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nap44

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2007, 00:33    Post_subject:  How to install Canon MP150 printer?  

Hi All,
I'm trying to install my Canon MP150 printer.

I'm so totally confused now, after reading all I can find on the forums, I don't know what to do next. Sad

I click on Add printer which takes me to the Cups page. There I'm presented by a driver ver rc2 and two files.
cups-rc2-source.tar.bz2 and the same file with extension .tar.gz

Which one do I use? Or am I in the wrong place entirely. Where do I download it to and then what do I do.

Printing ability is usually the first thing I try to set up, as you can then print out help pages when trying to solve any problems, but this seems to be the most difficult thing to do in Linux when it should be the simplest, IMHO.

I know I need a PPD file but how do I get it and then what.

If anyone could spare a little time to write elementary steps needed to install the printer, it would be very much appreciated. I know it's probably easy when you have done it a few times, but I can't even get past first base. Crying or Very sad

Sorry for the long winded dialogue but I'm really very frustrated now.

Thanks in advance,
Rick
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2007, 01:16    Post_subject:  

our printing page has been updated but is not as easy as could be
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Printing

the manual only has this:
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This is an easy one to get up and running. Just run "Menu | Setup | Printer Wizard" and the directions there should be sufficient to get most printers working. If your printer is not on the list that comes up try one that is similar for example if you have an superjet 23e try the superjet 23 or superjet 23f.

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2007, 04:03    Post_subject:  

Hi Lobster,
Thanks for your reply, but I'm afraid I'm now even more confused.

I've used the Cups Add Printer wizard as you suggest which asks me "Do you want to add a new printer", to which I answer Yes.

This then opens the Cups page and among the choices are "Manage Printers" or "Download the current Cups software".

I'm confused here for a start as I thought the Cups software was already installed as part of the Puppy linux. Maybe I'm wrong though.

If I select "manage printers", I'm led through a setup procedure to identify my printer and am presented with a list of printers.

My printer is not listed, so I back out of the setup and go back to the choice of "Download the current Cups software". There I get presented with the option of downloading 2 files. I don't know which one to pick, if indeed I even need these files if Cups is already installed as part of Puppy.

So that's where I'm at. I'm pretty sure I need a PPD file for my printer or the Guttenprint driver but I lost at this point.

Can you offer any further clarification.

Thanks again,
Rick



Lobster wrote:
our printing page has been updated but is not as easy as could be
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Printing

the manual only has this:
Quote:

This is an easy one to get up and running. Just run "Menu | Setup | Printer Wizard" and the directions there should be sufficient to get most printers working. If your printer is not on the list that comes up try one that is similar for example if you have an superjet 23e try the superjet 23 or superjet 23f.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2007, 04:34    Post_subject:  

which version of puppy are you using? (as the latest pup2.17 includes cups).

normally, if your printer isn't included in the list for the printer wizard, and a search of the forum for someone outlining getting your printer to work fails, the next place to look is:

http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi

your printer is listed here:

http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_MP150

however no .ppd file has been produced yet, but they recommend gutenprint, which apparently has a "multipass mp150" driver. this is apparently included in ubuntu, but i'm not sure if it's included in the latest puppy gutenprint.

http://www.canon-asia.com/ has a linux driver for the mp160, but not the mp150...i don't know whether the same driver would work for the mp150?

or you could try turboprint, http://www.turboprint.de/english.html , which has a driver for your printer. try downloading & installing the free driver to see if it works. (if your lucky it might print out without putting the turboprint logo all through your printout, but if it does, then you might consider forking out to buy a license.)

lastly, for scanning, you can download the sane backends & xsane using the puppy package manager, (listed in the menu), and see if they work with your multifunction printer. ( after you've installed them you need to open /etc/sane.d/dll.conf and make sure
pixma is uncommented. (i.e. remove # in front of pixma)

however, if sane doesn't work for you, the commandline pixma scanner driver, on the page below, is reported to work for mp150:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=32470622&t=19153
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2007, 05:04    Post_subject:  

you can also check the openprinting canon forum:

http://forums.openprinting.org/list.php?25
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nap44

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2007, 06:42    Post_subject:  

Hi Muggins,
Thanks for your comprehensive reply. I've managed to download a driver from the Canon site. It is for a MP160 Pixma. Mine is a MP150 but they seem to be almost identical (at least in looks) so I'll try this driver.

But again I'm stuck. The driver is called cnijfilter-mp160-2.70-1.i386.rpm

When I try to open it in Puppy 2.17, PupZip gives an error, which is "An error occured opening the rpm file. Suggestion: Install unrpm.pup DotPup package, which contains an alternative RPM extraction program, that PupZip will automatically use if present".

I can't find this package. When I open Puppy package manager, it refers me to a DotPup page but there is no unrpm.pup there.

So what do I do now. How do I extract the driver. I'm assuming I'll find a ppd file in it, but I'm not betting on it. Can you help any further. I just seem to be getting further into the mire. This is just painful!!! 2 steps forward and one back. Surprised

From what I see on the various sites, the printer only needs a file called canonmp160.ppd placed in the /usr/share/cups/model directory. I wonder why this and other drivers are just not placed on a site to be downloaded directly into the directory to be then recognised by cups. Or is this oversimplyfing it. Idea

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Rick
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2007, 07:26    Post_subject:  

download unrpmfull.pup from here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=272

click to install it, then try opening the archive with pupzip again. ( if pupzip still doesn't open the archive, make a temporary directory, move the archive there, then on the commandline, (assuming you've called the temp directory /root/mp160):

Code:

cd /root/mp160
unrpm *.rpm
)

then move all the extracted files to their proper locations, /usr/bin, /usr/lib etc

also, if you check the canon site again, you'll see that for the printer, mp160, there are 2 files required - the specific one for the mp160 & the common xxxx.rpm. both are needed to get the mp160 working, so i assume that would be the case for your 150. both needed to be extracted to the proper locations in /usr.

also, you need to create symlinks for all the files extracted to /usr/lib. i can't recall their names, but i think there's about 10-12 of them. e.g. if you've got one called libcanon.xxx.so.6.1 you need to symlink it to libcanon.xxx.so:

Code:
ln -s /usr/lib/libcanon.xxx.so.6.1 /usr/lib/libcanon.xxx.so


(i'm using poetic license with the names here as it was awhile ago when i installed!)

once you've extracted the 2 files to the proper locations & created the symlinks, you're nearly there. then you need to download pakt's cups .pup from here(18Mbytes):

http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups/Printing/cups-install-v0.3.pup

Before you install it, copy the mp160 .ppd file, which would have been in one of the rpm archives, to /root, then when you click on the cups .pup, it should pick up the .ppd file in /root.

then follow the directions to add the printer to the cups browser & set it as default.

then cross your fingers, turn 3 times widdershins while calling out nonac, nonac, nonac & it should work.

if all this effort is in vain, then send of an #@!#! email to canon support asking why they don't release linux drivers.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2007, 07:34    Post_subject:  

actually i just re-read your posting & see you've got pup2.17. rather than doing all the malarkey i suggested above, you could try copying the .ppd file to /usr/share/cups/model , then start up the cups in a browser, (which i think is http://localhost:631), and see if, when you select "add printer", it gives you the option of the mp160 .ppd.

if not, then you might have to go through the aforesaid rigmarole.
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nap44

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Aug 2007, 08:29    Post_subject:  

Hi Muggins,
Thanks for your valuable help. I've put it away tonight, so I'll try again tomorrow using your suggestions. It's exhausted me just getting to this point.
Thanks again. I'll get back to you with results.

Cheers for now,
Rick Smile



muggins wrote:
actually i just re-read your posting & see you've got pup2.17. rather than doing all the malarkey i suggested above, you could try copying the .ppd file to /usr/share/cups/model , then start up the cups in a browser, (which i think is http://localhost:631), and see if, when you select "add printer", it gives you the option of the mp160 .ppd.

if not, then you might have to go through the aforesaid rigmarole.
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PostPosted: Fri 10 Aug 2007, 03:57    Post_subject:  

Hi Muggins,
Just an update as promised, but finally I have to admit defeat. Still can't get my printer to go and I don't think it is worth any more effort having spent days on it now.

As much as I like Puppy, it is just too hard for my limited knowledge, having come from a windows environment. Good help has been available from the web but unfortunately, each suggestion leads onto another suggestion and another complication then another suggestion, then a steep learning curve which leads onto another suggestion which leads onto etc....... You get my drift.

And to absorb all this you really need to print out some of this stuff to read up on it which one can't do because the printer won't work. Talk about the chicken and the egg. It's all so confusing and to my mind a real pity, as it makes it quite difficult for one to swap from a windows environment.

My observations are that Linux per se is still in development and after perusing various web sites, most of the support seems to be in the form of try this or try that. But sometimes for the new user, it needs to be pointed out that to try this or that, clear directions like click menu then file system then etc....... with directions as to what happens when those choices are made. For instance, when I first started looking at linux as an alternative, I saw many references to "open console" or "open a terminal window" when as simple as it, I didn't have a clue what that meant. Simple once you have been shown.

I'll go back to Linux Mint which has a driver for my printer installed, which works and play around with that distro until I become more familiar with linux. Now if only I can get wine to work in Mint, I'll be happy.

Failing that, back to Windows XP. Crying or Very sad

Cheers and thanks again for your valued help,
Rick Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Aug 2007, 03:16    Post_subject:  

Hi All,
I just love the speed of puppy 2.17.1 and it's general intention.

For my purposes, I just needed a simple OS that could browse the net, print to my printer and, using Wine, run a few of my Windows packages.

Puppy seemed to be the best of all the linux distros.

However, in my case, trying to install my printer has been the most frustrating thing I have ever done in my life. I have, via windows, printed volumes of pages, read heaps of postings on the forums and still cannot get my printer to work. With each step I follow, it leads to another complication, like wrong file type or can't open or I need something else or just read this link (which further confuses) etc .......... and so it goes on. This comment also applies to other distros, except maybe Ubuntu which had a CUPS printer driver already loaded and was the only one that I could get to print.

Attempting to install Wine has been just as frustrating.

A lot of the help procedures describe, for example ... just download to your home directory or use Alien to unpack or put in this directory /usr/share etc etc, but if you don't know where these are, or how to get to them, or what to do once they are there, you get more and more confused ....well I do. It seems I'm not alone as I see very similar comments in the forums, particularly with regards Wine and printing. These would be the most useful installs for users coming from windows.

I just have to admit that (imho), the whole linux thing is so terribly unrefined from a newbies point of view, that I'm ditching any hope of using it and returning to windows before I get another ulcer. I think this confusion betrays the good work done by so many helpful people, but at the end of the day you just want to scream!!!

Maybe I'll return to linux at some future time, but for now it's back to windows, unfortunately. Crying or Very sad

Cheers to all and thanks for prior help.

Rick
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Aug 2007, 03:47    Post_subject:  

sorry things weren't easy to resolve, but the blame lies not with linux, or puppy, but with canon for not releasing easy to use drivers. so, don't forget:

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if all this effort is in vain, then send of an #@!#! email to canon support asking why they don't release linux drivers.
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Aug 2007, 08:57    Post_subject:  

Hi Muggins,

I'll have a wee break to get my breath. I'm just reluctant to abandoned Linux. I can see good things but I need to be productive with it and the two things I need, ie printing and wine have proven to be difficult in the extreme. It's just a major learning curve after being spoilt with windows. I understand the linux driver issue and believe me, I'm pushing for linux drivers whenever possible.

Puppy seems to have Cups already and I've downloaded umpteen copies of drivers. Canon-Asia have a driver for my printer (MP150) and I have downloaded that several times as well as the gutenprint generic one. But I get lost as to what to do with them. Forum help will explain one way, citing various versions and the host site will offer an alternative, which appears to be different to me.

So coupled with my struggles in learning linux, I must have several copies spread around my installation, none of which work. Even copying files from one place to another gets me confused. The copy wants to copy onto itself so I must be doing something fundamentally wrong. I get error messages or popup boxes which describe things in terminology I don't understand. I downloaded one driver package in rpm format, whatever that is, but can't open in Puppy. Needs another pack called unrpm. So downloaded that. Don't know how to unravel it or where to put it. It's in a .pup format. I tried, but just get cryptic messages or none at all. Same story with wine.

Perhaps, if you were willing, you may be kind enough to walk me through each step. I'll try one thing at a time and report back with any problems before doing the next.

I think that's the only way I'll ever get this resolved. These baby steps might help me to understand how linux works and overcome some of my problems. I'm feeling embarassingly dumb Embarassed at the moment as I can quite happily find my way around windows but get stumped in linux. Maybe $s have finally got to my head!

Come back if you would have the time and patience to help me further. I would appreciate it if you could but understand if your time is limited.

Cheers,
Rick Sad


muggins wrote:
sorry things weren't easy to resolve, but the blame lies not with linux, or puppy, but with canon for not releasing easy to use drivers. so, don't forget:

Quote:
if all this effort is in vain, then send of an #@!#! email to canon support asking why they don't release linux drivers.
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Aug 2007, 20:47    Post_subject:  

hi nap44,

you mention that:

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Canon-Asia have a driver for my printer (MP150)


where is the link for this driver, or what is the name of the package you downloaded it in? if it's available i can have a look & see how easy it would be to install. in the meantime, have you downloaded & tried the free turboprint?
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Aug 2007, 23:11    Post_subject:  

Hi muggins,
My mistake. The Canon drivers are for Windows only. Thought I had won the jackpot!

Re Turboprint. I just downloaded the driver. Tried installing the deb file according to the TurboPrint install instructions by typing into the terminal but got an error message "can't stat /etc/sudoers: no such file or directory". See what I mean about newbie difficulties. What does this mean. Stuck here!!!

Anyway, used the tgz file which I also downloaded and it extracted ok into a folder called TurboPrint, which surprised me as I thought it would install all files into the directory the tgz file was in. But it created it's own directory. This was the surprise.

I've managed to install this and printed a test page but it has a major watermark across the page making it unusable. So partial success.

Now if you could lead me through the Cups setup step by step, I would appreciate it very much. Otherwise I may buy the turboprint driver if no success.

Cheers,
Rick


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hi nap44,

you mention that:

Quote:
Canon-Asia have a driver for my printer (MP150)


where is the link for this driver, or what is the name of the package you downloaded it in? if it's available i can have a look & see how easy it would be to install. in the meantime, have you downloaded & tried the free turboprint?
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