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Notecase outliner
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 06:54    Post_subject:  Notecase outliner  

This will be in the next Puppy, as announced on my blog:
http://www.puppylinux.com/news/comments.php?y=07&m=07&entry=entry070705-010833

Notecase is a notes organiser, an outliner, and it's marvelous. What I've been wanting for ages, but all other outliners fell short -- rich text format, search, images, internal and external hyperlinks -- the works. It also uses GTK2. For anyone who's keen to try it before it appears in the next Puppy, I've uploaded it to ibiblio:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-2/

Notecase homepage:
http://notecase.sourceforge.net/

Note, I evaluated Notecase sometime ago, and thought it was so-so. It was only in January this year that great stuff like WYSIWYG RTF, image iinsertion and a few other things were added.

Click on Help menu and the help is an actual Notecase document. Note, the help document is at /usr/share/doc/notecase/help.ncd, but you don't need to know that to bring up the help.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 13:37    Post_subject: Notecase looks great
Sub_title: Please include next Puppy release
 

Dear Barry,

I just tried out Notecase and you are right - I have tried a number of hierarchic notepads, including the old notecase, and find this one to be the best of all. I only wish I could migrate my kjots stuff painlessly and not by hand.

With thanks and kind regards,
vovchik
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2007, 20:29    Post_subject:  

I see in the features list that it can do this:

# support for importing gjots2 document format (requires .gjots2 extension on document file)
# support for importing StickyNotes document format (requires .xml extension on document file)
# support for importing MM/LX Mindmap/Outline document format
# support for reading/writing NoteCenter unencrpyted format

So, I wonder how different gjots2 format is from kjots? Maybe kjots can export to gjots, then you can import to ncd Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jul 2007, 01:57    Post_subject:  

Thanks for pointing this out - I've been looking for tools exactly like this ! And it runs on Windows too - so I can have it both at work (=doze) and at home (=puppy) !!!
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jul 2007, 04:32    Post_subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
Thanks for pointing this out - I've been looking for tools exactly like this ! And it runs on Windows too - so I can have it both at work (=doze) and at home (=puppy) !!!

Yes, I was thinking how to manage it for keeping my Puppy-project notes (that are very copious). At present I write into exercise books, but I'm always wasting time hunting back through them trying to find something I wrote a year or so ago.
But, if I have the Notecase .ncd file on a flash drive, I just plug it in and open it, on any PC, yes, even Windows!
..hey, I might go right now and buy another pen drive! Very Happy
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rabadi

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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jul 2007, 08:19    Post_subject:  

Does it support .odf (or at least .odt) file?
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Dr. Dzivite

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Jul 2007, 18:54    Post_subject:  

Sorry, for my intermingle here.
Just a small 'peep' from aside - there is a little bit different and handy NotePad else - ZuluPad at http://www.gersic.com/zulupad/index.html - as a rapidly evolving eventual alternative, may be ...
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Béèm


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Jul 2007, 19:19    Post_subject:  

rabadi wrote:
Does it support .odf (or at least .odt) file?
I have been looking at the Windows version and odf/odt aren't mentioned in the supported file formats.
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Jul 2007, 21:11    Post_subject:  

The 'file' utility identifies the native format of a Notecase document as SGML:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGML

which is an ISO standard and is very similar to HTML and XML. Notecase can export to HTML and XML.
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jul 2007, 08:56    Post_subject:  

While we're at it, I would like to highlight a tool I have been using for a year - TiddlyWiki http://www.tiddlywiki.com/ as a possible replacement for DidiWiki. It's a wiki, similar to Didiwiki, however this is a server-less (!) wiki (no http server), using only web browser. It also looks nicer (and seems easier to customise).

The author says it works with IE and Firefox, however I have done a preeliminary test with Seamonkey 1.0.8 that comes with 2.15CE, it seems to work as well. And yes, saving the content is supported (otherwise it's not much of a wiki) - save button is available. The "empty" wiki is 267kb (gzip compressed is around 67kb).

If you need to share it with others, just upload it to any webserver - no special server side scripting is necessary.

However, since it runs on javascript instead of C, performance on lesser endowed computer may be irritating.

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jul 2007, 19:06    Post_subject:  

I tried a bit under Windows.
One handicap is that I can't save nor retrieve to/from networked drives, only from local ones.

Don't know about Linux.

But I had in mind to be able to update, f.e. through samba, a Notecase outliner being on my other machine (which could be Windows).

Otherwise looks interesting.

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 09:11    Post_subject:  

If You would let me say

- TiddlyWiki requires 'JavaScript' and 'Allow blocked content' to function properly
- there are some sources for server-side TiddlyWiki too - at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiddlyWiki
- ZuluPad is more simple, flexible and additionally
--- like as online located *.eve files can be open if 'C:\Program Files\eve.exe'
--- the online located *.zulu files can be open if 'C:\Program Files\zulupad.exe'

ZuluPad works nice, indeed.
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 09:33    Post_subject:  

Quote:

ZuluPad is the only cross-platform personal wiki. Currently it will run on Windows and OS X.


hey Dr. Dzivite,

when are you going to try and bring your hospital over to puppy linux?
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 10:22    Post_subject:  

PuppyLinux and some other things else are great at this forum. No doubt. And people, seems, too ...
It would be worth to start PuppyLinux once, of course. Hopefully, the time will come.
Meantime - good luck with further this Your so nice work.
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PostPosted: Mon 20 Aug 2007, 00:58    Post_subject:  

Barry,

Is there anything special for compiling Notecase? I'm trying to compile the latest version - 1.6.1, as it seems to be quite a number of bug fixes there (especially in the rich text handling portion). But I'm stuck at it looking for gnome-vfs-2 ... which isn't in Puppy.

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