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richard.a

Okay folks... have a look at this and see if it makes sense?

I've taken the verbose route because I believe that explanations should be offered.

Page is at http://micro-hard.homelinux.net/puppy/installing-puppy/

Comments are solicited please.

Richard in Oz

ecomoney · Posted: Mon 01 Oct 2007, 04:40 Post subject: installer

Richard I think your tutorial is excellent, you obviously have a lot of expertise in this. Ive never had to do more than either a dual-boot cd-in=linux-cd-out=windows or a full hard drive install to hda1 with all of the computers that have been through the drop in cybercafe so far. I think anyone reading would see at a glance exactly how complicated setting up puppy actually is!

ecomoney · Posted: Mon 01 Oct 2007, 22:56 Post subject: Installer video

While all this talk of installers was going on, our Lead Developer, (a very talented programmer from Australia) has been working on something that I think is a bit of a first for any linux distro (correct me if Im wrong). This is what will happen when the next ecopup cd is inserted into a running windows machine (95,98,98se,me,2000,NT,xp and Vista). Very Happy

http://ecomoney.eu/ecopup/screenshots/installerpreview.avi

This is still testing, and already weve altered the final screen to give instructions. Any more suggestions would be very helpful.

richard.a · Posted: Tue 02 Oct 2007, 02:55 Post subject:

Okay mate, it has my vote.

Is it possible to get hold of the installer and suggestions how to use it in conjunction with the ISO I successfully downloaded?

Testing by as many injuns as possible would be great Smile

Richard

Gekko · Posted: Tue 02 Oct 2007, 04:07 Post subject:

The installer relies on two files that will be on the next version of Ecopup due in the next few days.

Here is a link to the video on youtube.

No, I'm not staying.

cthisbear · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 4206 Location: Sydney Australia

Gekko

" No, I'm not staying. "

Good idea mate.
With people like me on this forum it's bound to spoil your dinner.
Look after yourself.

Chris

richard.a · Posted: Tue 02 Oct 2007, 07:27 Post subject: Re: Installer video

ecomoney · Posted: Tue 02 Oct 2007, 09:04 Post subject: Release Date

Hi, I havnt set a release date for the next ecopup as yet, although Im working furiously on it. There will be a lot of additions and improvements, including the windows installer, (and hopefully a linux one from the livecd as well, i.e. an install icon on the livecd desktop). As regards the windows installer, it relies on a set format for the files on the cd, so is not compatible with the format that is used currently on ecopup 0.7.1 That being said, it shouldnt be too much work to modify the existing 0.7.1 to include the installer so as to allow it to be tested. I understand Gekko has done some testing but only under virtual machines. I dont have ready access to an windows computer with which to try it.

Gekko has had the idea of using strict bz2 compression for the eco_save.2fs file, and along with space savings that have been made by removing a duplicate JAVA setup in the openoffice squash file (java is in the eco_pup.2fs file) it seems we now have an extra 69mb of space on the cd to add more apps. I want to fill some of this with more games, and also the opera web browser which seems very popular. I may also include a short video or some documentation about ecopups "roots" at the Riddings drop in cybercafe. Ive attached my rough working notes of issues that need resolving and features that I plan to add, and would welcome feedback about them.

Thanks again everyone for your interest in this project.

cb88 · Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 1169 Location: USA

have you considered LZMA compression using 7-zip and p7-zip(command line linux verion)

has excellent compression in windows

Gekko · Posted: Tue 02 Oct 2007, 18:48 Post subject:

I did the testing on Windows in a VM initially when it could direly break something, but I've tested it on my actually setup.

richard.a · Posted: Tue 02 Oct 2007, 19:23 Post subject: Re: Release Date

veronicathecow · Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 544

Looking forward to Ecopup 3.00 if that's what you are basing the next version on.
Cheers
Tony

cthisbear · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 4206 Location: Sydney Australia

Ecopup is now on another Australian Server.

http://os.cqu.edu.au/pub/iso/puppylinux/

Thanks to Neville Richter.

ecomoney · Posted: Fri 05 Oct 2007, 19:27 Post subject: Many thanks Chris

Many thanks for setting up the links cthisbear and everyone. This will help the load on Ecomoney's servers considerably, and provide a more reliable download for people that want/need to use ecopup. I will post a link in the top of the

I think with the next version Ive created myself quite a lot of jobs for myself and it will take a while to complete them all. Expect a lot of changes and additions. Ive delayed the next classes at the centre and put my hours down to just one day a week so I can concentrate on it.

I welcome many of the enhancements in version 3. As you may know I have been invited to help co-ordinate the development of the next community edition of puppy, which will be based on puppy linux 3.2 when that comes out. I plan to use the experience I have gained working at the cybercafe where the ideas in ecopup were formed. Puppy 3 has several big base architecture changes, and I wish to wait until these have "matured" i.e. it has been well tested and driver support widened, before embarking on the community edition project (and afterwards an ecopup based upon it). After this next edition of ecopup is "complete", I only want to issue bugfix releases (no new major features) as I want to give my full attention to learning about puppy 3 in preparation of the next community edition. I envisage ecopup 0.8 series to be based upon puppy linux 3.3ce.

EDIT:

After some thought, I have added an extra item to the aims of ecopup (see the first post).