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2020, 07:41    Post subject:  

p310don wrote:
I did a virgin install of fatdog, installed your ghostscript & the samsung ULD printer driver and it works perfectly. Although no differently to repo gs.

I am not going to second-guess Fatdog's decision to omit ghostscript from its ISO, but I suspect that it has to do with size considerations. My package is a fraction of the size. But if that's not an issue for you, get the full package.

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Doing another virgin install of fatdog, with samsung ULD installed, but no gs, it still prints.

That's because it is using the alternate rasterizer from poppler. You will need more testing to decide if you are satisfied with the quality.
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p310don

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2020, 08:21    Post subject:  

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My package is a fraction of the size. But if that's not an issue for you, get the full package.


TBH, size doesn't matter to me personally, but I do understand the consideration.

If your package achieves the exact same result, at approx 1/3 the size, that's gotta be good.

So going back to my original question to you rcrsn51, is it functionally different to repo ghostscript? It seems the answer is no, but it is physically different (smaller).
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2020, 08:24    Post subject:  

Here is something to test. Do a clean install of the new Fatdog. Get full ghostscript from the repo. Print a test page.

Which does it look like? The ghostscript version or the poppler version?
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p310don

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2020, 09:16    Post subject:  

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Do a clean install of the new Fatdog. Get full ghostscript from the repo. Print a test page.

Which does it look like? The ghostscript version or the poppler version?


The repo version of ghostscript, and the no ghostscript version look the same. Your ghostscript looks different.
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2020, 09:23    Post subject:  

p310don wrote:
The repo version of ghostscript, and the no ghostscript version look the same. Your ghostscript looks different.

So even though you installed full ghostscript, which rasterizer appears to be in use?
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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2020, 10:44    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
p310don wrote:
The repo version of ghostscript, and the no ghostscript version look the same. Your ghostscript looks different.

So even though you installed full ghostscript, which rasterizer appears to be in use?

In 810-beta and older 800s, the default rasteriser is ghostscript. Which is why every single driver requires ghostscript to be installed or they don't work.

On 810 final, we made a decision to switch the default rasteriser to poppler. So for many built-in drivers, ghostscript isn't needed anymore. Installing ghostscript from the repo does not change this fact. Seeing that you get identical output, you'd probably use the same default poppler rasteriser instead of ghostscript.

So if you want to use ghostscript as the rasteriser, in addition to installing to to the repo, you need to edit one file: /usr/share/cups/mime/cupsfilters-poppler.convs. This is explained here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/printing.html, at the bottom of the page.

On the other hand, if you use rcrsn51's package, you don't need this since the same effect is achieved using different means (it comes with cupsfilters-ghostscript.convs which specifies higher priority for ghostscript than for poppler).

So for proper comparison, when using the repo ghostscript, you need to edit that file before printing a test page. Only then the comparison becomes apple-to-apple.

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan 2020, 10:58    Post subject:  

As I said to Don in a PM, CUPS test pages are irrelevant. The real test comes from printing everyday documents. Do you prefer the output from one rasterizer over the other? Is there any real difference?

Something else to consider: when the printer vendors like HP develop their Linux drivers, they expect that the input stream is coming from Ghostscript. That's because they will test their driver against a mainstream distro that uses Ghostscript.

So if you are concerned about compatibility, your best bet is to use Ghostscript yourself.
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Feb 2020, 12:31    Post subject: Compression 2.0 - Utility program  

Compression 2.0 - Utility program
Compression of a folder .
See below

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Feb 2020, 12:49    Post subject: pupmd5sum-1.8 for fatdog64  

pupmd5sum-1.8-noarch.txz
Available:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1s4cmGHjX-30Q5z-TeKoo8AGZaprPNyGK
Size : 7k

Instructions: Right click on file and choose pupmd5sum
md5sum is first to be calculated but other check sums are available.
Save the result as a text file.
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PostPosted: Thu 13 Feb 2020, 15:44    Post subject:  

see next post..
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Feb 2020, 13:28    Post subject: compression-2.2 available  

compression-2.2 available
rar compresion option to preserve links
needs rar installed from fatdog64 repository

https://drive.google.com/open?id=19vMm0vWUPXyY3sZ5uS1j5VzPkxX7s8tu
Available:
compression-2.2-noarch.txz

Size: 19k
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