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#81 Post by macadavy »

Just to follow up on my earlier post, I meant to say that the audio "jitter" with streaming only occurs with Xmms in Firefox (updated to v2.0.0.6), but not in Seamonkey or Opera browsers, and not with RealPlayer, HTH. Btw - I had no prob with the Firefox update.
TazOC - a quick question. Do you know the provenance of the Seamonkey 'Oh Canada' theme? I've searched for it in Mozilla's theme download section but haven't seen it, do you know where I can get it? TIA
Jactek - you might find this post on getting Wine up & running in Puppy helpful: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=20548
I plan to eventually install Wine myself and will let everyone know how that goes...
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#82 Post by Eyes-Only »

Hi Macadavy,

If you go to this site: http://users.skynet.be/fa258499/themes.html You'll find the place where "Oh Canada!" theme can now be found for SeaMonkey I believe. In fact, clicking on "home" in the lefthand navigation bar will take you to the homepage also of the site where you'll find oodles of things for SeaMonkey in general. (News, themes, extensions, HowTos, etc.) Everything has been compiled by we members of the SeaMonkey Community and placed there under the good graces of Benoit, who hosts the site. (And who is likewise a great supporter of---Puppy Linux!)

I hope this helped?

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Streaming audio in Lighthouse

#83 Post by tazoc »

macadavy wrote:Just to follow up on my earlier post, I meant to say that the audio "jitter" with streaming only occurs with Xmms in Firefox (updated to v2.0.0.6), but not in Seamonkey or Opera browsers, and not with RealPlayer, HTH.
Interesting, I have the same jitter when scrolling in FF with radioparadise.com streaming in XMMS. Not sure why but I can live with it. Hey, if it weren't for that you wouldn't have turned me on to them! I like the music, good background for working on LIghthouse :wink:

I might set radioparadise.com default XMMS startup for LIghthouse and include it in Streamtuner Bookmarks. This might be a little confusing to infrequent/non-Lighthouse users. I'd set up XMMS to autostart and autoplay with X in beta 4. For beta 5 I moved the 'xmms-p' shortcut from /root/autostart to /root/autostart/DisabledItems. So this only applies the first time XMMS is manually started while online. Double clicking a stream in Streamtuner and closing XMMS will 'save' that as the new default stream, opened next time XMMS is started.

Any other suggestions for default streams? Beta 4's default stream KLAN East Valley has disappeared unfortunately so I need something more reliable, but still must be in a similar vein of alternative/rock/progressive and more or less commercial talk free. I also like jazz, new age, blues and social satire/comedy. Enjoy Porcupine Tree and Wilco lately.
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#84 Post by macadavy »

Eyes-Only: Pour un lien à ce bel site, merci ! Oliwni!
Really nice to know some SeaMonkey supporters are also Puppy supporters, and vice-versa - that's how we build community.
TazOC: Delighted you like RadioParadise! If you want to make it a default for Xmms in Lighthouse Puppy you'll be glad to know its already in Streamtuner under the SHOUTcast listings: Top Streams > Other/Mixed > Eclectic. Btw - they've had Wilco's wonderful song 'California Stars' from the Mermaid Avenue album of Woody Guthrie materiel they made with Billy Bragg in regular rotation lately. 8)
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#85 Post by moncha »

I tried your version of Puppy. I was unable to use it so I'll give you my experience in case the input may be helpful.

When I booted from the CD I had to choose Vesa because it's the only one that works for my system until I install nvidia drivers. It didn't give me the option to choose resolution so it was at 640 X something. Everything was so big I could barely see anything. I managed to open the X Server chooser wizard to change the resolution but the resolution wouldn't change.

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Manual menu editing?

#86 Post by macadavy »

tazoc wrote:The menus in Linux, and in most any system with plenty of apps installed, can be daunting.
No kiddin'! :wink: I've had a devil of a time trying to get Xshisen on my start & desktop menus. Note that when I installed an official pup pkg. 'Bubbles' it showed up on the menu, no prob, so it doesn't seem 'fixmenus' is at fault. But even though the PupSoftwareInstaller made all the right noises (menu updated, etc.) no entry appeared in the Start > Applications > Fun menu. I RTFM'd & ransacked the Forums and found lots of suggestions, none of which worked. I created a xshisen.desktop in /usr/share/applications but that didn't work. I attempted to explore the XDG menus (what a many-layered onion that is, I got lost!) but none (puppy-fun, etc.) had anything in them that remotely resembled what appeared on the menu! I looked for an icewn.rc that doesn't seem to exist and finally stumbled upon jwm.rc which was exactly what I was looking for but it cautioned that it was not to be edited, all editing should be done in the jwm.rc template. The template was just that and I couldn't see how any editing there would help. I finally gave up and dragged & dropped for a desktop link (which is trivial) - I just hope I don't have to do that with every dot.pup I install or I'll run out of desktop space PDQ!
Am I missing something simple in all this, or is xshisen just an older dot.pup that seeks to put itself in the no-longer-existing DotPup menu?
Any suggestions as to how to manually edit menus in LHPuppy? :?
Update: So I go to Start > Documents > Text Editors to open Leafpad and low & behold what do I see but Xshisen nestled in between SeaMonkey Composer and the Text Editors sub-menu, and again between the MP and e3 console editors within the sub-menu - go figure! So how does one manually edit menus in LHPuppy? :? :?
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#87 Post by tazoc »

moncha wrote:I tried your version of Puppy. I was unable to use it so I'll give you my experience in case the input may be helpful.

When I booted from the CD I had to choose Vesa because it's the only one that works for my system until I install nvidia drivers. It didn't give me the option to choose resolution so it was at 640 X something. Everything was so big I could barely see anything. I managed to open the X Server chooser wizard to change the resolution but the resolution wouldn't change.
Hi moncha, sorry for the delay in responding. LIghthouse Beta 4 has a major issue with Xvesa. You can try this workaround described here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 987#139987
Or just wait a day or two; I'm debugging a new Lighthouse 215 ISO Beta 5 right now, which includes improved support for Xvesa and many other updates and enhancements. I hope to have it ready for upload tomorrow.
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Re: Manual menu editing?

#88 Post by tazoc »

macadavy wrote:Am I missing something simple in all this, or is xshisen just an older dot.pup that seeks to put itself in the no-longer-existing DotPup menu?
Any suggestions as to how to manually edit menus in LHPuppy? :?
Update: So I go to Start > Documents > Text Editors to open Leafpad and low & behold what do I see but Xshisen nestled in between SeaMonkey Composer and the Text Editors sub-menu, and again between the MP and e3 console editors within the sub-menu - go figure! So how does one manually edit menus in LHPuppy? :? :?
Hi macadavy, good question! Complicated answer but I'll try to keep it simple, yet answer so that maybe others can be helped also... Many DotPups were were written before XDG menu system was adopted in Puppy, so xshisen.pup, for example doesn't by default come with a .desktop application file necessary for proper XDG menu support.

What is a .desktop file? A small text file for each app, usually found in /usr/share/applications. Open that folder in Rox-Filer, right-click on one|Open As Text to see what is inside. To make a new one in Lighthouse, right-click in an empty area inside /usr/share/applications | click New | Application | Create. Now you'll have a new file there--Application.desktop, so rename it the same as your new application, e.g., xshisen.desktop. (I see you're on the right track as you indicate you made a .desktop file and it's now showing in the menu.) Anyway, right-click | Open As Text. Now, go through the entries, changing the ones that need to be changed for xshisen instead of what's there (abiword.)

Exec=
This line specifies how to execute the application. If the app is in the menu but doesn't work right when you click on it, open a Terminal and copy and paste everything after the Exec= to see what's happening.

Icon=
In Lighthouse (and in KDE) many icons are .png (not .xpm) and located within /usr/share/icons. So the DefaultBrowser.desktop has the entry: Icon=browse-gold2.png

I put in #comments below in the template to help explain each line; most are from a helpful post by Rarsa: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=7685 Rules of thumb on Desktop entries:
1-This file is Case sensitive
2-If you aren't sure about a key (existing line), leave it alone.

Now getting back to your question, look at:
Categories=
This one is what determines where the app will appear in the menus and whether it can be in more than one place. More than one category separated by a semicolon ( ; ) will allow more than one entry in the menu system. Too many? Just pick the one you want and remove the others.
For more info on categories see http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-s ... t/apa.html
and for Barry's specific Puppy menu categories, open
/etc/xdg/menus/hierarchy with a text editor.

When you've finished with the new .desktop file, save your changes and click Menu | Window Manager | Refresh Menus or type fixmenus in a Terminal.
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#89 Post by moncha »

sweet. thanks!

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Solved!

#90 Post by macadavy »

Thanks TazOC - easy when you know how! The missing key ingredient was 'Categories'. I modified the .desktop and ran 'fixmenus' and every thing is as it should be. Its interesting that the problem was not any fault in LHPuppy, it stemmed from my ignorance of the XDG menu system. LH remains a really skookum Puppy variant and its only beta!
I'll take this opportunity to mention success with CUPS printing: the installation was trivial, configuring my EPSON StylusC66 likewise, and my puppy now prints!
Tried using the 3DCC to download/install nVidia drivers but nothing happened. Xorg,config shows I'm using the nv driver so perhaps I don't need anything more. 3D test runs @ >10fps, but it is an older nVidia GeForce4 440MX vidcard.
May I just say how much I appreciate your taking time to respond when (I now realize) you're a busy beaver debugging LH beta5 - can't hardly wait! :D
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Lighthouse 215Beta5 is posted to new thread

#91 Post by tazoc »

Thank you everyone for your patience and excellent feedback. I apologize for the delays. Lighthouse 215Beta5 is posted; see this thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 655#143655

Many of your suggestions and ideas were incorporated into Beta5. I hope you find it useful!
Take care,
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LHPuppy beta5

#92 Post by macadavy »

Hi TazOC, welcome back from all that de-bugging, hope you're giving yourself some time off!
I've upgraded from beta4 > 5 and I'm very pleased: many minor fixes and it still works fine with K3B & Mariner add-ons.
I haven't torture-tested every app :wink: but so far so good, as I've said before: this is one very polished beta!
That irritating bug with the MAD Mpeg decoder in XMMS remains, but its hardly fatal. Consider mentioning it to the XMMS developers. The jitter while listening to RadioParadise and scrolling in Firefox appears to have disappeared - perhaps it was just one of those random ghost-in-the-machine type faults that comes & goes for no apparent reason.
One thing I've especially come to appreciate as I become more comfortable using it is the Rox tweaking you've done. I'd only previously known it as a simple file manager that was more graphical than some others, I hadn't appreciated its capacity to be a quasi desktop environment - sweet!
Again, thanks for a beautiful, useful Puppy variant that fits me like a glove - luv it! :D
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