1.0.5 - special requests

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Lobster · #1 Post by **Lobster** » Mon 19 Sep 2005, 13:42

You have a few days to plead for an existing program. Also to submit some code for Puppy 1.0.5 . . .

My request would be for the dotpup downloader from Mark (MU) using wxbasicscript, running the 0.2 dotpup script from G2 (GuestToo)

What would you like in 1.0.5 (from existing scripts and dotpups)?

puppian · #2 Post by **puppian** » Mon 19 Sep 2005, 17:04

Lobster wrote:My request would be for the dotpup downloader from Mark (MU) using wxbasicscript, running the 0.2 dotpup script from G2 (GuestToo)

Me too. Plus,

Tkgames.pup∞(53k) by KlhRevolutionist
I like the game Collapse http://wiki.tcl.tk/10287
Very addictive

puppian · #3 Post by **puppian** » Mon 19 Sep 2005, 17:56

And this one is a must:
slightly hacked version of PupGet with ping test disabled

People who can't get pupget work will be very happy with it

Thanks BruceB for discovering that "error 10 and 11 is generated by a failure of the ping command to get a response." and G2 for making the doppup available for testing

GuestToo · #4 Post by **GuestToo** » Mon 19 Sep 2005, 22:44

the ping test in pupget does not seem to work for everybody

i wrote a little demo that uses wget to test the internet connection (suggested by Bruce B), if anyone is interested

puppian, maybe you could download and test the test-online demo, and see if it works on your machine

i guess i should post about the pupget bug in the Bugs section, just to be sure

John Doe · #5 Post by **John Doe** » Tue 20 Sep 2005, 03:16

GuestToo wrote:the ping test in pupget does not seem to work for everybody

i wrote a little demo that uses wget to test the internet connection (suggested by Bruce B), if anyone is interested

Thanks, that was bugging me also.

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I already made my plea for mppe and Barry said no.

http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=1936
http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=1997

mppe:
http://mppe-mppc.alphacron.de/

As I previously stated, I think it's the only thing missing. Maybe I'll just have to wait for the next version

(or start over with a bigger pupfile on my usb. I don't have enough room to compile the kernel)

GuestToo · #6 Post by **GuestToo** » Tue 20 Sep 2005, 05:27

i replaced the ping test with the wget test in pupget for Puppy 1.0.5rc, and uploaded a dotpup here, if anybody wants to try it

GuestToo · #7 Post by **GuestToo** » Tue 20 Sep 2005, 05:43

my dotpup handler 0.0.2 does not have many changes

mostly it adds Always and Never buttons, so you can set it to run in quiet mode, and not ask anymore if you want to unzip the dotpup, or to run the installer

i made some other changes, but it's a simple program and doesn't do a lot anyway (unzips the dotpup, checks the md5sum, runs dotpup.sh)

i don't know if it has any bugs ... no one has reported any so far

it's easy to install a different dotpup handler, so it is not really important if it is put in the next version of Puppy

if it is put in Puppy 1.0.5, it probably should be renamed to dotpuprox.sh and put in /usr/sbin ... and /root/Choices/MIME-types/application_pup should point to dotpuprox.sh, not dotpuprox002.sh (in other words, it should just replace the 0.0.1 dotpup handler file

gliezl · #8 Post by **gliezl** » Tue 20 Sep 2005, 06:33

mgetty please.

flavour · #9 Post by **flavour** » Tue 20 Sep 2005, 07:18

Fix PCCC

http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=2289

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puppian · #10 Post by **puppian** » Tue 20 Sep 2005, 19:16

GuestToo wrote:the ping test in pupget does not seem to work for everybody
i wrote a little demo that uses wget to test the internet connection (suggested by Bruce B), if anyone is interested

I've tested it and it works fine. It reports that all sites (ibiblio, nluug and google, except the 'www.google7474758474.com' one) are online. Thanks!

I've also tested the "PupGet for Puppy 1.0.5rc with ping fix, pupget105H.pup" (I test it on Puppy 1.0.3) and it works too!

GuestToo · #11 Post by **GuestToo** » Tue 20 Sep 2005, 22:25

thanks for testing it
it works ok on my machine too
www.google7474758474.com does not exist, of course, and was put there for testing purposes

Lobster · #12 Post by **Lobster** » Tue 20 Sep 2005, 23:53

eh?
Will this compact Java Virtual Machine
http://jamvm.sourceforge.net/
suggested by Java user (and only 100k-135k) really work?

#13 Post by MU » Tue 20 Sep 2005, 23:57

Lobster, that is a commandlineversion only like wxBasicscript.

No Grafical interface(AWT, SWING , what is the equivalent to wxWidgets)

So you can not use it to run all these desktop-programs written in Java.

Mark

GuestToo · #14 Post by **GuestToo** » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 04:25

the thing is, it requires GNU Classpath that does most of the work, which is about 6 megs

it is smaller than Sun's Java, but not a lot smaller ... how well it would work, i don't know ... i would expect there would be some compatibility problems ... there's also kaffe

Kaffe is constantly under development, and lacks compatibility in many ways with the current releases of Java. It lacks many key features of a full Java virtual machine implementation

GNU Classpath, Essential Libraries for Java, is a GNU project to create free core class libraries for use with virtual machines and compilers for the java programming language.

Classpath is still a work in progress. The first public release will be version 1.0. There have been no public releases

BarryK · #15 Post by **BarryK** » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 07:37

GuestToo wrote:the thing is, it requires GNU Classpath that does most of the work, which is about 6 megs

it is smaller than Sun's Java, but not a lot smaller ... how well it would work, i don't know ... i would expect there would be some compatibility problems ... there's also kaffe

Kaffe is constantly under development, and lacks compatibility in many ways with the current releases of Java. It lacks many key features of a full Java virtual machine implementation

GNU Classpath, Essential Libraries for Java, is a GNU project to create free core class libraries for use with virtual machines and compilers for the java programming language.

Classpath is still a work in progress. The first public release will be version 1.0. There have been no public releases

I think John Murga knows all about them and their merits or lack of.

#16 Post by **JohnMurga** » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 15:08

Hey

BarryK wrote:I think John Murga knows all about them and their merits or lack of.

I did do some research on this a while back ...

I got SableVM, GCJ and Blackdown running on Puppy ...

There are a couple of things to be clear on :

The Sun and Blackdown VMs are the only ones that'll give you a working java plug-in for use with Opera/Mozilla.
As much as all the VM's I tried supported GUI's (Swing/AWT) these two are also the only two with 100% support.

GCJ is widely considered the better "other" JVM and is being used as the "free" Java VM for OpenOffice 2.
I think there may have been some work around a browser plug-in for this too.

Blackdown is freely distributable, but not "free" as it contains some Sun stuff.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html

The only VM that really gave me all I needed (other than Sun), was Blackdown although it was very big. GCJ came close, and is pretty cool in that it can produce standalone executables, it was very fast and has moved on since I tried it ... It is also currently very actively developed.

SableVM is a little like jamvm (which has been mentioned), however it is a lot faster and has a full-but-small JDK package ... The problem is that it currently relies on a slightly outdated version of the GNU Classpath libraries (July).

My opinion is that the best thing would be to re-build the GCC environment for the usr_devx.sfs and include "java" support... This would include the full GCJ (which is part of the GCC suite) and would give people a pretty good Java environment to play with.

Now ... For those absolutely DESPERATE to have a really tight little Java environment there is EweVM (http://ewesoft.com/), this'll give you nice small apps with a small footprint ... But is not really Java

Cheers
JohnM

#17 Post by **JohnMurga** » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 22:23

Back on topic ...

"galculator" is nicer than any of the calculators currently in Puppy

And it is nice and small

Cheers
JohnM

Waikiki Websurfer · #18 Post by **Waikiki Websurfer** » Thu 22 Sep 2005, 02:49

Aloha Everyone,

I posted this with a new topic, but on second thought decided that perhaps responding to this thread would be more appropriate, so I'm reposting my message/query here;

Basically, what I was curious about was whether there would be any possibility of seeing ng-wlan-linux and ndiswrapper linux wireless modules in Puppy's kernel in any of the upcoming releases, either in the standard release or perhaps in a separate/additional laptop/wireless optimized release? Obviously, these two modules would add support to a wide variety of wireless cards currently not supported by Puppy.

The reason I'm asking is because it seems to me that Puppy is one of the best distros to use on a laptop for fast wireless connectivity (i.e., how quickly do you get online from the moment you power on your laptop with a HD-install distro), but my Prism chipset based wireless card is only supported by the ng-wlan-linux drivers (my card is Airvast wm168b internal USB, inside Averatec 3150P model laptop) or by the Window$ drivers by ndiswrapper (worse option, and has not worked with other distros).

I would love to see a Puppy that is targeted for laptop/notebook/etc connectivity.

Also, with linux OS cell phones containing 802.11 b/g connectivity (Such as Motorola's and Nokia's upcoming phones) scheduled for 2006 release, it might be possible to hack puppy into the add-on flashrom cards....

What do you think?

Cheers!

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