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Flash
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Sep 2005, 02:27    Post subject:  

ForumProjectOrganization

EarlSmith, your idea of using the search engine as a way of organizing project posts is pretty neat. How about if you run the keywords together into a CamelCase word, as I did above? I don't know what the forum search engine's rules are, but it seems to me that any search engine would always find a single word quicker and more efficiently than a string of several words - unless you remember to tell it to be literal and only look for perfect matches. Plus a CamelCase word would be compatible with the Wiki, for whatever use that might turn out to be.

Or you could use underlines instead of spaces: Forum_Project_Organization.
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Mathiasdm

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Sep 2005, 06:06    Post subject:  

Just an idea... Perhaps this php mod could be installed: http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=265040

It allows for subforums to be created (as seen on this page: http://ptifo.clanmckeen.com/ ).

I'd choose for a different sectioning of the 'Advanced' forums.
-Puppy package development
With subsections: General, GUI, configuration software
-Completed Puppy Packages (one topic per package, only finished packages allowed)
-Programming
With subsections: Simple programming (perhaps with links to programming guides), Advanced programming
-Cutting Edge software
With subsections: General, Live-CD
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Sep 2005, 09:41    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
ForumProjectOrganization
EarlSmith, your idea of using the search engine as a way of organizing project posts is pretty neat. How about if you run the keywords together into a CamelCase word, as I did above? I don't know what the forum search engine's rules are, but it seems to me that any search engine would always find a single word quicker and more efficiently than a string of several words - unless you remember to tell it to be literal and only look for perfect matches. Plus a CamelCase word would be compatible with the Wiki, for whatever use that might turn out to be.
Or you could use underlines instead of spaces: Forum_Project_Organization.

I have put the idea HERE
See if it's what you want Smile

EarlSmith, I think you can edit it the way like you mentioned, and use CamelCase keywords as others suggested:

Projects under Discussion

Business Accounting - BusAcct
Home Accounting - HomeAcct
OpenOffice - OpenOffice
etc....

What do you guys think?
ps.searching for ForumProjectOrganization and Forum_Project_Organization doesn't work (returns nothing), perhaps the words contain too many letters? Words like 'WikiWord' work though...

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EarlSmith

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Sep 2005, 18:25    Post subject:  

I have had a problem with the search feature before. I think it only successfully does searches on works of 6 letters or less. In longer words, it returns nothing.
Words like Forum_project....I think it is able to find Forum and skip the rest of it.
Or it sometimes works on longer words like Accounting but other times it does not work!

May someone can check it out and figure out what is going on.
If it would search longer words it would be great with me to CamelCase the key
words.

I think this would make organization of projects in this way easy to maintain and still maintain the simplicity of the structure of the forum.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Sep 2005, 18:31    Post subject:  

Also, another point. I know you can select to see the newest post first in the list, but how do you make it stick. It seems to be oldest first as default.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Sep 2005, 19:13    Post subject:  

EarlSmith wrote:
Also, another point. I know you can select to see the newest post first in the list, but how do you make it stick. It seems to be oldest first as default.

My guess is only JohnM can change that, if it can be changed at all, and the change would apply to everyone in the forum, all the time.
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep 2005, 09:09    Post subject:  

EarlSmith wrote:
I have had a problem with the search feature before. I think it only successfully does searches on works of 6 letters or less. In longer words, it returns nothing.
Words like Forum_project....I think it is able to find Forum and skip the rest of it.
Or it sometimes works on longer words like Accounting but other times it does not work!

May someone can check it out and figure out what is going on.
If it would search longer words it would be great with me to CamelCase the key
words.


Here seems to have the solution:
http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1605571#1605571

"...you can't search for words of two or less letters as the default settings in the code for indexing words from posts is larger than 3, and less than 20 (better expressed as 3 <= x <= 20 )"
So words with three to twenty letters should be no problem
Smile

E.g, ForumOrganiztion
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep 2005, 09:13    Post subject:  

me above Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep 2005, 11:59    Post subject:  

Thanks Puppian, it seems to work now, maybe I was just confused.

On the subject of organization, I think the first line of the posts should still contain the keyword. Instead of a word like "Accounting" that may be used in other posts, use as an example, "Paccounting" for Project Accounting. This way when you use the word Paccounting or Ptcl, you can search and have returned only the posts that involve work on the project. Then it would be easy to make subprojects like Paccountinghome or Paccountingbuss. Then if you want to see all the projects in Paccounting just search on " Paccounting* ".
( * for wildcard).
If anyone has other suggestions please tell me, otherwise in the next few days I will start a new topic to try and explain everything we have discussed here.
We have discussed a lot of good ideas and reasons for doing things this way or that and I think we are ready to issue a report.
If anyone else wants to do this let me know.
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep 2005, 15:48    Post subject:  

EarlSmith wrote:
....On the subject of organization, ....
We have discussed a lot of good ideas and reasons for doing things this way or that and I think we are ready to issue a report.
If anyone else wants to do this let me know.

Nope, you write real good. Smile Much better than me anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Sep 2005, 12:59    Post subject:  

Mathiasdm wrote:
Just an idea... Perhaps this php mod could be installed: http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=265040

It allows for subforums to be created (as seen on this page: http://ptifo.clanmckeen.com/ ).

I'd choose for a different sectioning of the 'Advanced' forums.
-Puppy package development
With subsections: General, GUI, configuration software
-Completed Puppy Packages (one topic per package, only finished packages allowed)
-Programming
With subsections: Simple programming (perhaps with links to programming guides), Advanced programming
-Cutting Edge software
With subsections: General, Live-CD

Any support for an idea like this? Embarassed
Even if it's just partially. I'd love a 'programming' forum.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Sep 2005, 20:36    Post subject: Welcome  

Welcome to the kennels, Earl (that's Lobster's line). Why don't you visit this?

Mathias, John M (the owner) already noted suggestions about the forum. He must have seen this thread, too, or you can PM him.
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