Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

jonyo · Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2727

Wish I'da known that at the time Razz

..every little bit helps thx. Afaik though, after the 5 second thing (at least live CD) the upgrade'd begin & dunno what might happen by hittin ctrl-p at that point.

iscraigh · Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Posts: 276

Okay I am going to add to this

Same onboard sound chip, weird thing is I can play .mp3 files and .ogg files but not .wav or say youtube videos. .avi movies work ok.

any ideas?

Craig

Béèm · Posted: Mon 28 May 2007, 16:13 Post subject:

BrianE · Joined: 26 May 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Canada

Thanks for everyone's replies.

BrianE · Joined: 26 May 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Canada

Hmm.... (or uh-oh?)

Looking at the Ubuntuforums page again I noticed that it suggested doing a lspci -v and that I should see a sound device listed.

I looked at the output of that command I do not see anything that I can identify as a sound device listed. It gives a lot of information like IRQs, memory addresses, and some other info, but unless I really don't know what I'm looking for I don't see anything related to the sound system...

The forum page says that this may be because it is not enabled in BIOS (it is), or the PCI card isn't installed/seated.... I hope this doesn't mean I have a hardware failure and the sound chip is fried! Shocked

BrianE · Joined: 26 May 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Canada

Something is very strange.

Doing some checking, it seems that the VIA VT8237 southbridge includes audio functionality, but there is an actual Realtek ALC655 chip on my motherboard, and I am pretty sure that is what it uses.

I wonder if things are wonky because a normal K8V-MX motherboard uses an ADI sound chip but my OEM (/S) model uses the Realtek chip.... why do I not see any Realtek drivers listed on the ALSA website or in the file modules.pcimap? Confused

I went to Realtek's website and downloaded a driver(?) file named realtek-linux-audiopack-4.05f.tar.bz2 (Version 4.05f.... I assumed this was a better idea than the slightly newer one written for 2.2/2.4 kernel?) Got it here btw. But I want to know if I'm barking up the right or wrong tree here before I try to deal with this thing called *.tar.bz2 now.... Shocked

(Is there a more generic existing driver I could try first?)

Thanks.

EDIT: Okay, maybe the two aren't separate after all. Alsamixer calls the VT8237 the "card" and the ALC655 the "chip"... there is talk like this also elsewhere like on the ALSA wiki.

I vaguely recall having to install Realtek drivers to get sound working when I was using this mb with Win XP, so could it be that I need to do the same here?

BrianE · Joined: 26 May 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Canada

I tried another distro on this machine (PCLOS) and I couldn't get it to work either....

Am I looking at a hardware problem?

GuestToo · Puppy Master Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078

GuestToo · Puppy Master Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078

it looks like the drivers are installed, and aplay is playing the 2barks.wav file ... i'm not sure why you do not hear the sound

BrianE · Joined: 26 May 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Canada

Well I give up... assuming I'm not overlooking anything or there isn't something wrong with ALSA (I really doubt it, but who knows...), then I'm looking at the unlikely possibility that the onboard sound is damaged somehow.

I finally got sound to work with Puppy - AFTER I installed an old Creative Audigy card I got my hands on. Hardly the solution I was after and even this obsolete card is overkill, but at least installing it was a breeze. I had sound working in about 30 seconds!

It's strange though, because everything else on the MB seems to be working fine.... pretty selective, whatever messed up the o/b sound. Confused

Anyway, thank you for everyone's help in trying to resolve this. Cool

iscraigh · Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Posts: 276

I don't think it is your mb I have the same sound chip and no success under puppy although it has worked intermittantly. Under Ubuntu it works fine, If you really want to test it use the bootable ubuntu or knoppix disk and see it it works.

Craig

kleung21 · Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 28 Location: Toronto, Ontario

I cannot claim to have come up with this myself.

Some 18yo on his blog discussed this regarding the MX3230 Gateway laptop.

Seems like it's an issue with the Via sound chip (and yes, it runs a realtek chip for some reason).

Anyways, you have to go into ALSAMIXER and disable the external amplifier option.

don't just turn it down, make sure you switch it off (tab over the EXT amp and hit the <period> key.

Hope that helps. I've managed to get wave files playing now but still can't hear Youtube.

Kevin

battleshooter · Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 1006 Location: Australia

sindi · Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 186

1GHz DFI computer with onboard via 82xx sound. Sound setup worked,
then when I tried to play 2barks.wav got one bark, a bit of silence,
another bark, then did not work again. Disabled onboard sound.
Put in an ISA Vibra 16 and chose legacy sb16, and that worked, once
but not again. Took it out, tried a Creative SB16 which did not work,
and a Crystal ISA which did not work, and a PCI Ensoniq 1371 which produced
only loud static though it worked in another computer with the same
version of Puppy (2.6.21.17 kernel, 4.3.1). lsmod revealed that the
drivers for the VIA chip were still being loaded along with Ensoniq,
and the Crystal driver was NOT being loaded. Did not look for sb16.
Removed all the cards, left onboard sound disabled, rebooted
and the onboard sound worked, several boots in a row.

Onboard sound is still disabled - puppy must ignore that.
Or maybe it needed to be disabled to work?

Could someone add instructions to Setup that you don't need to run it
for sound unless your card is not automatically detected? Maybe running
it messed things up.