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1.0.5RC can't see my 1.0.4 Folders on the HD
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2005, 17:34    Post subject:  1.0.5RC can't see my 1.0.4 Folders on the HD  

This is probably buried in a discussion of the design of Puppy somewhere and my eyes glazed over a few paragraphs too soon so please bear with me.

Can someone provide a nickle explanation as to why 1.0.5RC is not able to see folders available to 1.0.4?

e.g. audio and video files I'd like to try under 1.0.5RC

Thanks! doc

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2005, 17:52    Post subject:  

Where are the files? Were they in the pup001 file?

1.0.5rc uses pup003 so as not to cause conflicts, so you'd have to mount the old one to get to them.
Code:
mount /mnt/home/pup001 /mnt/pupxxx -o loop

That will mount pup001 to /mnt/pupxxx. Then you can go through it and find them Smile

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2005, 19:28    Post subject:  

Pizzasgood wrote:
Where are the files? Were they in the pup001 file?
1.0.5rc uses pup003 so as not to cause conflicts, so you'd have to mount the old one to get to them.
Code:
mount /mnt/home/pup001 /mnt/pupxxx -o loop

That will mount pup001 to /mnt/pupxxx. Then you can go through it and find them Smile


It does not recognize pup001 or pup002

doc

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2005, 19:45    Post subject:  

Then it's out of my relm of knowledge. Sad Sorry.
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep 2005, 15:14    Post subject:  

Pizzasgood wrote:
Then it's out of my relm of knowledge. Sad Sorry.


This is incorrectly marked (Solved).

1.0.5RC does not see 1.0.4 (HDD install) folders on my laptop.

The first suggestion as to how to fix it did not work.

doc

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep 2005, 22:28    Post subject:  

Did you install 1.0.4 to your hard drive or did you just run it from the CD.

The same for 1.0.5. have you installed it to your hard drive or are you running it from the CD.

If you installed 1.0.4 to the hard drive is it still there or did you overwrite it with a 1.0.5 hard drive install.

If you did install 1.0.4 to the hared drive then installed 1.0.5 over the top of it chances are that you have wiped out 1.0.4s saved data.

If this is not the case and 1.0.4 is still on the hard drive or you were running it from the CD you need to know a couple of things.

In the case of a hard drive install you need to know what partition 1.0.4 is installed to and if you were just running the CD you need to know where the pup001 file or whatever it is named, is located.

Boot Puppy1.0.5 and run MUT and see what partitions you have and where it has mounted home. This will be displayed as /mnt/home.
If you only have one partition open rox and click the pointer in the ipper left corner to change to the parent directory then go to mnt/home.

If there are any pup files either pup001, pup002or pup003 files they will be displayed here and can be mounted using the following command in an rxvt window:

mount -o loop /mnt/home/pup001 /mnt/pupxxx

then go to mnt/pupxxx and the contents will be displayed

to unmount use the command umount /mnt/pupxxx

You can use the same commands to mount a pup001 or whatever file that is on a different partition by mounting the partition first and then loop mounting the pup file:

You can mount a different partition first using MUT then go to rxvt and mount the pup file i.e.
If you have mounted /hda2 with MUT it will be shown as /mnt/hda2 so just use:

mount -o loop /mnt/hda2/pup001 /mnt/pupxxx

and unmount using:

umount /mnt/pupxxx.

If your 1.0.4 install is still on your hard drive and you only have one partition and are running 1.0.5 from the CD, when you boot 1.0.5 take the option to not write to the hard drive and when it has bootes open MUT and use it to mount your partition then use rox to have a look at your files.

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep 2005, 23:36    Post subject:  

Ian wrote:
If you did install 1.0.4 to the hard drive then installed 1.0.5 over the top of it chances are that you have wiped out 1.0.4s saved data.


1.0.4 installed to HDD, 1.0.5RC from CD only.

Ian wrote:
Boot Puppy1.0.5 and run MUT and see what partitions you have and where it has mounted home. This will be displayed as /mnt/home.


fd0

hda::Hitachi .............etc.
1. swap 506.0Mb Use Swap
2. ext2 3,94.1Mb Rox /mnt/home

hdc:: CRN-8241B
Eject Data Mount CDROM

Ian wrote:
If you only have one partition open rox and click the pointer in the ipper left corner to change to the parent directory then go to mnt/home.

If there are any pup files either pup001, pup002or pup003 files they will be displayed here


Ayuh, pup003 is there from 1.0.5RC and also Root and when I clicked on Root there were my 1.0.4 folders!

Ian wrote:
and can be mounted using the following command in an rxvt window:

mount -o loop /mnt/home/pup001 /mnt/pupxxx

then go to mnt/pupxxx and the contents will be displayed

to unmount use the command umount /mnt/pupxxx


Muy excellente! (please pardon my Spanglish)

Ian wrote:
If your 1.0.4 install is still on your hard drive and you only have one partition and are running 1.0.5 from the CD, when you boot 1.0.5 take the option to not write to the hard drive and when it has bootes open MUT and use it to mount your partition then use rox to have a look at your files.


Question: Is there a way to mount 1.0.5RC on the HDD without overwriting 1.0.4?

I'd prefer to run them parallel for a while before deleting 1.0.4

Meanwhile I am going to see if I can find something in 1.0.4 that will help 1.0.5RC to communicate with my PCMCIA wireless nic.

Thanks! doc

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Sep 2005, 08:53    Post subject:  

The only safe way to install 1.0.5 to the hard drive without affecting 1.0.4 is to install it in its own partition which means splitting up the existing partition.

If you have a utility that will allow you to do this safely you could create a second ext2 partition of about 500M and install 1.0.5 in that.

There is another choice, you could change the swap partition to a native Linux partition, format it as ext2 and use it to install 1.0.5. Depending on how much RAM you have this would be the easiest way to go as it does not involve any repartitioning and can be reversed if you ever need a swap partition.

If you have 256M RAM you do not really need a swap partition for Puppy. I only mention 256M RAM as I am assuming that you have a swap partition twice the size of your RAM which is the usual convention in Linux.

You can use fdisk or cfdisk in Puppy at the command line to change the type of partition and use the mke2fs command to format it as an ext2 filesystem.
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