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is there bionicpup64 with a later kernel? (SOLVED)
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Sat 22 Feb 2020, 22:25    Post subject:  

The Nvidia drivers that are in Quickpet->Drivers are compiled for the original kernel that comes in Bionicpup64 8.0
The Nvidia driver you were using is also compiled for that kernel.

You changed the kernel, so those drivers will not work for the new kernel.
Graphics drivers have to be compiled for the specific kernel they are going to be used with.

You have a different kernel, so you are going to have to compile a driver from a Nvidia driver run package or find a driver that has been compiled for the new kernel you are using.

Here is how to use the Nvidia driver run package from Nvidia to compile and install a driver.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=110611

The Bionicpup64 8.0 devx sfs will work to give the needed programs for compiling.

If you got the new kernel from rockedge's repository.
I see the kernel sources sfs is also there.
Get the one that exactly matches the kernel you are now using.

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Feb 2020, 21:08    Post subject: done!  

bigpup wrote:
The Nvidia drivers that are in Quickpet->Drivers are compiled for the original kernel that comes in Bionicpup64 8.0
The Nvidia driver you where using is also compiled for that kernel.

You changed the kernel, so those drivers will not work for the new kernel.
Graphics drivers have to be compiled for the specific kernel they are going to be used with.

You have a different kernel, so you are going to have to compile a driver from a Nvidia driver run package or find a driver that has been compiled for the new kernel you are using.

Here is how to use the Nvidia driver run package from Nvidia to compile and install a driver.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=110611

The Bionicpup64 8.0 devx sfs will work to give the needed programs for compiling.

If you got the new kernel from rockedge's repository.
I see the kernel sources sfs is also there.
Get the one that exactly matches the kernel you are now using.


thanks for all the help on this forum, particularly clear instruction on nvidia driver install by bigpup. I was able to install a recent kernel and the latest nvidia driver.
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Feb 2020, 21:26    Post subject:  

Keep us updated on how the kernel is working for Bionicpup64 8.0.
Any problems you may have.
Maybe find that something is working better.

Probably the next latest new version of Puppy is going to need to go to using a 5 series kernel or maybe offering one to change to.

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Feb 2020, 12:43    Post subject:  

good to see the kernel change and compile of the new Nvidia driver is successful

I will be compiling some additional 5x series kernels for Puppy Linux systems requiring real time kernels and some that are just the latest greatest for testing and newer hardware. These will eventually be available at https://rockedge.org/kernels
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Feb 2020, 15:14    Post subject:  

rockedge wrote:
good to see the kernel change and compile of the new Nvidia driver is successful

I will be compiling some additional 5x series kernels for Puppy Linux systems requiring real time kernels and some that are just the latest greatest for testing and newer hardware. These will eventually be available at https://rockedge.org/kernels


I got your site bookmarked. I was not able to install 5.3.18 but OK with 5.3.13. Unfortunately my internal SD reader still is not detected. On xenialpup64 kernel 4.9.58 can... I ended up installing both since I use SD cards a lot for picture hobby.

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Feb 2020, 15:16    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Keep us updated on how the kernel is working for Bionicpup64 8.0.
Any problems you may have.
Maybe find that something is working better.
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see my comments below, other than still not detecting my internal SD card, it seems to work well.

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Feb 2020, 12:05    Post subject:  

all depends on the hardware, I have Dell laptop with ssd card reader that only series 3x and 4x kernels will "see"...so I run Bionic or Xenial or Tahr with one of those "older" kernels on that machine.
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PostPosted: Tue 25 Feb 2020, 16:11    Post subject:  

rockedge wrote:
all depends on the hardware, I have Dell laptop with ssd card reader that only series 3x and 4x kernels will "see"...so I run Bionic or Xenial or Tahr with one of those "older" kernels on that machine.


thanks for all the help.

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Mar 2020, 05:38    Post subject:  

rockedge,

There is a lot of control over what a kernel can do and hardware it will support, when the kernel is compiled.

How the kernel is configured is very important.

The kernel has a DOTconfig file that sets what is active or not active and how it is activated.
All these settings can be set when kernel is compiled.

ozsouth recently compiled a kernel for me that activated the sound device in my Chromebook.
No other normal Puppy version kernel was configured to activate it.
ozsouth seems to understand this kernel configuring.
I am sure he could help you.

Example DOTconfig
Had to add .tar to name so it would post.
DOTconfig-4.14.161-070120.tar
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Mar 2020, 12:49    Post subject:  

Thanks bigpup,

I do have quite a few DOT config files I've generated for all types of kernels

the real time kernels I make need about 200 patches and a deep dive into the kernel configuration to make one.

I will check out what you've sent along
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