2.17: ALSA doesn't find intel sound

Problems and successes with specific brands/models of computer audio hardware
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2.17: ALSA doesn't find intel sound

#1 Post by groundwar »

To get my Acer 5570z to run boot up, I've had to specify the nopcmcia flag. The system loads up fine and works great, but the sound won't detect and I think it's related to the pcmcia. If I remove that from the boot flags it freezes at loading kernel modules. . .

Suggestions to get around this?

2.17.

Also, the frameraste on video is cheese. I think I'm only getting 8mb of video memory.

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#2 Post by zigbert »

I got the same problem with my acer 5610Z.
I booted first with parameter 'puppy nopcmcia'. Then I had no sound because nopcmcia skips detection of pci. To fix this I commented out everything about pcmcia in /etc/rc.d/rcmodules (as Dougal suggested). Now I boot normally (without boot parameter), get pci-devices, but no pcmcia.

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#3 Post by groundwar »

So your problem remains?

It would appear to me that altering rc.modules and specifying the nopcmcia option look like they would do the same thing. In the rc.modules file there is a lot of if statements looking specifically for the nopcmcia flag. So it does the same thing, I think?

Alternatively, rather than autoconfig at boot, can't I just turn it on once the system is started?

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#4 Post by zigbert »

I do have sound after my edit.

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#5 Post by groundwar »

I'm booting up fine now without the nopcmcia. Then I do a modprode snd-hda-intel, then run alsaconfig and it recognizes the card, but no sound output.

Thanks for the help!

Cheers mate!

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#6 Post by Flash »

groundwar, is your problem fixed or not? Your last post is confusing.

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#7 Post by groundwar »

Sorry, let me rephrase.

It's booting without the nopcmcia option.

Then I ran modeprobe snd-hda-intel.

Then I ran alsaconfig. The card came up.

But no sound. No errors, just no sound.

WTF?

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#8 Post by Flash »

Try running alsamixer from a console. Maybe something is just turned off.

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#9 Post by groundwar »

Did that already. Cranked everything up. Think it needs a reboot after the fact?

CD Player runs, streaming content, but no sound.

You ran modeprobe snd-hda-intel?

Thanks for your diligence in helping. I appreciated it!

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#10 Post by gamfa »

I see a lot of folks having troble with these sound chips including me. I have a new Toshiba laptop that uses the snd-hda-intel driver. I can't get it to work in Vector 5.8. I can't get it to work in Puppy 2.17.1. It does work in Grafpup 2.0. I just haven't been able to figure why one and not the other two.

They are very strange devices.
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#11 Post by KF6SNJ »

Let me ask the stupidest of questions:

Which plug are your speakers plugged into? I only ask as the modern PCI computer sound card can have anywhere from three to five jacks. I find that whenever I change out my soundcard, I have to be extra careful to note which jack is my audio out, and even then I have made the occassional error. Now if you are using an embedded card, I would suggest making certain you didn't accidentally plug your speakers into the microphone jack. I have done that before as well. I know these may seem like rather silly or even stupid ideas, but given how we are all humans, we can certainly make mistakes.


Based upon what I've seen posted here, that is about all I can think of. Outside of that, I simply have no clue.

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#12 Post by pakt »

I'm also trying to get sound to work on an Acer 6291 laptop using Puppy 3.00beta. (Note that I haven't gotten sound to work on this machine with *any* version of Puppy).

I commented-out the pcmcia modprobing lines in rc.modules like zigbert wrote. Now I can boot the laptop without using option 'nopcmcia' and the sound modules load. Unfortunately, no sound though. No errors show in xerrs.log even when I play a sound.

Running lspci -v gives:
00:1b.0 Class 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 02)
Subsystem: 1025:012a
This is apparently a Realtek ALC268 sound chip

Searching the internet, I found this thread which explains how to fix the sound problem:
No sound on Acer TravelMate 6291with Intel High Definition Audio on Fedora Core 6

Quote from the thread:
This notebook contains a Realtek ALC268 sound chip which hasn't been supported
by ALSA now, but you can get the sound working if you recompile the latest ALSA sources and two patch files (realtek12.tar.gz)
I downloaded the files and tried to compile them, but Barry hasn't yet uploaded the kernel source which is needed.
Got the compile error
The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist
Methinks Raspberry Pi were ideal for runnin' Puppy Linux

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#13 Post by BarryK »

Rarsa, I looked at that link, and noticed the comment that it fixes sound but the microphone still doesn't work.

My Acer laptop has a ALC883 sound chip, and there are many reports of people just going back to an older version of Ubuntu or whatever. I think sound works with ALSA v1.0.12, after that the developer did something that has broken snd-hda-intel on many chips.

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#14 Post by BarryK »

I notice alsa 1.0.15rc1 is released. I'll try it.

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#15 Post by BarryK »

Ah, no, now it's 1.0.15rc2, and the changelog has this:
"hda-intel - Improve HD-audio codec probing robustness"
...I'll definitely compile and test it tonight!

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#16 Post by pakt »

BarryK wrote:...I'll definitely compile and test it tonight!
Could you make it available so we can test it too? :wink:
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#17 Post by picatrix »

...hope it will solve hda-intel no sound problem with Puppy 2.15CE on my ebox 4853 (from the manual the "silent" chip is a AC97v2.2 Via Vynil VT1708)...

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hda-intel problem on Toshiba laptop

#18 Post by richwa4sxz »

I've been reading this forum for awhile and really haven't seen any solutions to no sound with the hda-intel driver set. I got it working in ubuntu after rummaging around the forums there. Seems the module requires some options that had to be added. I have a Toshiba A135-S4427 and the motherboard audio has internal speakers, headphone and mic connector, and that is all. Puppy 2.14 worked (and still does) fine with this same computer! Something between 2.14 & 2.17
has just turned off the I/O to the card.
I also have a audigy2zs pcmcia soundcard. ALSA has a known bug so no
hope of using it with any Linux version.

Hope someone has some fresh ideas.

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#19 Post by nic2109 »

BarryK wrote:Ah, no, now it's 1.0.15rc2, and the changelog has this:
"hda-intel - Improve HD-audio codec probing robustness"
...I'll definitely compile and test it tonight!
Did this make it into 3.01 or Dingo? I've never got decent sound from Puppy, but the same hardware sounds just fantastic with Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - sorry Barry!

Is there any hope under Puppy?

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#20 Post by dbazan83 »

great information!! thanks
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