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Wanna run puppy on linux and Windos?

#1 Post by azlanar »

Well, maybe somebody already post about this? I dunno, just wanna share my puppy with you... lol...



PUPPY ON LINUX
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1. Go download this = http://www.freeveda.org/linux/puppy/PupWinQE.htm , and save it into your thumbdrive. Dont forget to unzip the file PupWinQE.zip
2. Download the latest puppy iso and save it into your thumbdrive.
3. Go download qemu at http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/download.html , and install it in your linux.
3. Copy the following shell script, and save it into your thumbdrive. You can name it as 1GB-RAM-Puppy.sh if you want:
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#!/bin/bash
# written by azlanar, http://benci.tapi.rindu.net
# Purpose: testing puppy
umount /dev/shm
echo "mount -t tmpfs -o size=2048M none /dev/shm";
mount -t tmpfs -o size=2048M none /dev/shm
df -h
echo "Starting puppy now...";
qemu -L . -m 1024 -cdrom puppy-2.16.1-seamonkey-fulldrivers.iso -localtime -boot d puppy.qcow -hda /dev/sda1
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4. Chmod the above script to 755, eg chmod 755 1GB-RAM-Puppy.sh
5. Execute the above script. eg "./1GB-RAM-Puppy.sh"
6. Hey, you love that puppy huh?




PUPPY ON WINDODS
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1. Go to your thumbdrive.
2. read the documentation at http://www.freeveda.org/linux/puppy/PupWinQE.htm hehee
3. If you wanna add more RAM, edit the Puppy.bat
The original lines in Puppy.bat is:
qemu -L . -m 256 -cdrom puppy-2.16.1-seamonkey-fulldrivers.iso -localtime -hda puppy.qcow -boot d -hdb \\.\PhysicalDrive0

You can change it to ... say:
qemu -L . -m 1024 -cdrom puppy-2.16.1-seamonkey-fulldrivers.iso -localtime -hda puppy.qcow -boot d -hdb \\.\PhysicalDrive0

Means that you assigned 1 GB RAM .



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#2 Post by BarryK »

Thanks for documenting those steps!

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#3 Post by Béèm »

It would be nice if these steps were brought to a common place where people could consult tips and tricks of this kind.
I thinl, that is what is needed to have an efficient support for Puppy.
Just my 0.02€

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#4 Post by azlanar »

BarryK wrote:Thanks for documenting those steps!
ur welcome Barry....


...... continue................. wanna run Puppy on Puppy?

Well,
1. go download allinoneqemu_linux from = http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/di ... qemu_linux , you may want to read section 8.2 at http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/index.html and the documentation on how this allinoneqemu_linux is created at http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/eee/index.html . Download allinoneqemu_linux and save it into your thumbdrive . I ask you to download this file, coz i know u guys are lazy to compile qemu... hehee....

2. Copy the following script into your thumbdrive, save it as whatever name (eg: 1024-RAM-PP.sh ), dont forget to chmod 755 ./1024-RAM-PP.sh
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#!/bin/bash
#written by azlanar, http://benci.tapi.rindu.net
#Purpose: launcing puppy on puppy
mkdir -p /shm
umount /shm
echo "mount -t tmpfs -o size=2048M none /shm";
mount -t tmpfs -o size=2048M none /shm
df -h
echo "Starting Puppy on Puppy now...";
./allinoneqemu_linux -L . -m 1024 -cdrom puppy-2.16.1-seamonkey-fulldrivers.iso -localtime -boot d
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3. Now insert your thumdrive to the PC that runs Puppy Linux, mount the thumdrive (usually mounted at /mnt/sda1 ) . So using your console, type "cd /mnt/sda1" , and then ... type your script ,"./1024-RAM-PP.sh" to launch your puppy...

4. Now you have another virtual PC runs on your puppy. You can test whatever you wanna test. What are you going to test? pls inform me/share with me ok... hehee...



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#5 Post by Gekko »

I'm thinking of setting up a website called puppyfaq or puppytips. Bah, screw thinking. I'll set up puppyfaq.bbqsrc.org in about 2 months (maybe sooner) when I get a new webhost. And I wrote an entire tutorial about how to set up a testing environment, with the article based around puppy: http://bbqsrc.org/?q=node/20

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#6 Post by Lobster »

Puppy Raspup 8.2Final 8)
Puppy Links Page http://www.smokey01.com/bruceb/puppy.html :D

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#7 Post by Béèm »

A very good idea Gekko and I won't deter you from doing so, but I have a side note to whomever may feel concerned.

Having been in product management and having followed now quite some time I only can conclude that Puppy isn't managed at all as a product.

Sure enough a lot of people contribute to the success of Puppy starting with Barry and the other developers and other volunteers helping to find answers in this forum. (not to forget Murga in this aspect)

But information is scattered all over places altho Barry's blog starts to be very structured now. Often I know I have read about a solution but the search engine seldom points me rapidly to the post in question and people are confronted to have to read numerous posts. In that aspect the idea of Gekko is welcome.

Another question, how doe it come that the initiative (I think of Gekko) to have a bug reporting system isn't promoted/used here?

I see several attempts for websites probably started because people didn't find what they wanted at the 'official' website(s)

I found Wiki has some broken links, another detering factor.

Chasing to find a package has become a sport as well, as one has to browse the different places (if known) where packages are located.
It would be helpfull to have a 'search engine' for it. Now I know MU has done work in this area, but I have lost track and have to chase now ware the post is and then where the download url. I think such a facility should be mandatory in the base iso of Puppy. (and to be complete on all alternative iso's)

Then there is the multi-lingual aspect. Fortunately sub-groups are formed here but what about documentation.

My post could be considered as a rant, unless I offered some kind of solution, whether it is followed or not.

I am working also as a translator for a newsreader product to translate from French to English and/or Dutch. The website structure is a disaster as well and it has been decided that a product to develop a structured content website would be used. It is called Joomla (http://www.joomla.com) This product provides multi-lingual support. A visitor just pushes on the flag of his language and he has the pages in his language. It is the job of the translators to translate as soon as the master page is out (in this case in French), translate and publish. So there can be a time lag between the original page and the translated one. This product doesn't contain a forum as far as I know.

In another post I offered already to do translation work, if needed, but only if the environment is structured.

If you came this far :wink: I hope you had a good reading.
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#8 Post by Gekko »

My goal is to structure the community if you haven't noticed :P

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#9 Post by Béèm »

I did notice Gekko and I support it, in case you had doughts. :wink:
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#10 Post by klu9 »

on the PupWinQE page it says:
Need to share files with Windows?
...
Get the Linux file-system utility for Windows
at the Explore2fs Home Page at chrysocome.net/explore2fs
does that mean the Explore2fs browser, or the same author's kernel driver EXT2IFS to access ext2 ext3?

The author says that kernel driver is out-of-date/unsafe and that there are better ones. But my google-fu is too poor to find these better ones.

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#11 Post by JaDy »

klu9 wrote:on the PupWinQE page it says:
Need to share files with Windows?
...
Get the Linux file-system utility for Windows
at the Explore2fs Home Page at chrysocome.net/explore2fs
does that mean the Explore2fs browser, or the same author's kernel driver EXT2IFS to access ext2 ext3?

The author says that kernel driver is out-of-date/unsafe and that there are better ones. But my google-fu is too poor to find these better ones.
I'm the keeper at freeVEDA.org. Yes, I'm referring to the Explore2fs browser. Didn't realize it's called a "browser" and their web page (http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs) refers to it as "Explore2fs is a GUI explorer tool for accessing ext2 and ext3 filesystems." I've used it on my Win98 and WinXP systems but only for looking, never tried writing with it. Still, from Puppy, I just use Puppy to view and edit files in Windows folders. Furthermore, on WinXP with PupWinQE, although my web page says writing doesn't work, I've found it does work but a WinXP reboot is sometimes needed to see the changes in WinXP. Note that there is a QEMU caution about building new folders using Puppy on WinXP partitions.
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#12 Post by klu9 »

thanks for the response.

BTW if anyone's interested, 2 things I've "discovered" re the method on that page to run Puppy under MS Windows.

1. the desktop shortcut for Puppy just gives me an error, but double clicking the puppy.bat starts it up just fine.

2. PupWinQE also works with Hacao & Grafpup (maybe that's blindingly obvious to you experts but it was a pleasant surprise for me!).
I've got three folders, one with the Pup ISO, 1 w/ Hacao ISO, 1 w/ Grafpup Opera ISO. I unzipped PupWinQE.zip into each of them, edited the Puppy.bat to have the name of each particular ISO, and then just double-click the bat to run that OS.

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#13 Post by jdumont »

what do I format my thumbdrive to? ntfs? ext2, ext3 ? thanks

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