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Storing files on the Puppy CD
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WiZard

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2005, 10:45    Post subject:  Storing files on the Puppy CD  

Here's what I want to do:

**have a standard Puppy bootable CD plus add a directory that contains additional files. The additional files are not part of Puppy are not loaded or stored in ram or in PUP001. I simply want to store them on the same CD and access them if I want them.

What I've been able to do:

**I created a muli-session CD with Puppy plus the added directory, but when it boots it is detected as a multi-session CD and forces the user to go through all the choices for a multi-session CD (not what I wanted).

What I need help with:

**How do I disable all the multi-session menus/choices and get the CD to simply boot like a plain Puppy CD (non-multi-session).

Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2005, 11:10    Post subject:  

When you boot a multisession Puppy for the first time, if you don't choose boot option 5 I believe it operates as a standard Puppy, saving to a pup001 file in an available partition on a hard drive when you shut down.

Then, since the CD was burned as a multisession CD, you can mount it in Puppy and use one of Puppy's CD burning clients to add new sessions, putting whatever you want in them.

These new files are visible to Puppy only after it mounts the CD, not when it boots.

I've done this with Ted Dog's DeVilDog (DVD) multisession Puppy, using TkDVD to add the new sessions to the DVD. The relevant thread is here.
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WiZard

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2005, 13:20    Post subject: Storing files on the Puppy CD  

Thanks for your reply Flash. What I want is to aviod the multi-session menus even on the first boot.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2005, 15:45    Post subject:  

The multisession option in the boot menu is hidden. You have to know to type "5" at the boot prompt.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2005, 16:52    Post subject: boot options  

The main script checks for added tracks in normal CD-R and will run mult-session anywho if it detects them. I found out the hard way that DVDs do not have tracks when used in DVDog. That is why option 5 is hardwired in my iso (actually 1/10 sec. to choice something else).
Therefore, CD puppy will automatically boot mult-session if any thing else is burned separtly
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2005, 17:07    Post subject:  

If you're feeling ambitious, you could crawl through the boot scripts and sniff out the one that detects multisession, then just comment it out and make a custom cd.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2005, 18:07    Post subject: how and where to edit  

find this line in the file etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit in the remaster area.
Code:
   GETDISKINFO="`disktype $ONECD 2>&1`"

put a '#' infront
Code:
 # GETDISKINFO="`disktype $ONECD 2>&1`"

the 5 option will still work if you wish to try mult-session enabled but It will not force you to.
I hope it will work for you. Rolling Eyes
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WiZard

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2005, 22:45    Post subject: Stroing extra files on Puppy CD  

aha, thanks Pizzasgood & Ted Dog. That looks like the answers I'm looking for, will let you know how it turns out.
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Oct 2005, 00:48    Post subject:  

After carefully studying this thread it appears that as usual I completely misunderstood the original post. Thanks, Ted and Pizza, for saving the day. Very Happy
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WiZard

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Oct 2005, 13:15    Post subject: Storing fiels on the Puppy CD  

YIPPEE, it worked, I have a standard Puppy 1.0.4 CD plus added subdirectory(s) burned using multi-session settings and the CD boots just like it was a plain old single session CD. Once booted, I can mount the CD using MUT and there are all my extra files. I created what will be my "Swiss Army Puppy", here's what it can do:

1. All the functions of a regular Puppy 1.0.4

Extra Files: programs, MP3, video clips
1. MP3 (several dozen) & videos let me demo Puppy Power or simply enjoy
some music without changing the CD.
2. Install Puppy to a harddrive that has only a MSDOS 3.2 or higher
DOS bootable partition.
3. Install Puppy to a harddrive that has W9x giving the user a multi-
boot system (no drive partitioning required).
4. Install Puppy to a harddrive that has W2000 or XP with a NTFS file system giving the user a multi-boot system (uses GRUB, no drive
partitioning required).
5. Install a standard PUP001 configuration file or choose a PUP001
with ICE windows manager, Abiword spellcheck, TightVNC, XWC filemanager, Midnight Commander CL filemanager, extra help
files, and simplified menus already installed.

The install functions are menu driven, so are easy to run.

Anyway, the possibilities are endless, may also add some .PUP files in
the extra directorys to give other installation options.
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Oct 2005, 15:48    Post subject:  

Exactly what program and settings did you use to burn the CD?
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Oct 2005, 17:23    Post subject:  

Doh! I can't believe I didn't think of this: Another way to do it is extract the iso, add the files, then remake the iso. Then the cd would only be burned once, and you wouldn't have to change config stuff. The advantage with the other way is that you could burn it as multisession, so you can add stuff later, but still use Puppy normally. But this way, you could use it as multisession and have the extra stuff too. So now we know two ways, for two situations. Smile
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WiZard

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Oct 2005, 10:15    Post subject: Storing files on the Puppy CD  

Pizza, I thought of that and tried it in Windows. Used ISOBUSTER to extract the boot image and copied all the other files from the Puppy CD. Then used Windows Nero to remake a bootable CD also adding in the new files. It burned ok but I always got a check sum error when I tried to boot the new CD. Tried it several times with same results. I've made many DOS/Windows bootable CD's with Nero, but it seeded to have a problem with LInux. Have you ever made bootabel LInux with Gcombust?
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Oct 2005, 11:37    Post subject: Re: Storing files on the Puppy CD  

WiZard wrote:
...Have you ever made bootabel LInux with Gcombust?

I think I remember making a Puppy live CD with Gcombust, from an iso I had downloaded in Windows to an NTFS partition. I couldn't get multisession Puppy to work from a CD no matter what burning program I tried. The new multisession DVD worked the first time I tried it though. (Burned with RecordNow in Windows. I haven't tried burning it with TkDVD in Puppy.)
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Oct 2005, 15:02    Post subject:  

I've only burned a normal iso from Windows. I have extracted, modified, and reburned isos in linux, though. I just put everything in an empy directory, run makeisofs on it, then burn as usual. I haven't actually tried adding extra, non-puppy stuff yet (next on my list, though), but I did add a file or two to add a splash screen when I made the first Pizzapup.

Oh, and I used Gcombust successfully until 1.0.5 with the burniso2cd script came out. Now I use that. I haven't tried having the burner program make the iso though. I always just did that by hand.

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