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mark2


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PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2007, 14:56    Post subject:  

I fell at the first hurdle with my desktop system an error message

Code:
/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off


I need to do some research I think, sata, ide and 2 optical drives.

EDITMaybe I should try a frugal install , copy /paste the necessary files and manually edit the boot.ini and grub menu.
Is it likely to work with out a pup save file already there ?


Thinking I'd perhaps got a corrupted download, I tried it out on my laptop, when asked which pup save file to use, 0, 1 or 2, I chose 0. Help no compiz Confused

However on doing the below, compiz works fine. Very Happy

Lobster wrote:

I think if I did puppy pfix=ram on booting compiz would work again . . .

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2007, 16:32    Post subject:  

OK got Xorg working on nvidia GeForce 6200

I think that for generating the xorg.conf only nvidia-xconfig command should be used because xorgwizard is making a funky xorg.conf on this PC because it has integrated video and it is still detected by xorgwizard even though it is not activated

running this at the command line sets up xorg.conf perfectly

Code:
nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --allow-glx-with-composite --disable-glx-root-clipping --render-accel --composite --depth=24

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2007, 16:41    Post subject:  

Ok even on this card emerald is still crashig the same I have attached the xorg.conf that works below
what does this mean?
Code:
sh-3.00# compiz-manager
Checking for Xgl: not present.
Detected PCI ID for VGA:
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
Checking for non power of two support: present.
Checking for Composite extension: present.
Comparing resolution (1024x768) to maximum 3D texture size (4096): Passed.
Checking for nVidia: present.
Checking for FBConfig: present.
Checking for Xgl: not present.
Starting emerald

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)
Backend     : ini
Integration : true
Profile     : default

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)
/usr/bin/compiz (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 0

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)
/usr/bin/compiz (snow) - Info: Loaded Texture snowflake.png
/usr/bin/compiz (snow) - Info: Loaded Texture snowflake.png
/usr/bin/compiz (snow) - Info: Loaded Texture /root/puppy-reference/pixmaps/pupnews48.png
/usr/bin/compiz (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)


EDIT I have attached some popular emerald themes just install them by importing them with the emerald theme manager my favorite is the Real Blue Glass theme it doesn't glow too much and looks quite good IMO
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2007, 20:25    Post subject:  

Just posting to confirm that it works with an ATI Radeon Mobility 7500. I haven't had time to test how stable it is, though (Beryl would randomly crash on this machine in 2.17, no crashes with Wobbily yet).

That's the good news. The bad news is that it did not work with my (newer and supposedly better) Radeon 9550, at least not out of the box. I haven't had time to mess around and see what's wrong. It detected it correctly, but no Compiz joy. If I wasn't in the middle of finals I would try to figure it out, but I need to study (probably shouldn't even be browsing the forums, but I just can't resist).

Quick question: Is there a way to set Compiz-Fusion to scroll through desktops when you hold down the middle button in the same way that Beryl does? The only way I could find to switch desktops was to drag a window over the edge of the screen.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2007, 21:21    Post subject: Torrent for Wobbly now available!
Subject description: http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=4866
 

Wobbly now available by Bittorrent!
If you already have it, please seed.

Torrent for Wobbly NOP Experimental at Linuxtracker

also I've added info re Wobbly to the NOP page on the wiki, and a CoBlitzed download link, to (maybe) spare Caneri's server.

http://coblitz.codeen.org/www.puppylinux.ca/puppyfiles/custom/wNOP.iso

PS any screenshots?
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2007, 23:12    Post subject:  

sirduncan you can set your own key bindings in CCSM or you can just use the default of control+alt+button1 to move the cube
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2007, 08:28    Post subject:  

Brilliant, thanks for all the feedback guys!

Lobster
I had a look at that graphics.sfs and allthough I can't see exactly why it caused problems, I can see that it certainly overwrites the existing OpenGL library which would very likely prevent Compiz from working. Hopefully it is only the graphics.sfs that causes these problems, I have devx_301.sfs and KDE357.sfs on mine here no problem (although I am not running the exact same version of wNOP experimental). If you're interested in looking further into the graphics.sfs issue a pfind on those missing commands would be useful.

mark2
It's best to treat wNOP as a whole new version of puppy, therefore you will certainly need to boot with pfix=ram and on shutdown create its own unique pupsave file. The only other way wNOP would boot without using your existing pupsave files is if I renamed the pup_301.sfs as if it were a whole new version of puppy. I'm glad your wobbling though Smile

cb88
Great to see wNOP on youtube, it's like magic being able to see my script running on the other side of the ocean (I'm in the UK)

So just to summerise: You have 3 cards to test (1)Geforce MX 440 (2)Geforce 6200 (3)unspecified integrated intel? (1)&(2) setup okay but crash emerald occasionally, (3)won't setup. Are they all running from the same computer? I see from titanreign on wow's thread that graphic cards running "on top of" legacy intel cards might be problematic?

My current thinking is that
(a)I have not acknowledged the full spectrum of nVidia cards and their respective drivers. Following this post of gray's I assumed the 3 drivers supplied with wNOP would cover all nVidia cards. However gray does not mention GeForce 2 MX cards which I think are in fact different to Geforce 2000 series cards? Although the drivers do seem pretty compatible.
(b)Emerald crashing: I used to consistently get this from the Application Switcher Plugin and notice this too in your video. Since I disabled it I have much fewer crashes. Although I do now have a strange occasional bug that causes windows to dissapear (but not close) on View Desktop. Can the emerald crashes be consistently recreated using the Application Switcher? Or is there any other patterning you can notice? Simply disabling or removing Application Switcher from wNOP would be straightforward.
(c)Intel cards: I think here I am most interested in
Code:
lsmod

output. My current understanding of the Xorg puppy boot process is that initially modules have to be fetched from zdrv.sfs using the custom modprobe script and then Xorg does the actual loading itself during X intialisation. But I'm just not clear on all that bit yet. Perhaps trying a
Code:
modprobe i810

and restarting X will get wNOP going with your intel card?

Oh yeah. The
Code:
(emerald:8485): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)

is apparently nothing to worry about I get it too.
And the nvidia-xconfig command you mention
Code:
nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --allow-glx-with-composite --disable-glx-root-clipping --render-accel --composite --depth=24

is the exact same one run by the Compiz-Fusion Wizard in wNOP!


wNOP Inspector
I have uploaded a new script that will output loads of useful information for non-working wNOPs. It's on my first post of the thread.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2007, 09:44    Post subject:  

the problem is that the intel cards are getting detected and should not be....

the intel chip is actually deactivated so if you try to use then x crashes cause it is tring to use two GPUs and one is not even active....

if more than on card is detected then you should be able to select to enable disable them....

I have the Nvidia Geforce MX 400 that uses the 9xxx (not so legacy cards)3 driver and almost has shaders... It has "NSR"s basically non programable shaders and the proformance is pretty good for an old card.... runs fretsonfire and saubraten in windows...

cards that use the 7xxx (really old cards)driver may be incapable of running compiz but I haven't ran into one yet.... I think the Geforce 2 GTS uses the 7xxx driver

BTW lobster has teh MX 440 they are a little different it sould be a little faster...

I think that there is a problem here somewhere because emerald crashes much less when I installed it manually and the switchers don't cause problems

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2007, 12:52    Post subject:  

I downloaded and burned wNOP, then managed to get Compiz-Fusion working on my Intel 945GM laptop.

Xorg was running the i810 Xorg driver, but DRI didn't work because module i915 needed to be loaded *also* and that didn't happen automatically. Modprobing i915 didn't work either.

Here's how I got it working: I manually copied i915.ko from zdrv_301.sfs to the folder containing i810.ko, then did a depmod and restarted X -- and there was Compiz-Fusion! Very nice.

lsmod then showed:
Quote:
Module Size Used by
i915 23296 2
drm 79508 3 i915
...
intel_agp 24860 1
agpgart 34128 3 drm,intel_agp


and
Quote:
sh-3.00# glxinfo|grep -i dri
libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2
sh-3.00#

Note that 'DRI' is in uppercase here.

I noticed that Thunar works flakey - won't load folders properly unless I either open them full screen or minimize and open them again.

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2007, 13:01    Post subject:  

cb88 wrote:
sirduncan you can set your own key bindings in CCSM or you can just use the default of control+alt+button1 to move the cube


I guess I just hadn't seen the one for cube rotation. Now it's working just fine. Thanks, CB!

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 10:55    Post subject:  

great video cb88; I've added it to the NOP wiki page and the LinuxTracker page.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 11:57    Post subject:    

cb88 wrote:


BTW lobster has the MX 440 they are a little different it should be a little faster...



based on your video the speed difference is not evident.
I remember years ago getting a hardware add on that doubled the speed of my 6502 CPU
Yes it was faster
After about 4 days I noticed no increase in productivity and the initial wow it is twice as fast had gone . . .

The video is good. I hope you do some more, to train up and educate our newborns (infant pups) Cool

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 14:26    Post subject:    

Compiz now running on my desktop too.

Have a frugal install and up and running with wobbly windows.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Nov 2007, 16:18    Post subject:  

Running from the live CD at the moment, but this is deffinately getting a place on my HDD if it proves stable! Love it! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2007, 16:08    Post subject:  

pakt
That's gold!

BTW: You don't have to copy i915.so over from zrdv_301.sfs, a simple:
Code:

modprobe -n i915
modprobe i915

then restart X, will do the trick. The "-n" argument tells puppy to fetch the module but NOT load it -- Woohoo to puppy Smile

So now I'm wondering about the best way to fix this? I wish it were as easy as -- "IF Xorg chooses the i810 driver THEN load the i915 module"! I really need to know more about how Xorg matches a module/driver to the results of its card probing -- and so understand why Xorg didn't choose the right module in your case. Is it that Xorg simply chooses the most APPROPRIATE driver given the ones it CAN find and that on first boot i915 is hidden from Xorg?

On that thought, what if you were to boot a fresh pfix=ram wNOP straight to the command line (ie pfix=ram,nox) and type
Code:

modprobe -n i915
xorgwizard

Therefore making the i915 module available and letting Xorg load it if its needed. If that works then I think it would be a satisfactory fix.

As for the flakey Thunar, I had the exact same problem on my ATI. For an Intel card I reckon adding the following code to the "Device" Section of xorg.conf will do the trick:
Code:
Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"

(Which will of course be in wNOP2 Wink )

However, I found it had been fixed on my ATI card when I added this lot!:
Code:

Option     "backingstore" "true"
   Option     "EnablePageFlip" "true"
   Option     "SubPixelOrder" "none"
   Option     "AccelMethod" "XAA"
   Option     "RenderAccel" "true"
   Option     "AGPMode" "4"
   Option     "ColorTiling"   "on"
   Option     "DynamicClocks" "on"
   Option     "mtrr" "on"
   Option     "VideoOverlay" "on"
   Option     "OpenGLOverlay" "off"

   Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
   Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"

I don't actually know what most of them do, I probably only needed that one line too, but I think they're generic ATI recomendations anyway.
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I wish I could test this out on my intel 945GM but I think it is running into this bug, which is apparently solved by the xf86-video-intel driver (the latest and best) which puppy doesn't appear to have. I see that it is available from Slackware, though my instinct is that it won't be that compatible? Fingers crossed though! It might be good to get this driver going as it may solve BOTH our intel issues.

cb88
Does this new intel fix help your intel card?

I've gone and had another go with wNOP on my nVidia and its running stable. I tried very hard but could only manage one emerald crash and that was caused by the Apllication Switcher Plugin. So the best thing now would be to comapare the wNOP setup to your stable (non-wNOP) setup and see if there are any differences. Perhaps post the output of wNOPinspect from both setups and any other info you can think of. You could also try editing /etc/compizflag.txt to "no", restarting X and starting compiz-manager from Xfce autostart or terminal.

Everyone
Thankyou so much for your feedback.

So has anyone got this going on anything other than Intel, ATI and nVidia?

And just another reminder about posting the ouput of the wNOPinspect script if wNOP doesn't work for you.
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