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Can't install "Opera 8.5" as alien package(Solved)
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Helpee
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep 2005, 21:20    Post subject:  Can't install "Opera 8.5" as alien package(Solved)  

I downloaded DotPup for Opera and tried to use DotPup Package Installer. It unzipped it and tried to go to download site Ftp.opera.com

As I understand WGet does not work for FTP sites.

So to work arround that, I downloaded via Mozilla to the tmp folder and tried to use PupGet package manager with alien method. It gives me an error that this package is trying to install somewhere other than Top Level Directory, like /root, /user etc. Hence, no installation.

How do I then install and run Opera as I always liked it while runing Windows

By the way, anyone remembers how was it like to use Windows in golden old days Smile

Please help!
I am using Multisession LiveCD of the ramdisk only. I have 1GB of DDR-Ram

PS: Puppy roks
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Bruce B


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep 2005, 21:37    Post subject:  

i thought wget works on ftp
puppy has a good gui ftp client, how about using it?
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Helpee
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep 2005, 21:41    Post subject:  

Thanks for understanding the word urgent and prompt responce. but you see, the problem is not in downloading, problem is in Installation.

Both, DotPup Installer, and PupGet Manager are not letting it get installed.

Any thoughts ?
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klhrevolutionist


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep 2005, 23:09    Post subject: here you go  

yes go to www.opera.com and download, if it is help your needing because you are new to the
world wide web just ask

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rarsa


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Sep 2005, 23:22    Post subject:  

I think that you are doing something really wrong.

1st. wget can do ftp for sure.

2nd. DotPups aren't installed with the PupGet Manager as alien packages. They are executed from within Rox (just click the icon)

3rd. If you go to the opera site and download it. You need to download the tar.gz version, untar it and run the installation script.

That's it. It asks a couple of questions about where to put it I disabled those questions to simplify the install.

It also gives a missleading message that sounds like an error but isn't. Something like that it cannot put certain files under /usr. The strange thing is that it does not even try to put them there, it always copies them to /etc.

And PLEASE. I've re-read your post three times and I still don't understand why would it be urgent.

Maybe it's urgent that you learn some etiquete.

Urgent is that it fried your computer and you don't want other people to suffer the same. Urgent is if it corrupts your OS, Urgent is if it runs away with your wife. That you cannot install it for whatever reason is not urgent. If it was the case, 70% of the posts could be marked as urgent. You would have gotten a prompt response even with out the urgent word.

I'd appreciate if you have some consideration for other people's time. Nobody is as important as they think they are.
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Helpee
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2005, 04:55    Post subject:  

Dear Rarsa, I am sorry if my using the word urgent got you this angy with me.

Since I wrote it in a hurry, I might have missed some details, hence you got the impression that I was trying to install a DotPup with pup get. So here is the run down

I Clicked DotPup in Rox, It showed the error that internet connection not found. As you can see I am connected to internet and writing this post.

Then, I downloaded a tar.gz package from Opera using my browser to a local folder and Then tried to run PupGet with alien method on local file that I downloaded. and it showed a message indicating that this package is trying to install somewhere other then a /root or /user and did not install the package.

I may be wrong again. Can you please help ?

Thanks
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MU


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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2005, 05:02    Post subject:  

Helpee,

copy the opera.pup for example to /root/tmp

unzip it:
cd /root/tmp
unzip opera.....pup

Now open dotpup.sh in beaver and unccomment the line with wget with a "#".

Now copy the opera.tgz you downloaded to the same folder, and run dotpup.sh:
./dotpup.sh

Best will be to download the file that is in the line with wget (you can use mozilla for this, just type in the ftp://... like a normal HTML-Website in the adressbar).


then you also will see, if it was a problem with wget, or if you have problems with that file in Mozilla too.
Maybe just the server was down, they certainly have high traffic currently.

Greets, Mark
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Helpee
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2005, 05:19    Post subject:  

I appreciate all the help, but it seems like nobody is really reading my post before replying.

Guys, Guys, I have DOWNLOADED the file already so enough about telling me how to Download ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/850/final/en/i386/shared/opera-8.50-20050916.5-shared-qt.i386-en.tar.gz

It is now on my computer/root, so please help me install it.

PupGet with alien method is not working.

I am using Puppy1.0.4 Multisession LiveCD

Thanks
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MU


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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2005, 05:27    Post subject:  

I just explained you how to install it...

copy it to /root/tmp together with the dotpup and do what i described.
dotpup.sh will install the file you downloaded manually, if you uncomment (=deactivate) the line that tries to run wget.

Mark
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Pizzasgood


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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2005, 09:30    Post subject:  

Quote:
if you uncomment (=deactivate) the line that tries to run wget


You mean comment, right? As commenting would stop it from running wget, and uncommenting would make it run it, which it should already do.

Helpee, do what he said, but you might need to make dotpup.sh executable first. It wouldn't hurt.


The other way to install it is to unarchive the .tar.gz file and run the install script inside. I'm not sure what it is called, but it works. That's how I installed Opera before the dotpup was made. It takes more setup to get it going though.


As for Pupget, it is not made for installing packages that were not specifically made for it. If I made a package that it could install, but Barry didn't support it, that would be an alien package.

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MU


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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2005, 09:38    Post subject:  

ah, ok , thanks for the explanation Smile

Germans say "auskommentieren" (un-comment) to comment lines, so this is confusing.

Greets, Mark
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2005, 10:07    Post subject:  

This is confusing,never tried Multi-session live-cd.I'm going to wait for Mean Puppy.
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MU


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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2005, 10:45    Post subject:  

Nono, don't wait for it...

Take this dotpup.
Download it and click on it in rox.

It is Rarsas Installer 03 with deactivated FTP-download.

The opera-8.50-20050916.5-shared-qt.i386-en.tar.gz must be already in in /root ,as you have done it Smile

Greets, Mark
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Helpee
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2005, 15:32    Post subject:  

Hello Guys.

Thanks for all the help. I was able to copy tar.gz and put it in my /root, I also unzipped dotpup package in my /tmp and run dotpup.sh as described by MU.

Every thing worked fine except that an error message about the plugins which I could not understand.

any how, I am now coming live from LiveCD and and typing away in Opera 8.5. all because of your help and support. This forum is great and all the forumers ( like that is a real word ) are also great.

Just a quick note for raras.

Man, you need to chill out. Was it really that big a deal if I used the word urgent, that you bashed me like you did. But I forgive you. But, you need to chill nonetheless

Thanks Everyone.
Have a great Puppy Day.
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2005, 15:47    Post subject:  

The only person who needs to chill out around here is me.
Netiquette - I thought it was a new form of fishing.

In the words of advice from my [alleged] psychiatrist, "I ain't treating you till you start acting sane."

And that bit about "communication is what the other person hears - not what you said." Well I ain't listening to that . . .

Anyway I will do my best to be kewl - how am I doing so far?
Cool

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