Puppy on the EEEPC?

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#21 Post by macadavy »

rozojc: Reason I ask is 'cause you're one of the first I've heard of who gets a chance to play with the eeePC. Looking at the specs it seems Puppy-perfect, 'cause Puppy is totally into 'low-end' machines.
We have a fair amount of experience with USB flash drives (I'm running Lighthouse Puppy on a 4GB Kingston DataTraveler) but I haven't seen a lot of mention of IDE CF. So we're happy to help wherever we can, and you can help us by letting us know how it goes! :)
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I hope someone can make a special pup for the EEEPC

#22 Post by MyPup »

I have been looking at these for awhile with great anticipation I was hoping to wait for the 8 or 16gig version. I believe that the 8gig will be released the end of November. I know that there are many flavors of puppy that should work with this unit and as we all know certain versions of puppy work better than others just depends on the individual machine. I am looking forward to getting one soon and trying fatfree3 with some add ons like ezpup3 or maybe the new revpup 213 a remaster of one of my favorite puppy versions. From all the various EEEPC sites out there I have found that they will boot from sd slot although, I haven't heard at what speed the sd slot is. I really hope that puppy will be tweaked by someone as a specialty for this particular pc as many of you are interested in the device. I hope that it will be able to boot as fast as the distro that comes with the unit which is between 20-27 seconds depending on the youtube video or sites you can visit. I will be getting mine from http://www.allasus.com/ Looking forward to some fellow puppy fans enjoying a new tiny sub notebook hopefully running puppy Linux on it.

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#23 Post by rozojc »

Well, someone seems to have tried Puppy, but there seem to be problems with both the Ethernet and the WiFi.

You can read it at:
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=778
BTW, that page is for EEE users in case you're interested

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#24 Post by raffy »

The USB installation procedure is OK, and I posted there about the possible solutions:
If you start the network wizard from the setup menu, you will see a button "Load module" (driver). This will require some knowledge of the chip that is in your network device. Both wired and wireless devices are included there.

The wifi is an atheros chip: "The Eee PC uses an Atheros AR5BXB63 wireless module for 802.11b/g wireless Internet access." ( http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=13453 )

ath_pci module is in Puppy.

There is an old version specially built to address new devices, the 2.17.1. Maybe you can try this. Hopefully, version 2.17.1 can load the SSD. Get it via http://puppylinux.net/download/downpage.htm
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#25 Post by Lobster »

Did Asus miss the chance for this level of cuteness?
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Be interesting to see how xandros compares to Puppy
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/HardwareTesting

Any screenshots yet?

Here is Puppy on Intels Puppy
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http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7384572891.html

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Review by someone who has an Eee PC

#26 Post by BlackAdder »

Deb Shinder writes newsletters for XP and Vista, but she has her hands on an Eee. You can read some of her comments here. It is the second post on that page; follow the link for more. She comments that the operating system takes 2.4GB, so I don't know how people would go with the 2GB model. 9 seconds to boot - she says. Wow! :shock:

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#27 Post by headfound »

someone has loaded Puppy 2.14 on an sd card AND got networking going!
(post 11)

http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=152

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#28 Post by pinzoy »

... and here's the online screen !


Using ndiswrapper and the windoze driver in the supplied CD.
Only works with WEP at the moment.
I'll try fiddling around with WPA supplicant soon.

Have fun... Yay!
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#29 Post by macadavy »

Easily done, pinzoy (we all had to learn).
After you've written your post scroll to the bottom to the section: 'Add an Attachment' and enter a URI (like the one in your post) and add any comments you want, then click on 'Add Attachment'. If you wish to check things before submitting the post, just click on 'Preview' to make sure everything is as you want it, then click 'Submit'.
Simple, eh - care to try again? :wink:
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#30 Post by raffy »

Using the image link, just enclose it in the [img] BBcode (see the button above the editing window).
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EEEPC WiFi Question

#31 Post by azieser »

Ok I looked on the EEEPC forum and also this forum and they mention that you need to blacklist the ath_pci file see EEE PC Forum Site:

1. Go to a terminal as root.
2. Edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist using your favorite editor (nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist)
3. Add the following lines:

blacklist ath_pci
blacklist ath_hal

4. Restart the computer
5. To configure ndiswrapper, unzip the Windows drivers of your WiFi card somewhere (/home/jdoe/drivers in this example. The driver itself is usually).
6. Open up a terminal and go to that location (cd /home/jdoe/drivers)
7. Add the driver to ndiswrapper (ndiswrapper -i ./net5211.inf*)
8. Run: modprobe ndiswrapper
9.You also want to make sure ndiswrapper loads on startup. add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules

* (net5211.inf is avalible from the within the Asus EeePc 701 Support DVD Rev:1.1 at location:

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wifi - try there

#32 Post by raffy »

Thanks for the booting info. I have posted a suggestion here. Let us know how it goes.

BTW, what is the name of the SSD drive after Puppy was booted from it? Is it sda, sdb, hda or hdb? The default drive (with Xandros) and the new SSD boot device should be visible when you use the mount utility. Having a picture of this will be sweet.
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Figured out the blacklisting

#33 Post by azieser »

In Puppy right click on the desktop to bring up the program listings, go to system then select "BootManager configure bootup" This will bring up a window that has 3 buttons click on blacklist a module. This opens a window up with two columns select from the left column ATH_PCI and click the add bar to move it to the right column, then pick the ATH_HAL on the left column and move it to the right column.

Reboot your EEE PC after it starts up again these modules will be blacklisted then click on the connect icon and goto Connect to internet by network interface. Click Load Module and select the more tab. Then select the NDISWrapper and select the driver from the wireless folder from the EEE PC Restore dvd and follow the prompts it will connect to the wireless card now because the ATH drivers are out of the way.

I hope this makes it a little easier for other people to get their EEE PC's online and it bypasses the need for manually editing files in your system.

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Re: wifi - try there

#34 Post by azieser »

raffy wrote:Thanks for the booting info. I have posted a suggestion here. Let us know how it goes.

BTW, what is the name of the SSD drive after Puppy was booted from it? Is it sda, sdb, hda or hdb? The default drive (with Xandros) and the new SSD boot device should be visible when you use the mount utility. Having a picture of this will be sweet.
Well it booted from the SD card not the SSD drive. Actually it sees the SD card as sda and the SSD Drive as hdc Also I am running the new TMXXINE Puppy Linux that came out today, it has everything you could possible want already loaded onto it and the ICEWM themes are excellent.

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time travel

#35 Post by raffy »

eee as the platform for Tmxxine time travel - how impossibly true. 8)

Thanks, azieser. (And thanks again for resizing that desktop image to fit the board.)

As to blacklisting, I wonder if it is needed in Puppy, especially if the Network Wizard has not picked up any "ath" module.

Plus, if you had to reboot, then you must already be using a pup_save in your SD card. Using the Network Wizard at first boot should be cool (if that is at all possible).
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#36 Post by Teddy89h »

@azieser: do you have wlan and the 800x480 res working?

I just asked Hacao to upload his files on sd-card. would be great, if you could do this as well.

the fine thing: the EEE is always the EEE! One Puppy on sd for every EEE pc! this would be very interesting for those, who prefer winxp on ssd :D.

thank u very much ;)


pf: is it fast?

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#37 Post by alienjeff »

Taiwanese manufactures are not necessarily your friends. To wit:
http://cliffhacks.blogspot.com/2007/11/ ... d-gpl.html
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#38 Post by T_B »

Haven't got an eeepc yet, but it will be delivered soon.
Haven't seen any distro beat the Xandros default distro. It is still more compatible with the hardware and faster (especially booting) than others.
Would love to see anyone take up the challenge and make a customized version for the eeepc.

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#39 Post by Natashquan »

alienjeff, as much as it's good to know that Asus was in violation of the GNU General Public License by not releasing its full source code library, it would help if you just came out and said it instead of dropping a link with no explanation but some ominous statement about Taiwanese manufacturers being shady. More to the point, Asus has since released the aforementioned source, and it is available here:
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/news11272007.htm

Also of note is the announcement on the same page about plans for releasing the Eee PC SDK, though they don't mention a release date.

I can't afford to get an Eee PC for myself yet, but I'm avidly watching to see how this changes the compatibility of Puppy with it. Keep up the good work, guys!

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#40 Post by T_B »

Right now I don't think the right persons are busy trying to get Puppy eeepc ready. Other distros are more lively present on the eeeusers.com forum. I like puppy but if another distro has better results on the eeepc I will go for that.
Most important imo is hardware functionality, booting time and working speed. I think Puppy can beat every other distro on all these points.

I will probably first try the standard Archos distro for a while and after that try Slackware or Arch. I've seen some good reports on that one, only thing bothering me is the booting time. I want the fastest booting time possible.

I'm sure the eeepc will have a great impact on the knowledge and spreading acceptance of Linux. When the eeepc specific distros will come (and they will come I'm sure), we will have the same advantage as Apple. We will all have the same hardware, but a lot more choice :)

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